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Who will win the World Championships

Ronnie
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Selby
32 (25.4%)
Murphy
4 (3.2%)
Robertson
27 (21.4%)
Allen
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10600 on: November 24, 2021, 10:49:42 am »
I've never liked Murphy, even on first sight. Certainly an issue on my part but he has given me lots of reason to confirm my dislike.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10601 on: November 24, 2021, 10:57:00 am »
Murphy looks like a Tory and sounds like a Tory.
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10602 on: November 24, 2021, 11:07:19 am »
Murphy getting knocked out is always fun, he's always been dislikable and those bitter comments are fairly unsurprising unfortunately.

Just saw that and by chance saw about what Murphy did in 2019 which I forgot about. 2019 he tried qualifying for the Open championship in Portrush. As an amateur to take the spot off a pro. He actually said:

"It is all a bit tongue in cheek and a bit of a laugh,"

"The one thing I do have going for me is that I already have a full-time job. Golf isn't my livelihood. Relative to the other players I will be playing against, it doesn't really matter to me if I win or lose."

His comments about the Amateur were almost the same. You couldn’t make it up.

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« Reply #10603 on: November 24, 2021, 11:22:46 am »
Always quite liked Murphy but fuck me he’s a bad looser there.

On another note, I had no idea the tournament had even started, BBC usually start advertising a week or so before.
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10604 on: November 24, 2021, 11:25:45 am »
Always quite liked Murphy but fuck me he’s a bad looser there.

On another note, I had no idea the tournament had even started, BBC usually start advertising a week or so before.

For someone who has openly said he never supports English sportsmen....you chose him as the one you will? :D

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10605 on: November 24, 2021, 11:26:37 am »
Always quite liked Murphy but fuck me he’s a bad looser there.

On another note, I had no idea the tournament had even started, BBC usually start advertising a week or so before.

Well you won't do, because so many nobodies are involved the tournament is almost as long as the World Championships these days. 128 entrants so they've been playing for about a week before the BBC pick up coverage on Saturday.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10606 on: November 24, 2021, 12:07:33 pm »
That's got to be one of the most pathetic things Ive ever heard.

A quick check shows he's won over 4 million in his career.
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« Reply #10607 on: November 24, 2021, 12:09:08 pm »
besides, si did him a favour by taking some food off his table

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10608 on: November 24, 2021, 12:21:40 pm »
Always disliked Murphy and yet at the same time never been able to properly explain why. Guess I can now.

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« Reply #10609 on: November 24, 2021, 01:41:58 pm »
Haha, what a massive hypocrite.
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10610 on: November 24, 2021, 01:53:00 pm »
For someone who has openly said he never supports English sportsmen....you chose him as the one you will? :D

No accounting for taste I guess.

When it comes to Murphy, I have no particular love of him but just think Maguire was the bigger twat for the fat comments he made about Murphy.

I don’t think I have really supported a snooker player since Jimmy White (yes he’s English, but he’s Jimmy so he gets a pass from me).
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« Reply #10611 on: November 24, 2021, 02:03:26 pm »
Well you won't do, because so many nobodies are involved the tournament is almost as long as the World Championships these days. 128 entrants so they've been playing for about a week before the BBC pick up coverage on Saturday.

Ok that makes some sense as I was annoyed with myself for thinking id missed 4 days of snooker.
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10612 on: November 24, 2021, 03:24:20 pm »
Dude's a prick, has been for years.
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« Reply #10613 on: November 24, 2021, 03:38:04 pm »
Came on to share the news article, but can see it's been posted already.

Murphy looks like a Tory and sounds like a Tory.

Exactly this.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10614 on: November 24, 2021, 04:13:56 pm »
From his Wikipedia page:

Murphy's wife filed for divorce in 2009 on the grounds of infidelity after The People newspaper published an exposé revealing he had spent the night with an escort girl he had met at a religious youth group


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« Reply #10615 on: November 24, 2021, 04:39:42 pm »
From his Wikipedia page:

Murphy's wife filed for divorce in 2009 on the grounds of infidelity after The People newspaper published an exposé revealing he had spent the night with an escort girl he had met at a religious youth group


What a place to pick up a brass!

That old chestnut.

Suspect if we replace the word 'escort' with 'fat' and 'religious youth' with 'fat', we are probably closer to the truth. Not that there's anything wrong with a bit of 'fat'.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10616 on: November 24, 2021, 10:03:39 pm »
Seems like Murphy has a lot of allies and he was just the one that dared to say it first. All top players too; 3 of the best to ever do it have backed him up and I suspect O'Sullivan would agree if he was asked.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10617 on: November 24, 2021, 10:13:36 pm »
Murphy getting knocked out is always fun, he's always been dislikable and those bitter comments are fairly unsurprising unfortunately.

What a hypocrite. Hope someone brings that up when they next interview him.

Heard him on the radio earlier Hazell with his bellend mate Andy Goldstein trying to justify what he was saying. They did bring up the Golf thing, albeit a big gingerly. It was an awful interview though and just made things worse. Came across really really bad. He started off by saying he wanted to add context about the story saying how he was in pain after every shot and could barely stand up. Then made some bizarre remark that Golf is different because the clue is in the name, the Open. So they asked him about Snooker opens.........not having it. What kind of context is that ? Then went on about how there was no pressure on the ameteur.
No pressure ?  Them lads could get absolutely rinsed and are not making hundreds of thousands from the sport.  I couldn't really understand before why everyone seemed to dislike him, I do now. He's an elitist prick that fella.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10618 on: November 24, 2021, 10:26:58 pm »
Seems like Murphy has a lot of allies and he was just the one that dared to say it first. All top players too; 3 of the best to ever do it have backed him up and I suspect O'Sullivan would agree if he was asked.

Not sure what he would say, he was very complimentary about the qualifier he beat tonight but he’s also complained about the quality of some of the lower ranked players on the tour, ‘I’d have to lose an arm and a leg to fall out of the top 32’ or something like that he said not that long ago, and that wasn’t him being big headed but more how poor the tour as a whole is.
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« Reply #10619 on: November 24, 2021, 10:35:58 pm »
Heard him on the radio earlier Hazell with his bellend mate Andy Goldstein trying to justify what he was saying. They did bring up the Golf thing, albeit a big gingerly. It was an awful interview though and just made things worse. Came across really really bad. He started off by saying he wanted to add context about the story saying how he was in pain after every shot and could barely stand up. Then made some bizarre remark that Golf is different because the clue is in the name, the Open. So they asked him about Snooker opens.........not having it. What kind of context is that ? Then went on about how there was no pressure on the ameteur.
No pressure ?  Them lads could get absolutely rinsed and are not making hundreds of thousands from the sport.  I couldn't really understand before why everyone seemed to dislike him, I do now. He's an elitist prick that fella.

Shaun Murphy may well be an elitist prick, however he's been supported in what he's said by Neil Robertson, Mark Williams and Mark Selby. Massive hitters within snooker, so they deserve as more ire as he's getting for it. Murphy just stuck his head above the parapet before they did. He's clearly hit on something that rankles the top players.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10620 on: November 24, 2021, 11:03:48 pm »
Shaun Murphy may well be an elitist prick, however he's been supported in what he's said by Neil Robertson, Mark Williams and Mark Selby. Massive hitters within snooker, so they deserve as more ire as he's getting for it. Murphy just stuck his head above the parapet before they did. He's clearly hit on something that rankles the top players.

I just heard the story his evening really mate I haven't been following too much Snooker news lately. What is it though that they have a problem with?  Is it because the Ameteurs are getting their chance to play instead of other Pro's or because they are potentially taking prize money away from them ?  Or both. And I also wonder, were any of these lads ameteurs competing in big tournaments to cut their teeth. I don't get it. Murphy says Golf Opens are different because they are Opens...but this was the UK Open.
He also said (and Im saying he but if he was speaking on behalf a load of them) that the lad had no pressures or worries. I don't agree with that, he's trying to get into the pro circuit and he's probably not earning while doing so, so he's arguably under more pressure than the likes of Murphy

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10621 on: November 24, 2021, 11:20:06 pm »
Its worth remembering that taking food off Murphys table is probably the worst thing you can do to him. No wonder he's annoyed.

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10622 on: November 25, 2021, 02:15:03 pm »
Is the UK not on the BBC?

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10623 on: November 25, 2021, 02:23:23 pm »
Is the UK not on the BBC?

It is, but the BBC have never covered the first round of the UK championships, BBC coverage starts on Saturday.

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« Reply #10624 on: November 25, 2021, 02:30:38 pm »
pretty poor by the bbc not to even bother with it on the redbutton or something

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« Reply #10625 on: November 25, 2021, 02:38:13 pm »
UK Snooker Championship 2021: Mark Selby and Mark Williams 'agree' with Shaun Murphy

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Former world champions Mark Selby and Mark Williams agree with and "stand by" Shaun Murphy's criticism of amateurs playing in professional events.

Murphy's comments came after his shock 6-5 UK Championship loss to China's Si Jiahui, who was competing as an amateur top-up in the 128-man field in York.

The Englishman was criticised on social media for his opinions.

However, four-time world champion Selby told BBC Sport: "I think a lot of players agree with him."

The world number one added: "Because he [Shaun Murphy] said it after he lost, people probably think it is sour grapes and he wouldn't have said it if he had won - but I totally stand by everything he said.

"There's a reason there is a Q School to try to get on [the professional tour], and if you don't get on, you should have to wait another year and play in the amateur events."

Selby progressed safely through the UK Championship first round with a 6-2 victory against Ross Muir that included breaks of 67, 93 and 95.

Williams, 46, who has won three world titles in a glittering career since turning professional in 1992, echoed those comments and suggested the current system - which was robustly defended in a statement by the World Snooker Tour - was not fit for purpose.

"I have been saying it for years," Williams added after making two century breaks as he defeated China's Lei Peifan 6-3.

"It is a 128 [man] tour and we never get 128 entries. I think it should be smaller, definitely. I think if you make it on to the main tour, you should be guaranteed a living. The only way you can do that is by cutting it down.

"Where is the development? There are not many UK youngsters coming along because they are playing Ronnie O'Sullivan, John Higgins and Judd Trump in the first round of tournaments. How are you going to progress with a draw like that?

"I texted [Jason] Ferguson [chairman of snooker's governing body] the other day saying, 'if you are going to have top-ups then stop the top-ups having every tournament'. How is that fair? There is no pressure and they are free rolling."

This season, there are only 122 professional players on the World Snooker Tour, mainly because a number of the amateur tournaments which offer tour cards as prizes were not played as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

This means the best amateurs, ranked by virtue of their performances at Q School - in which Si finished fifth - are effectively guaranteed a place in 128-strong tournaments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/59407192

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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10626 on: November 25, 2021, 02:46:26 pm »
williams has been going on about the size of "the tour" for some time.

and I see roberton's hair is starting to go a little sheep-ish at the back. no excuse now either, get to the barbers mate.

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« Reply #10627 on: November 25, 2021, 03:59:56 pm »
Didn’t Barry Hearn get rid of prize money for first round losers? (Checked and only four tournaments - Grand Prix, Worlds, Tour and player champs - have prize money for first round exits.) I think that’s harsh and could put off a lot of players turning professional. Why pay to travel to a tournament while potentially being out of pocket? I’m sure most sports pay all professional participants in an event. 
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« Reply #10628 on: November 25, 2021, 04:04:34 pm »
I think the idea is to stop players just coasting along for the time they're on the tour. not saying I agree with it but I think that's the idea behind it.

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« Reply #10629 on: November 25, 2021, 04:31:46 pm »
Is the UK not on the BBC?

The first round in on Eurosport, BBC start on Saturday.
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« Reply #10630 on: November 25, 2021, 05:16:53 pm »
Shaun Murphy may well be an elitist prick, however he's been supported in what he's said by Neil Robertson, Mark Williams and Mark Selby. Massive hitters within snooker, so they deserve as more ire as he's getting for it. Murphy just stuck his head above the parapet before they did. He's clearly hit on something that rankles the top players.

Isn’t that just like us, City, Chelsea, Barca etc wanting to start a super league though?

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« Reply #10631 on: November 25, 2021, 05:23:04 pm »
robertson getting beaten by not rick astley

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« Reply #10632 on: November 25, 2021, 05:39:13 pm »
Isn’t that just like us, City, Chelsea, Barca etc wanting to start a super league though?

Don’t think so, that was a permanently closed shop. Becoming a professional snooker player isn’t, amateurs can go through the Cue School thing to become a professional.
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10633 on: November 25, 2021, 10:49:06 pm »
Robertson knocked out by an amateur. Good. Maybe he can go cry into the same trough as Murphy.

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« Reply #10634 on: November 25, 2021, 11:56:19 pm »
If a professional gets beaten by an amateur then they are not as good as they think they are and probably deserve to be paid less.


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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10635 on: November 26, 2021, 12:40:29 am »
At first glance it appears that Murphy is a sore loser but it is a bit more nuanced than that. In effect certain amateurs are getting wild cards to every tournament. That is completely different to trying to qualify for the Open which everyone is entitled to do.

I can't stand Murphy who reminds me of a Harry Enfield character but he has a point. It isn't the big hitters who are being hit by losing prize money, it is much more about the pros further down the food chain. 

The key to making it as a snooker player is about getting in the top 32 and especially the top 16 so you get better draws and can rack up ranking points. It simply isn't fair too miss out on those ranking points because you draw an amateur who simply isn't playing under the same pressure as a pro. 
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Re: The Snooker thread
« Reply #10636 on: Yesterday at 08:35:54 pm »
Selby 4-0 down in the best of 11.
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« Reply #10637 on: Yesterday at 08:57:44 pm »
He'll slow the game down, taking 27 minutes to take a shot and eventually bore the opponent to a win.

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« Reply #10638 on: Yesterday at 09:00:39 pm »
Should be 5-0 soon. Have to say Selby is probably my least favourite player, not every player is blessed or able to player like O’Sullivan but he literally sucks the joy out of the game.
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« Reply #10639 on: Yesterday at 10:08:34 pm »
And he’s out to a fluke on a black ball fight. Shame.
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