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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102240 on: September 26, 2020, 11:22:21 AM »
City sitting so deep in this game they have about seven in the box when we are attacking. But the young Reds are pressing well.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102241 on: September 26, 2020, 11:38:01 AM »
City take the lead, after one solitary attack.  ::)
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102242 on: September 26, 2020, 11:38:58 AM »
0-1 Got done by a counter attack.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102243 on: September 26, 2020, 11:49:36 AM »
Not enoigh quality or variation in the final third from ourselves.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102244 on: September 26, 2020, 11:52:51 AM »
Not enoigh quality or variation in the final third from ourselves.

The final ball has let them down on occasions but City are just loading the box all the time. It's been quite cowardly by them considering their talent.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102245 on: September 26, 2020, 11:55:06 AM »
The final ball has let them down on occasions but City are just loading the box all the time. It's been quite cowardly by them considering their talent.
Don't really have a problem with it, it's an away game against one of the better teams they'll face. Up to us to be good enough to break them down

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102246 on: September 26, 2020, 11:56:48 AM »
Don't really have a problem with it, it's an away game against one of the better teams they'll face. Up to us to be good enough to break them down

I agree its up to us to get the breakthrough but I really thought this would be two teams going at it, it's what these games have tended to be like in the past. It hasn't lived up to the billing.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102247 on: September 26, 2020, 12:11:49 PM »
That was really bad from Koumetio.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102248 on: September 26, 2020, 12:14:07 PM »
That was really bad from Koumetio.

It was, the ball was going out why he felt the need to intervene only he knows. Well, that's something he will hopefully learn. I have to say todays performance has been underwhelming we're not playing the usual way. Stewart seems to be popping up more on the flanks and I would prefer to see him more in the middle. All a bit of a mess at the moment.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102249 on: September 26, 2020, 12:31:15 PM »
I swear I am watching a different game to the commentators. They keep going on about the great chances we made earlier on and didn't take, I don't think we had that many great chances. Our final ball all game has lacked any type of quality. It's been an all around messy performance with few standouts.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102250 on: September 26, 2020, 12:58:03 PM »
The boys are talented but in games like this where the opponent came to win, talent alone will not be enough. We lacked aggression and that little bit of snideness. City were like rapiers. Indeed they were defending in numbers but they were up for it. Their smaller size players were knocking our bigger players off the ball. Even Koumetio and Balagizi appeared “soft”.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102251 on: September 26, 2020, 01:22:11 PM »
It's nothing really about being 'soft' City, like Chelsea, have a huge amount of quality in their academies and should be winning most of the time. Us, United, Spurs, Arsenal etc.  just don't have that

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102252 on: September 26, 2020, 01:39:47 PM »
The boys are talented but in games like this where the opponent came to win, talent alone will not be enough. We lacked aggression and that little bit of snideness. City were like rapiers. Indeed they were defending in numbers but they were up for it. Their smaller size players were knocking our bigger players off the ball. Even Koumetio and Balagizi appeared “soft”.

Hopefully they will learn from this ...
Think it’s a bit silly to use the term soft to describe us here, particularly Balagizi. He was really the only ‘forward’ player sprinting back to support the defence, bodying up and winning the ball back on multiple occasions. He also had a few strong runs carrying the ball forward despite some physical challenges from city.

The real issue with us today for me was how static we were in the final third. We didn’t make runs in behind or shift their lines at all. We simply pinged it around the perimeter of their box with no real intent. With the amount of quality we have in this youth side I think we need to emphasize taking more risks and trying to create.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102253 on: September 26, 2020, 01:55:48 PM »
Think it’s a bit silly to use the term soft to describe us here, particularly Balagizi. He was really the only ‘forward’ player sprinting back to support the defence, bodying up and winning the ball back on multiple occasions. He also had a few strong runs carrying the ball forward despite some physical challenges from city.

The real issue with us today for me was how static we were in the final third. We didn’t make runs in behind or shift their lines at all. We simply pinged it around the perimeter of their box with no real intent. With the amount of quality we have in this youth side I think we need to emphasize taking more risks and trying to create.

I really hope this is not a change in direction with the new coach coming in, we just didn't look anything like ourselves today.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102254 on: September 26, 2020, 02:17:10 PM »
I really hope this is not a change in direction with the new coach coming in, we just didn't look anything like ourselves today.

Agreed, but I don’t think it’s a whole philosophical change imo. More a case perhaps of personnel today. No Harvey Blair means Stewart is really our only true ‘forward’. Woltman, Corness, Frauendorf are all more suited to creative midfield and would rather always have the ball at their feet. Blair was important for our attacking balance because of his pace, runs in behind and ability to beat his man.

You could see how much more threatening we were when young Isaac Mabaya came on. Injected some pace and directness that we sorely needed. Hope we see more of him despite his tender age, he’s clearly one of our most talented and physically developed prospects. Built a bit like Balagizi in that sense but more of a forward type.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102255 on: September 26, 2020, 04:38:27 PM »
I’ve watched this team all preseason and today just was not the same even to change the defence line  to include koumetio, from the first whistle nothing seemed to flow. Chambers seems to have good relationship with Jonas could see that clearly in the second half when he came on for koumetio. We was much better after the introduction of Mabaya flowed much better. Just hope it’s not a change of personnel   as I was looking forward to this u18s from what I had seen preseason. Balagizi needs to be a influence in these top games for me Stephenson was in and about more today onto the next game think it’s Blackburn unlucky lads we go again

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102256 on: September 27, 2020, 06:42:10 PM »
I’m really curious to see more of Frauendorf in the u18 side. I’m super intrigued by his speed and athleticism and he seems to be an adept presser. For me though he’s best in midfield (where he’s primarily played for Germany and Hoffenheim youth sides) rather than as a forward. He carries the ball well and has an eye for a pass, I think he could become a Naby type #8. You can see why we’re trying him as a wide forward With his pace and our lack of options there at the moment, but hopefully he gets a chance to show more from midfield soon.

I referenced our positional depth concerns yesterday, and Tim Jenkins (one of our u18 coaches) mentioned post match that we have several long term injuries right now to deal with. I would assume that refers to Hill, Blair and Morton for sure (might be missing someone else), which has a big impact on our selection. Thats why u16 lads like Mabaya and Ethan Ennis were on the bench yesterday. With Stewart as our only proper forward fit at the moment, I’d love to see a 4-2-3-1 with something like this:

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Corness-Musialowski-Frauendorf
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Woltman could also play in that #10 spot, Mabaya could play anywhere in that 3 also. I just think that kind of shape gives our current options the best chance to play in close to their best roles.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102257 on: September 28, 2020, 12:00:40 AM »
Was Tyler Morton injured at the weekend? Could have done with him against Man C.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102258 on: September 28, 2020, 01:30:19 PM »
I see Bobby Duncan is eating humble pie in public.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102259 on: September 28, 2020, 03:01:15 PM »
I see Bobby Duncan is eating humble pie in public.

Care to share the quotes? And precisely how he took those pies away from Luke Shaw?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102262 on: September 28, 2020, 04:05:05 PM »
Fair play to him really, far more experienced players have done similar and then lacked any sort of humility and regret when it’s gone south.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102263 on: September 28, 2020, 04:31:26 PM »
Well, at least we should get 20% of Duncan's transfer fee, whatever that turns out to be.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102264 on: September 28, 2020, 06:20:36 PM »
How is he joining Derby's u23 squad? He should be further advanced than that at this stage. He should be aiming to get lots of games at his age now.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102265 on: September 28, 2020, 06:53:14 PM »
How is he joining Derby's u23 squad? He should be further advanced than that at this stage. He should be aiming to get lots of games at his age now.

Probably about proving his humility, adapting to Derby’s game and possibly getting his fitness up to speed.  He may well start appearing off the bench for the firsts in a few weeks. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102266 on: September 28, 2020, 10:52:53 PM »
Is Hardy Injured?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102267 on: September 29, 2020, 02:51:30 PM »
Is Hardy Injured?

He has been, yes.  I think I heard them say it wouldn’t be for that much longer, but that might have just been about Paul Glatzel
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« Reply #102268 on: September 29, 2020, 02:59:16 PM »
He has been, yes.  I think I heard them say is would be for that much longer, but that might have just been about Paul Glatzel

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102269 on: September 29, 2020, 07:14:11 PM »
How is he joining Derby's u23 squad? He should be further advanced than that at this stage. He should be aiming to get lots of games at his age now.
He's just gone 19, he is only a kid what's the rush? Plenty of players were doing the same as him now at 19. Only 7 players his age or younger have played in the championship this season.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102270 on: September 29, 2020, 09:00:28 PM »
Kids lost 3-2 at Tranmere. The Echo text commentary suggesting that the home side benefitted from lots of ropey offside calls.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102271 on: October 2, 2020, 12:06:15 PM »
Quansah, Balagizi (u18), Elliott (u19) and R Williams (u20) getting England call ups.  They must have some excellent strikers to warrant not calling up Layton Stewart

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102272 on: October 3, 2020, 11:44:12 AM »
Our U18s are playing v Blackburn away right now.  Ojrzynski, Bradley, Quansah, Jonas, Chambers, Corness, Frauendorf, Mabaya, Balagizi, Woltman, Stewart.  0-0 nearing half time

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102273 on: October 3, 2020, 11:48:01 AM »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102274 on: October 3, 2020, 11:51:34 AM »
Disappointing they are not covering the game.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102275 on: October 3, 2020, 12:25:09 PM »
Another Stewart hatrick.   ;D. A pen and a lob volley. 

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« Reply #102276 on: October 3, 2020, 12:34:29 PM »
Not seen anything of Stewart but by the sounds of his recent performances he should be getting time for the 23s.
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« Reply #102277 on: October 3, 2020, 12:37:46 PM »
Another Stewart hatrick.   ;D. A pen and a lob volley.

The lad’s on fire. 😀
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102278 on: October 3, 2020, 12:38:01 PM »
Not seen anything of Stewart but by the sounds of his recent performances he should be getting time for the 23s.
The u23s have a few who need the game time/exposure so can understand holding him back for now. Shame for him and the rest of the u19s that the Youth League format has changed this year as 2 games vs ajax would have been a real test

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102279 on: October 3, 2020, 12:39:14 PM »
Not seen anything of Stewart but by the sounds of his recent performances he should be getting time for the 23s.

He is one of my favs developing all the time. It will be interesting to see if he can make the step up this season.
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