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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102160 on: September 20, 2020, 06:40:32 PM »
See Kloppo mentioned Billy K carrying a knock in the context of first team selection today

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102161 on: September 20, 2020, 08:00:00 PM »
I've seen next to nothing of Youth players. Has Stewart got that continual involvement in the game that Klopp feels is currently missing from Brewster?

No, but that’s exactly the type of forward that Glatzel is

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102162 on: September 21, 2020, 01:44:39 PM »
No, but that’s exactly the type of forward that Glatzel is

Totally agree with you, but speaking of Glatzel, where is he? Hasn't played for the U23's in a while. Injured again?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102163 on: September 21, 2020, 06:08:43 PM »
we should get Duncan back - he's unhappy at Fiorentina. Hates Jon Flanagan.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102164 on: September 21, 2020, 06:11:17 PM »
Can anyone update me on the youngsters who`s coming up? Anyone who might make it? I see Layton Stewart being one mentioned. How good is he?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102165 on: September 21, 2020, 06:24:06 PM »
we should get Duncan back - he's unhappy at Fiorentina. Hates Jon Flanagan.

Looks like he's on his way to Derby

Reckon he regrets acting like an idiot yet?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102166 on: September 21, 2020, 06:28:52 PM »
Looks like he's on his way to Derby

Reckon he regrets acting like an idiot yet?
Probably not as he was right to leave us, going to a side like Derby is where he should have gone once he decided to leave City.

Can anyone update me on the youngsters who`s coming up? Anyone who might make it? I see Layton Stewart being one mentioned. How good is he?
I don't think there's anyone as good as Curtis Jones which I guess is the standard at the moment for an acadmey player to even get cloae to making it at our current level. Stewart, Balagizi and Morton probably the best players for the u18s based on performances

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102167 on: September 21, 2020, 10:11:43 PM »
Totally agree with you, but speaking of Glatzel, where is he? Hasn't played for the U23's in a while. Injured again?

Yes, they mentioned that when the U23s were playing last Friday evening.  His and Joe Hardy with niggles. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102168 on: September 21, 2020, 10:16:12 PM »
Probably not as he was right to leave us, going to a side like Derby is where he should have gone once he decided to leave City.
I don't think there's anyone as good as Curtis Jones which I guess is the standard at the moment for an acadmey player to even get cloae to making it at our current level. Stewart, Balagizi and Morton probably the best players for the u18s based on performances

Them there are Tom Hill, midfield and James Norris, who are both still U18s but the latter will almost certainly be playing up in the U23s when over his injury.  Ditto Hill although there there are fewer berths in midfield in in the U23s with cCain and Clarkson playing regularly plus eg Herbie Kane who is unlikely to get a loan move with a longer term injury. 

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102169 on: September 21, 2020, 10:41:16 PM »
Yeah completely forgot about them  ;D Think Hill will get u23 minutes once loans are sorted for Woodburn and Millar

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102170 on: September 22, 2020, 11:58:09 AM »
Wigan in the EFL Trophy tonight and Lincoln in the League Cup on Thursday. Line-up tonight might give us a clue around who might feature in the League Cup.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102171 on: September 22, 2020, 12:56:38 PM »
Neil Jones is reporting that Tom Hill has had surgery on his ACL, likely out for the majority of the season.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102172 on: September 22, 2020, 01:07:52 PM »
Seems like our youngsters have pretty bad luck recently with serious injuries at bad times. You had Brewster, Glatzel, now Hill. It’s a shame as I was really excited about Hill, looked a great talent. Hopefully he doesn’t lose anything when he comes back but I think Brewster, for example, hasn’t got the pace he did have now.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102173 on: September 22, 2020, 01:14:28 PM »
Neil Jones is reporting that Tom Hill has had surgery on his ACL, likely out for the majority of the season.

That is really disappointing news for the lad, I was expecting a really exciting season from him as well.  :(
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102174 on: September 22, 2020, 06:39:58 PM »
Rhys Williams is training at Melwood rather than playing for the under-21s tonight, seems there’s a chance that he could be in the squad on Thursday.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102175 on: September 22, 2020, 07:48:25 PM »
Leading 1-0 at half time. Clarkson with the goal.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102176 on: September 22, 2020, 08:20:25 PM »
Thought this might’ve been on LFCTV. 2-1 down now

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102177 on: September 22, 2020, 08:49:39 PM »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102178 on: September 22, 2020, 08:53:20 PM »
Wigan in the EFL Trophy tonight and Lincoln in the League Cup on Thursday. Line-up tonight might give us a clue around who might feature in the League Cup.

What's the point in this competition for under 23 teams when it always coincides with the League Cup or international breaks?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102179 on: September 22, 2020, 09:08:50 PM »
What's the point in this competition for under 23 teams when it always coincides with the League Cup or international breaks?

Valuable experience I would suggest, for those not playing in the league cup, not as if the result matters but I bet these kids learnt alot from todays game no matter the result.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102180 on: September 22, 2020, 09:16:09 PM »
Thought this might’ve been on LFCTV. 2-1 down now

It’s on LFC TV tomorrow. Sounds like Wigan TV has the rights.

6-1 was the final score. I’m not sure how much benefit the kids would get from a drubbing like that.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102181 on: September 22, 2020, 09:23:12 PM »


6-1 was the final score. I’m not sure how much benefit the kids would get from a drubbing like that.
Playing against people who are better than you, is the best way to develop. Lets be honest, its really unlikely that anyone who played today, will play for us...in the PL

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102182 on: September 22, 2020, 09:37:44 PM »
Playing against people who are better than you, is the best way to develop. Lets be honest, its really unlikely that anyone who played today, will play for us...in the PL
Woodburn had already played for us in the Premier League and Clarkson and Cain have a good chance.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102183 on: September 22, 2020, 10:01:29 PM »
Playing against people who are better than you, is the best way to develop. Lets be honest, its really unlikely that anyone who played today, will play for us...in the PL

I’d imagine there’s 4/5 who we’d hope will actually 
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102184 on: September 22, 2020, 10:33:35 PM »
I’d imagine there’s 4/5 who we’d hope will actually 
Hope, for sure. But the odds of them being regular first teamers, is not great.

A game like tonight was good for them, though. IMO

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102185 on: September 22, 2020, 11:23:47 PM »
I’d imagine there’s 4/5 who we’d hope will actually 

Of the 10 starting outfielders tonight, it would be a huge (if pleasant) surprise if they ever managed a dozen LFC premier league starts between them. The chances are that the final total will be one - and that’s the one that Ben Woodburn earned nearly three and a half years ago.

I’m not being unkind to them, they’re just the probabilities. Especially when there are other teenagers like Jones, Neco Williams, VDB and Elliott ahead of them in the pecking order.

Balagizi, who came off the bench tonight, has a reasonable chance of defeating the odds and establishing a substantial LFC career, as do the likes of Morton and Stewart, all assuming they continue to develop and avoid the sort of serious injuries that have affected Paul Glatzel.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102186 on: September 23, 2020, 12:33:49 AM »
I'm guessing this is the place to ask this question, is it worth it to get LFCtv?  Do they show enough of the U18/U23 games for it to be worthwhile or are there a lot of games that don't get shown?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102187 on: September 23, 2020, 07:32:15 AM »
They show the games at weekends sometimes and have highlights on. Also good for daily news show and pre and post match shows when first team plays.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102188 on: September 23, 2020, 07:49:00 AM »
They show the games at weekends sometimes and have highlights on. Also good for daily news show and pre and post match shows when first team plays.
Lfctvgo also get those games and other stuff on demand with the added bonus of being able to have live commentary on if I'm the car or at work.

I watched most of the u18s game last Saturday at work

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102189 on: September 23, 2020, 09:35:57 AM »
Of the 10 starting outfielders tonight, it would be a huge (if pleasant) surprise if they ever managed a dozen LFC premier league starts between them.

Dunno about that, Leighton Clarkson is pretty highly rated.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102190 on: September 23, 2020, 01:39:26 PM »
Of the 10 starting outfielders tonight, it would be a huge (if pleasant) surprise if they ever managed a dozen LFC premier league starts between them. The chances are that the final total will be one - and that’s the one that Ben Woodburn earned nearly three and a half years ago.

I’m not being unkind to them, they’re just the probabilities. Especially when there are other teenagers like Jones, Neco Williams, VDB and Elliott ahead of them in the pecking order.

Balagizi, who came off the bench tonight, has a reasonable chance of defeating the odds and establishing a substantial LFC career, as do the likes of Morton and Stewart, all assuming they continue to develop and avoid the sort of serious injuries that have affected Paul Glatzel.

I like it when people argue against their own propositions - it saves time for others ;-)

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102191 on: September 23, 2020, 10:40:02 PM »
I like it when people argue against their own propositions - it saves time for others ;-)

???

The comment was made that 4/5 of the lads who played against Wigan might have a first team future at LFC.

I think that’s very unlikely of the 10 starting outfield players (keepers being something of a special case and harder to predict). The three players I mentioned from the youth setup that I think are well placed to have an LFC career either didn’t feature against Wigan (Morton, Stewart) or only played a few minutes (Balagizi). There’s no contradiction. There are teenagers with a shot at our first team but they’re either already part of that set-up (Jones, Koumetio, N Williams, Elliott, VDB) or else they’re in the younger cohort like the three just mentioned, and others.

Of the starters v Wigan, Clarkson and Cain maybe have most about them but, for all their technical qualities, almost certainly missing the x-factor that’s going to get them into Jürgen’s squad of world-beaters.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102192 on: September 23, 2020, 11:38:41 PM »
???

The comment was made that 4/5 of the lads who played against Wigan might have a first team future at LFC.

I think that’s very unlikely of the 10 starting outfield players (keepers being something of a special case and harder to predict). The three players I mentioned from the youth setup that I think are well placed to have an LFC career either didn’t feature against Wigan (Morton, Stewart) or only played a few minutes (Balagizi). There’s no contradiction. There are teenagers with a shot at our first team but they’re either already part of that set-up (Jones, Koumetio, N Williams, Elliott, VDB) or else they’re in the younger cohort like the three just mentioned, and others.

Of the starters v Wigan, Clarkson and Cain maybe have most about them but, for all their technical qualities, almost certainly missing the x-factor that’s going to get them into Jürgen’s squad of world-beaters.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102193 on: September 24, 2020, 06:53:31 PM »
Rhys starts ahead of Sept.  Wow.  Always thought he was quite highly rated but he stopped being spoken about much having gone out on loan to Kidderminster and then Koumetio during pre-season.  I guess Koumetio is still carrying a knock

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102194 on: September 24, 2020, 06:54:22 PM »
Rhys starts ahead of Sept.  Wow.  Always thought he was quite highly rated but he stopped being spoken about much having gone out on loan to Kidderminster and then Koumetio during pre-season.  I guess Koumetio is still carrying a knock

Kind of a shame since it is september.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102195 on: September 24, 2020, 09:54:32 PM »
Neco Williams is shite you know. Think we should have kept Hoever

It’s the lack of pace and the terrible first touch that will stop him being an option for us in prem .
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102196 on: September 24, 2020, 10:07:54 PM »
Neco Williams is shite you know. Think we should have kept Hoever

It’s the lack of pace and the terrible first touch that will stop him being an option for us in prem .

You guys might want to go back to the GOT thread. Thanks.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102197 on: September 24, 2020, 11:26:13 PM »
You guys might want to go back to the GOT thread. Thanks.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102198 on: September 25, 2020, 06:22:53 PM »
U23s are playing Man U tonight. It's on LFCTV shortly.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #102199 on: September 25, 2020, 06:33:56 PM »
U23s are playing Man U tonight. It's on LFCTV shortly.

Well they haven’t frozen out Larouci completely then.  I wonder how match fit he is