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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94600 on: October 21, 2017, 12:16:04 pm »
Anyone going to the u23 game away at United Monday?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94601 on: October 21, 2017, 12:36:05 pm »
u18's winning 5-2 now...

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94602 on: October 21, 2017, 12:41:44 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94604 on: October 21, 2017, 12:53:17 pm »
Fantastic attacking display. Glatzel looked good on his debut should have had a hattrick.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94605 on: October 21, 2017, 01:04:07 pm »
“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94606 on: October 21, 2017, 01:17:02 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94607 on: October 21, 2017, 01:24:05 pm »
Jones, Lewis, Glatzel, Millar 2

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94608 on: October 21, 2017, 02:47:43 pm »
Well played the young redmen. Stevie has them firing. Coming off the back of the Maribor win, these boys are maturing under their coach who learns more about them and himself as a manager every day.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94609 on: October 21, 2017, 03:25:05 pm »
Brewster starts vs usa in the u17 world cup. Live on eurosport now.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94610 on: October 21, 2017, 03:57:18 pm »
Brewster starts vs usa in the u17 world cup.
And scores first two goals in the match. Brilliant.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94611 on: October 21, 2017, 05:22:39 pm »
Brewster with a hattrick.

Great performance from the lad.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94612 on: October 21, 2017, 05:27:01 pm »
Brewster with a hattrick.

Great performance from the lad.
And an assist.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94613 on: October 21, 2017, 05:27:45 pm »
Brilliant performance by Brewster looking forward to seeing the goals.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94614 on: October 21, 2017, 05:38:10 pm »
Brilliant performance by Brewster looking forward to seeing the goals.
Very well taken goals, third one was a pen which he won himself. His movement and finishing is top notch.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94615 on: October 21, 2017, 05:41:49 pm »
Very well taken goals, third one was a pen which he won himself. His movement and finishing is top notch.

I have high hopes for him, he really seems the real deal so far. I hope he continues to impress, hopefully this will fill him with huge confidence for when he returns to the under 23's. It could be a good season for him this.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94616 on: October 21, 2017, 08:01:24 pm »
Brilliant performance by Brewster looking forward to seeing the goals.

Top talent is Brewster.


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94618 on: October 21, 2017, 09:22:19 pm »
https://youtu.be/vfzsG5j_QOU

Nice one, cheers mate.

It would be great to see a striker come through from the academy system. I realise that we brought him in from Chelsea, but he's been with us since he was 15 so it feels like he counts, sort of. Is he purely a no. 9 or can he play in the wide forward positions too? I've seen very little of him but he seems to have played as a striker when I've watched him, but if he had the versatility that might improve his chances of seeing first team action.

I also like that he very slightly resembles, facially at least, both Mbappe and Rashford. Two of the best current teenagers in world footy, that has to be a good sign...

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94619 on: October 21, 2017, 09:23:55 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94620 on: October 21, 2017, 09:59:21 pm »
Top talent is Brewster.



Of all our youngsters I think he has the highest ceiling.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94621 on: October 21, 2017, 10:27:49 pm »
Of all our youngsters I think he has the highest ceiling.

Are you including Woodburn and Alexander-Arnold as youngsters there? That's high praise if so. I don't know much about Brewster to be honest, I've only watched him play the full 90 twice I think, but I'm liking what I'm hearing. It's a good sign that he seems to be a regular at international level in his age group too.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94622 on: October 21, 2017, 11:14:37 pm »
Brewster looks good, but if he's to make it here as a striker he either needs to improve his hold up player/play with his back to goal or up his goal scoring. At the moment he's around Sinclair level not Sterling/Woodburn, which is still good.


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94623 on: October 21, 2017, 11:33:14 pm »
CAN ANYONE SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO OBI EMEKA THE GIANT DEFENDER WE BOUGHT FOR u18

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94624 on: October 22, 2017, 07:01:51 am »
CAN ANYONE SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO OBI EMEKA THE GIANT DEFENDER WE BOUGHT FOR u18

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94625 on: October 22, 2017, 11:33:38 am »
Brewster looks good, but if he's to make it here as a striker he either needs to improve his hold up player/play with his back to goal or up his goal scoring. At the moment he's around Sinclair level not Sterling/Woodburn, which is still good.

Agree.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94626 on: October 22, 2017, 11:55:44 am »
Brewster looks good, but if he's to make it here as a striker he either needs to improve his hold up player/play with his back to goal or up his goal scoring. At the moment he's around Sinclair level not Sterling/Woodburn, which is still good.

I would agree but he is still very young, and there is plenty more to come from him.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94627 on: October 22, 2017, 11:59:08 am »
I would agree but he is still very young, and there is plenty more to come from him.
Of course, but Woodburn is in the same age group and is clearly ahead of him, sterling at his age was getting regular first team football. They're the top tier talents, it doesn't mean Brewster can't become a player for us, but he's not at that level where it'd be a shock if he didn't.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94628 on: October 23, 2017, 02:22:02 am »
We still don't promote players from the ages of 19-21 enough, it tends to be that if they aren't a 17 year old potential world beater like Sterling or possibly Woodburn, we tend to either leave them in the reserves to rot or send them out on pointless loans which don't materialise into them actually playing any meaningful minutes with Liverpool.

Example tonight Harry Winks, who only broke through into the Spurs team at 20, and at 17 wasn't a Marcus Edwards, Raheem Sterling Woodburn with all the hype go with it, neither did he go out on loan, the excuse many posters like to use as to why such and such player hasn't had first team football, 'he needs a loan' frequently the call of many.

Its safe to assume that if Winks was at our club, he would probably be either A. On a semi pointless loan or B. Playing in the reserves like a similar player of his profile in Brannagan who bizarrely despite two decent performances against PL opposition never graced the field for the first team again. The one time we actually did bring through a player over 18 from the reserves was probably the least likely example in Stewart, who despite not being anywhere near as good for the u23s as Wilson for example as been, got many chances to play in the first team and in turn establish a premier league career for himself.

We have the best u23 player in the country yet to make a first team start or Premier League apperance, despite him being probably more ready for first team football than his younger counterparts, if we're going to set some imaginary cutoff point in terms of age for players to break through, then will will be missing out on the likes of Winks and Kane coming through, Brannagan for example i feel has been mismanaged in a way a smaller club would mismanage its players imo.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94629 on: October 23, 2017, 03:53:47 pm »
The reserves this season has way too many players not being pushed on. Branagan, Wilson, grujic, Flanagan, ejaria, jones, ings.  None of them should be in the u23s. We need to get some Dutch club to send a bunch of them to.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94630 on: October 23, 2017, 04:00:35 pm »
What's happening with Markovic? Training with the youngsters until he's sold/loaned again in Jan?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94631 on: October 23, 2017, 04:23:07 pm »
What's happening with Markovic? Training with the youngsters until he's sold/loaned again in Jan?

I think they tried to sell him in the summer after a decent 6 month loan at Hull but couldn’t get a figure they were happy with.  Needs selling or at cut down price  just to move him on, for everyones benefit

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94632 on: October 23, 2017, 04:44:14 pm »
The reserves this season has way too many players not being pushed on. Branagan, Wilson, grujic, Flanagan, ejaria, jones, ings.  None of them should be in the u23s. We need to get some Dutch club to send a bunch of them to.

Not all the Club’s fault.  Wilson and Ejaria were both injured during the loan window so not able to leave on loan.  Jones was waiting a court charge so was probably unloanable.  I think I’ve read the in the Echo that plan is to sell in January.  The Echo also hinted that the Branagan situation is down to a contract dispute (as in he wouldn’t sign a new contract) so perhaps that’s why he’s been left in the U23s, although it doesn’t really explain why he disappeared off the radar last season.  Perhaps he didn’t push on as expected.  Certainly his loan in the second half of last season didn’t give him much playing time at all. 

I think they are trying to give Ings game time in the U23s because his opportunities to get his form back were always going to be limited in the firsts.  Sadly, because I think he is a real trier and was a revelation at Burnley, I don’t think he has recaptured form.  He’s not looked that great when dropping down and has barely scored. 

Flano has simply been overtaken by Trent and probably needs to look for a new permanent move to start again. 

In my view the biggest problem in all this is that they have removed the longer windows for youth loans.  This further stagnates what is already a problem for youth in this country not getting the opportunities they would elsewhere.  If they are injured during the window they are largely stuck.  If a newer first team signing turns out to be immediately up to speed they have less opportunity, etc.  if your team starts to underperform eg LFC then they are less likely to give youngsters some minutes because the atmosphere gets a little ugly.  Ok in EFC’s case they have but thy’ve Had a number of injuries.  Calvert Lewis, Gethin Jones etc should all benefit in the longer term, but owners doesn’t usually give managers the time to play with.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94633 on: October 23, 2017, 06:37:56 pm »
That's a strong team for the 23s against the mancs tonight.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94634 on: October 23, 2017, 06:42:03 pm »
That's a strong team for the 23s against the mancs tonight.

Grabara
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Going 442D with Wilson and Ings up front or wherever they fancy [emoji16]

Is this on LFC TV do you know?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94635 on: October 23, 2017, 06:43:48 pm »
Not all the Club’s fault.  Wilson and Ejaria were both injured during the loan window so not able to leave on loan.  Jones was waiting a court charge so was probably unloanable.  I think I’ve read the in the Echo that plan is to sell in January.  The Echo also hinted that the Branagan situation is down to a contract dispute (as in he wouldn’t sign a new contract) so perhaps that’s why he’s been left in the U23s, although it doesn’t really explain why he disappeared off the radar last season.  Perhaps he didn’t push on as expected.  Certainly his loan in the second half of last season didn’t give him much playing time at all. 

I think they are trying to give Ings game time in the U23s because his opportunities to get his form back were always going to be limited in the firsts.  Sadly, because I think he is a real trier and was a revelation at Burnley, I don’t think he has recaptured form.  He’s not looked that great when dropping down and has barely scored. 

Flano has simply been overtaken by Trent and probably needs to look for a new permanent move to start again. 

In my view the biggest problem in all this is that they have removed the longer windows for youth loans.  This further stagnates what is already a problem for youth in this country not getting the opportunities they would elsewhere.  If they are injured during the window they are largely stuck.  If a newer first team signing turns out to be immediately up to speed they have less opportunity, etc.  if your team starts to underperform eg LFC then they are less likely to give youngsters some minutes because the atmosphere gets a little ugly.  Ok in EFC’s case they have but thy’ve Had a number of injuries.  Calvert Lewis, Gethin Jones etc should all benefit in the longer term, but owners doesn’t usually give managers the time to play with.

The Echo were also hinting some time ago that Wilson would get a loan deal in January somewhere.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94636 on: October 23, 2017, 06:47:53 pm »
Is this on LFC TV do you know?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94637 on: October 23, 2017, 06:48:35 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94638 on: October 23, 2017, 06:55:57 pm »
Is this on LFC TV do you know?
Sorry Jill only just seen this, yes it is hun.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #94639 on: October 23, 2017, 06:57:17 pm »
Sorry Jill only just seen this, yes it is hun.

Thanks. Let's hope for a good win against the Mancs. Looking forward to seeing Woodburn play, its been a while.
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