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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94760 on: October 25, 2017, 01:09:09 pm »
Brewster!!

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94761 on: October 25, 2017, 01:10:15 pm »
Brewster!!

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94762 on: October 25, 2017, 01:10:23 pm »
The kid is a natural goal scorer isn’t he?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94763 on: October 25, 2017, 01:12:05 pm »
He looks like a player this boy!

Natural finish. Against Brazil so we're not talking mugs either.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94764 on: October 25, 2017, 01:20:59 pm »
England timewasting from a corner to get to half time

Very strange, time was already up so a counterattack wouldn't have been allowed

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94765 on: October 25, 2017, 01:23:01 pm »
Watch Brewster pressing from the front, it is excellent. Very Firmino-esque. He is curving and pressing laterally which effectively cuts the pitch in half and controls the direction we want Brazil to play in. It also allows us to be compact and create underloads and press traps in the half of the pitch we are pressing Brazil to play into. That's very smart stuff from a kid.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94766 on: October 25, 2017, 01:23:35 pm »
Told you the boy is a talent.

Top talent in fact.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94767 on: October 25, 2017, 01:26:54 pm »
I literally have no idea what this means.

Off with your head.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94768 on: October 25, 2017, 01:37:35 pm »
So we have Solanke and a few years behind him we have Brewster.

I'll be thrown out this thread but, why not buy Aubameyang, who is 29. Rinse him for 3 years while we develop these boys?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94769 on: October 25, 2017, 01:38:16 pm »
I literally have no idea what this means.

Off with your head.

:D

Basically, if you run vertically at a player with the ball he can pass either side of you into midfield or lpay sideways to a full back or center back. It's ineffective.

If you curve your run (e.g. left to right as Brewster is) and have your midfielder pressing against theirs, then it means the defender has no option but to either pass into midfield (high interception risk) or pass wide to his full back. Given the risk of #1, #2 tends the only outcome. This means you cut the pitch in half as that press has forced the center back to turn and play to his left. If you then have a compact shape you can position yourselves almost entirely in that half of the pitch (similar to how we did vs Hoffenheim). This means they need to play through your shape with less players as they will have players spread out evenly on the pitch. So it will be 10 v 7 in your favour in the area of the pitch they are trying to play through. This also means from a counter attack perspective, you immediately have numerical advantage to play through them if you win the ball.

Their option then is to try to switch pass from left, where outnumbered, to the right where they likely have one or two free players. However these passes have lower success rates and any turnover here, especially as we would have Moreno & Mane there, will usually mean players with extremely high pace having a lot of space to run into at your defence. Effectively leaving them with only risky passing options and threats of dangerous counter attack whichever they chose. And given even the best players in the world have 90% pass success and give the ball away from time to time, you are almost guaranteed to give up a few dangerous counters per game - of not a lot more because pressure forces more mistakes and turnovers.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94770 on: October 25, 2017, 01:44:15 pm »
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Basically, if you run vertically at a player with the ball he can pass either side of you into midfield or lpay sideways to a full back or center back. It's ineffective.

If you curve your run (e.g. left to right as Brewster is) and have your midfielder pressing against theirs, then it means the defender has no option but to either pass into midfield (high interception risk) or pass wide to his full back. Given the risk of #1, #2 tends the only outcome. This means you cut the pitch in half as that press has forced the center back to turn and play to his left. If you then have a compact shape you can position yourselves almost entirely in that half of the pitch (similar to how we did vs Hoffenheim). This means they need to play through your shape with less players as they will have players spread out evenly on the pitch. So it will be 10 v 7 in your favour in the area of the pitch they are trying to play through. This also means from a counter attack perspective, you immediately have numerical advantage to play through them if you win the ball.

Their option then is to try to switch pass from left, where outnumbered, to the right where they likely have one or two free players. However these passes have lower success rates and any turnover here, especially as we would have Moreno & Mane there, will usually mean players with extremely high pace having a lot of space to run into at your defence. Effectively leaving them with only risky passing options and threats of dangerous counter attack whichever they chose. And given even the best players in the world have 90% pass success and give the ball away from time to time, you are almost guaranteed to give up a few dangerous counters per game - of not a lot more because pressure forces more mistakes and turnovers.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94771 on: October 25, 2017, 01:49:44 pm »
I tried to tell me missus this but she just doesn’t get it.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94772 on: October 25, 2017, 01:51:20 pm »
I tried to tell me missus this but she just doesn’t get it.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94773 on: October 25, 2017, 02:06:51 pm »
Hattrick. Through ball down the right side of the box, driven across the box and tapped in back post by Brewster. Fantastic postiioning again.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94774 on: October 25, 2017, 02:06:56 pm »
Hat-trick Brewster
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94775 on: October 25, 2017, 02:07:20 pm »
Brewster - another hattrick!
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94776 on: October 25, 2017, 02:08:23 pm »
Not bad is he

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94777 on: October 25, 2017, 02:10:47 pm »
Another hat-trick this boy is hot. Keep it up Brewster.  ;D
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94778 on: October 25, 2017, 02:10:57 pm »
just seen the celebration for the hattrick :D

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94779 on: October 25, 2017, 02:13:38 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94780 on: October 25, 2017, 02:17:43 pm »
Phil Foden - what a player
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94781 on: October 25, 2017, 02:18:43 pm »
Solanke and Brewster at 20 and 17 is encouraging for the future.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94782 on: October 25, 2017, 02:21:50 pm »
Brewster getting into all the right places to rack goals up.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94783 on: October 25, 2017, 02:21:53 pm »
What a proper talent. Wow.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94784 on: October 25, 2017, 02:23:04 pm »
Phil Foden - what a player

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94785 on: October 25, 2017, 02:29:47 pm »
Phil Foden - what a player
Rhian Brewster - what a player
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94786 on: October 25, 2017, 02:30:05 pm »
City isn't he?

Can see him leaving soon.

Isn't he a rare case of a City youngster getting 1st team exposure though?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94787 on: October 25, 2017, 02:31:29 pm »
Phil Foden - what a player
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94788 on: October 25, 2017, 02:36:41 pm »
This Rhian Brewster is ripping up the u17 world cup, anyone seen him play? 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94789 on: October 25, 2017, 02:36:50 pm »
Coaching is about repetition and drilling, don't forget ;)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94790 on: October 25, 2017, 02:41:22 pm »

The goals from the England vs Brazil U17 World Cup semi-final...

Brewster on 10 mins - https://streamable.com/plohn
Wesley for Brazil on 21 mins - https://streamable.com/g4md2
Brewster on 39 mins - https://streamable.com/75a3z
Brewster on 77 mins - https://streamable.com/j6705

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and Rhian's other goals scored in the previous U17 World Cup games:-

vs Mexico - https://streamable.com/acw8p
vs USA - https://streamable.com/fzfkh
vs USA - https://streamable.com/meyet
vs USA - https://streamable.com/9v0c6
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94791 on: October 25, 2017, 02:46:17 pm »
I haven't watched much of Brewster. What type of player is he? Is he like Rashford in that he has pace and skill? Or is he more like Kane in that he is more of a poacher?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94792 on: October 25, 2017, 03:00:03 pm »
he knows how to get in goal scoring positions it seems

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94793 on: October 25, 2017, 03:04:10 pm »
I haven't watched much of Brewster. What type of player is he? Is he like Rashford in that he has pace and skill? Or is he more like Kane in that he is more of a poacher?
He's quite unique in some way. When you play him as a striker he reminds me somewhat of Rush. A poacher with extremely high work rate and presses from the front, very intelligently too. But he is highly versatile and can play on either flank or as #10, and he looks a different player when he does, rather than say Ian Rush being shoehorned into a wing position, he plays like a wide player when he is in that position.

Which makes me think he could take the Henry, Griezmann or Lacazette path of being a poacher who starts as a pro as a winger - and then moves towards his best position and makes you wonder how they were ever thought of as a winger when finishing the way they do.

None of that is a comparison in terms of skill or ability by the way. Just play style.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94794 on: October 25, 2017, 03:23:12 pm »
He's quite unique in some way. When you play him as a striker he reminds me somewhat of Rush. A poacher with extremely high work rate and presses from the front, very intelligently too. But he is highly versatile and can play on either flank or as #10, and he looks a different player when he does, rather than say Ian Rush being shoehorned into a wing position, he plays like a wide player when he is in that position.

Which makes me think he could take the Henry, Griezmann or Lacazette path of being a poacher who starts as a pro as a winger - and then moves towards his best position and makes you wonder how they were ever thought of as a winger when finishing the way they do.

None of that is a comparison in terms of skill or ability by the way. Just play style.
Does Brewster have electric pace?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94795 on: October 25, 2017, 03:27:34 pm »
Does Brewster have electric pace?
He's fast, not Owen fast though.

Also he is excellent at making a yard to get shots of and drilling them low across the keeper in the bottom corner. Like the goals we conceded to Uth from Hoffenheim, for example. Also scores a very high number of rebound goals too.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94796 on: October 25, 2017, 03:33:29 pm »
Think this is the first game I saw of him v Ipswich U23 when he had just turned 16. It's literally a boy against men yet he still stands out. He has adapted his game a lot since then and is in the box a lot more compared to this.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94797 on: October 25, 2017, 03:47:27 pm »
Think this is the first game I saw of him v Ipswich U23 when he had just turned 16. It's literally a boy against men yet he still stands out. He has adapted his game a lot since then and is in the box a lot more compared to this.

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It's a good example of his pressing and outrageous work rate.

The guy in the background seems well stacked.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94798 on: October 25, 2017, 03:54:15 pm »
Seen some people online questioning whether he shoukd start after the group games as well  ;D


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94799 on: October 25, 2017, 03:56:50 pm »
The guy in the background seems well stacked.

Pfft That's not Brewsters arm!