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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #120 on: October 15, 2007, 01:39:58 PM »
I don't do BT, I use Cable broadband - the proper stuff!! None of your coppercablecontentionratiobollocks for me - no sirree!! Get exactly what I pay for 99% of the time.
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #121 on: October 15, 2007, 01:42:40 PM »
3 things. Firstly as Slick_Beef points out you need to be the only one using it to get an accurate reading.
Secondly, Upload speed is usually about an 8th of your download speed.
Thirdly, and I know you didn't say this but worth pointing out anyway, these are speeds measured in Megabits not Megabytes - that's eight times smaller than a Megabyte. To put it into context, a 1 Megabyte is 1 million characters of text, a  Megabit is 125,000 (although Megabit is usually used as a measurement of speed as in Megabits per second).

Basically 8Mbps (download) connection is likely to only have 1Mbps upload speed associated with it, that's not including contention with others doing the same who are sharing the same kit at the your local exchange which will bring it down, also take into account others sharing the same connection in the office who are using it and that's probably not too bad.

Patronising? Who? Me?

Yeah, course I am mate . . .  :P

Well thanks for being patronising.

I only do this for a living you know :)

I did a speed test after hours of course, and I've concluded this must be contention.

When I tested this on a sunday , i got completely different figures.


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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #122 on: October 15, 2007, 01:43:11 PM »
If anything cable suffers from contention more than ADSL.

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #123 on: October 15, 2007, 01:44:36 PM »
Well thanks for being patronising.

I only do this for a living you know :)

I did a speed test after hours of course, and I've concluded this must be contention.

When I tested this on a sunday , i got completely different figures.



Apologies and all that, wasn't sure from the post what level you were coming from. My bad.
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #124 on: October 15, 2007, 01:47:42 PM »
If anything cable suffers from contention more than ADSL.
Not mine it doesn't, I know of at least 4 people in the 10 houses either side of me who have it, and I can't ever remember getting anything other than great performance, don't benchmark it very often but it seems fine. Any issues only ever come after prolonged torrent downloading (due to firewall caching etc) but thats it. One of my neighbours has 3 different connections - Cable, and 2 x BT work lines plus ADSL and they are forever bitching about their speeds and variability. I guess it just works for me.
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #125 on: October 15, 2007, 06:20:18 PM »
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #126 on: October 15, 2007, 06:39:12 PM »
Getting better!! I think I may have a semi . . . .



The good lady wife has been on the phone to Virgin today. I think I may owe her jewellery now!!! 

Should be 20Mb, will try again later this evening at Porn o' clock.
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2007, 10:31:07 PM »


How gash, you can only get 2mg here though I think but still it's bad. It must be down to the computer because when I had my laptop before I broke it, the internet was far faster on that than on this pc.
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #128 on: October 16, 2007, 12:28:55 AM »


How gash, you can only get 2mg here though I think but still it's bad. It must be down to the computer because when I had my laptop before I broke it, the internet was far faster on that than on this pc.
The internet is actually heavier on PC's. Did you know that?
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #129 on: October 16, 2007, 08:46:23 AM »


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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #130 on: October 16, 2007, 11:17:58 AM »
3 things. Firstly as Slick_Beef points out you need to be the only one using it to get an accurate reading.
Secondly, Upload speed is usually about an 8th of your download speed.
Thirdly, and I know you didn't say this but worth pointing out anyway, these are speeds measured in Megabits not Megabytes - that's eight times smaller than a Megabyte. To put it into context, a 1 Megabyte is 1 million characters of text, a  Megabit is 125,000 (although Megabit is usually used as a measurement of speed as in Megabits per second).

Basically 8Mbps (download) connection is likely to only have 1Mbps upload speed associated with it, that's not including contention with others doing the same who are sharing the same kit at the your local exchange which will bring it down, also take into account others sharing the same connection in the office who are using it and that's probably not too bad.

Patronising? Who? Me?

Yeah, course I am mate . . .  :P

Can you explain my speeds then?

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #131 on: October 16, 2007, 11:26:09 AM »
Can you explain my speeds then?



Your line is either has lot of contention (shared between too many people), is too far away from the exchange or is shite.

Ring up BT and shout at them. What speed is it meant to be?
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #132 on: October 16, 2007, 11:30:42 AM »
Can you explain my speeds then?



Post the attenuation stats from your router,

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #133 on: October 16, 2007, 01:01:17 PM »
They say I can only get 512k as I am quite far from the exchange, but they make me pay for the premium service as they say that is the only option they offer. But 231 is pretty slow, I don't live THAT far from the exchange

But why is my upload higher than my download?

Heres the stats:

DSL Connection 

Link Information
   
 
Uptime: 0 days, 12:18:50
 
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A
 
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 288
 
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 25.69 / 103.36
 
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 12.5
 
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 31.5 / 63.5
 
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 12.0 / 8.5
 
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ALCB
 
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
 
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 2 / 0
 
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
 
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
 
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 10 / 0
 
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 358
 
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 32
 
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 20
 
 
« Last Edit: October 16, 2007, 01:03:51 PM by Bucke »
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #134 on: October 16, 2007, 01:10:16 PM »
With that attenuation you should be able to get about 2Mbit, but BT's stupid profile system will pull that down so 512k is probably about the most you will get.

Are you connected to dodgy extensions & do you have filters on all phones. If you pick up the phone is it noisy in the background?
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #136 on: October 16, 2007, 01:43:28 PM »
There's only 1 phone socket in our house and its got the house phone and the router plugged into it with a filter on

I tried it with the phone unplugged and the speeds were the same. I don't have an adaptor to try without the filter on, I can get one if you think it is worth it. Should I try a new filter?


There isn't any noise on the phone but it is pretty quiet. We used to leave the sky plugged into the phone socket as well, but that did make noise on the phone so we only plug it in when we get box office now
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #137 on: October 16, 2007, 05:53:28 PM »
So which is better? I have to pay for a static but why and is it worth the money?

The only reason you'd want a static IP address is if you plan on hosting things on your machines and you need people to be able to find them. Think of it like a phone number, when you are dialing out you couldn't care less if your number kept changing. People trying to contact you would struggle though.  (Don't worry with things like messenger, when you connect to the messenger service it will note your current IP address and other messenger clients will know).  I think in practice ISPs tend not to alter the IP address much anyway as there isn't really any point.

Put more simply, if you don't already know the difference between a static and a dynamic address then you are probably fine with either and should save your pennies !
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #138 on: October 16, 2007, 06:18:02 PM »
My figures are too embarassingly poor to post.

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2007, 03:13:57 PM »
Apologies and all that, wasn't sure from the post what level you were coming from. sorry.

No no , it's been a long time since i've been patronized.

I am usually the one doing that :)
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #141 on: October 19, 2007, 08:05:15 PM »
All i can say to anyone thinking of getting o2 broadband is good fucking luck!
I checked my house, matts house, my mums house, my nans house and most of the people of work withs houses.....
There is not an o2 broadband packagae available in your area!
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #142 on: October 19, 2007, 08:28:12 PM »
Obviously Be had the sense not the waste money on LLU stuff that far down south :P

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #144 on: October 20, 2007, 07:07:57 AM »
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #145 on: October 20, 2007, 03:20:47 PM »
Home internet- 2MB line:

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #146 on: October 20, 2007, 09:34:55 PM »


installed IE7 and my d/l has muchly improved for some reason
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #147 on: October 21, 2007, 12:25:01 AM »
Can you explain my speeds then?


Not really. I assume you weren't downloading anything at the time? No noise on the line, (although that should mean a shittier upload speed too). Perhaps you have very 'downloady' neighbours?
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #148 on: October 21, 2007, 06:36:38 AM »
Who knows mate. Like I said I have installed ie7 and that seems to have tripled my download speed although that was last night, i'll have another look in the week
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #149 on: October 21, 2007, 10:27:32 PM »
My figures are too embarassingly poor to eventually post.

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #150 on: October 21, 2007, 10:31:18 PM »
Who knows mate. Like I said I have installed ie7 and that seems to have tripled my download speed although that was last night, i'll have another look in the week
Some good info here for you John: http://forum.adslnation.com/viewtopic.php?p=1438&sid=cf282bc057b820cb0fb321ecb2a6a196

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #151 on: October 21, 2007, 10:37:42 PM »


10mb line... could be worse

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #152 on: October 22, 2007, 11:31:28 AM »
Here's my brand new 16MB line.



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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2007, 07:51:43 PM »


8mb target.

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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #155 on: December 14, 2007, 06:37:53 AM »


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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #156 on: December 14, 2007, 09:36:22 PM »
I piss on all you motherfuckers....  :P
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #157 on: December 14, 2007, 09:44:32 PM »
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Re: The Broadband Speed Pissing Contest
« Reply #158 on: December 15, 2007, 05:35:14 PM »
I piss on all you motherfuckers....  :P
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« Reply #159 on: December 16, 2007, 11:15:45 AM »
(that's the internet connection in my room at uni).
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