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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4320 on: February 17, 2014, 09:05:40 am »
that interview doesn't make any sense

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4321 on: February 17, 2014, 09:08:32 am »
Bizarre that he's come out with this now.  Why not as soon as Hodgson and Purslow had gone?

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4322 on: February 17, 2014, 09:35:56 am »
Bizarre that he's come out with this now.  Why not as soon as Hodgson and Purslow had gone?

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4323 on: February 17, 2014, 09:39:59 am »
The word of Hodsgon and Purslow against a player who always gave 110% when he put on the shirt for us.

I know who I'd be more inclined to believe.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4324 on: February 17, 2014, 09:55:59 am »
Who gives a fuck? Three and a half years ago and fuck all relevancy to any of the people at the club now. "Purslow and Hodgson Were c*nts" the headline might have been. Nothing we didn't know.
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4325 on: February 17, 2014, 09:58:10 am »
The word of Hodsgon and Purslow against a player who always gave 110% when he put on the shirt for us.

I know who I'd be more inclined to believe.

The truth is somewhere in between. Masch is certainly no angel in this. Wouldn't be the first player to show 110%, and then throw a strop.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4326 on: February 17, 2014, 09:59:41 am »
Took only three paragraphs before contradicting the statement made in the thread title. Pass.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4327 on: February 17, 2014, 10:04:57 am »
Confirming what everybody with more than two brain cells already knew. Mascherano was a great player for us who always gave his all in the Red shirt. He was right to want to leave at that time to better himself and his family in Barcelona and it's sad he was betrayed by two gobshites who thankfully now have nothing to do with our club.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4328 on: February 17, 2014, 10:09:18 am »
I did not refuse to play against City..

Then he says

..I refused to line up for Liverpool


What's the difference? Either way I love Masch, fuck Owl and Purslow  :wanker

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4329 on: February 17, 2014, 10:11:00 am »
Who gives a fuck? Three and a half years ago and fuck all relevancy to any of the people at the club now. "Purslow and Hodgson Were c*nts" the headline might have been. Nothing we didn't know.

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Though one "truth" I'm looking forward to hearing is from our once beloved Nando "handing in his transfer request"

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4330 on: February 17, 2014, 10:28:25 am »
For a second I thought he was talking about City-Barcelona match tomorrow

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4331 on: February 17, 2014, 10:32:21 am »
Confirming what everybody with more than two brain cells already knew. Mascherano was a great player for us who always gave his all in the Red shirt. He was right to want to leave at that time to better himself and his family in Barcelona and it's sad he was betrayed by two gobshites who thankfully now have nothing to do with our club.

how he was betrayed exactly? we were betrayed by two gobshites, not mascherano... he always wanted to go to sunny place
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4332 on: February 17, 2014, 10:32:31 am »
Took only three paragraphs before contradicting the statement made in the thread title. Pass.

Exactly... wtf?

Not sure what's happened there, either way it ends up giving the article an air of the ridiculous.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4333 on: February 17, 2014, 10:48:06 am »
Barcelona’s offer was at least £5m short of what he was worth, that’s the reason the club made it “difficult” for him.  His actions then forced the move through and we got screwed over.

I’m in the minority but I have a lot more respect for Torres than Mascherano, at least we got a fair price when he left.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4334 on: February 17, 2014, 11:03:43 am »


Think its a typo. Only thing that makes sense

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4335 on: February 17, 2014, 11:16:27 am »
Again its all in the past but Rafa said that Mascherano wanted to leave the season before he did, so not sure what he means by the promises.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4336 on: February 17, 2014, 11:18:50 am »
Mascherano was a world class player for us.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4337 on: February 17, 2014, 11:23:01 am »
Mascherano was a world class player for us.
So was Torres, yet he gets far more hatred than Masch.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4338 on: February 17, 2014, 11:26:59 am »
Loved Masch but didn't we sign him for £18mil, then sell him for £18mil?  Considering his rise in stock during his time with us, it's pretty obvious we got screwed over.

Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.  When you look at how Brendan, John Henry and the team handled the Suarez situation in summer, you can be quite sure this won't be happening again.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4339 on: February 17, 2014, 11:38:23 am »
I did not refuse to play against City..

Then he says

..I refused to line up for Liverpool


What's the difference? Either way I love Masch, fuck Owl and Purslow  :wanker
Where does he say he refused to line up for Liverpool? I'm confused.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4340 on: February 17, 2014, 11:49:20 am »
It sounds like he's saying that he wanted an amicable departure and that he was happy to play for as long as he was technically a Liverpool player. But Purslow and so on were maybe trying to haggle or something, or that Hodgson and co. pretended that he was refusing to play in order to appease the fans?

Whatever the case, I don't care. It's more interesting that after 3.5 years, Mascherano feels the need to clarify things. It shows how much he cares about Liverpool. Liverpool has that effect even on an Argentinian.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4341 on: February 17, 2014, 11:52:52 am »
Frankly I don't have bad feeling towards any player who left under Hodgson and Purslow.

But certainly not Masch.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4342 on: February 17, 2014, 11:54:37 am »
It's sad the he still thinks he needs to clarify things. Everyone here loves Masch, and always will. A number of players have spoken of broken promises by Purslow et al, and I think we, more than anyone, understand what happened and don't blame him at all for leaving. Shows how much he cares about us that he wants to put the record straight, but don't worry Masch, we knew all along how destructive Purslow and the gang were to the club.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4343 on: February 17, 2014, 11:55:29 am »
Could have gone on to be an all time great Defensive Midfielder, now he is an undersized second rate centre back


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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4344 on: February 17, 2014, 11:56:20 am »
Barcelona’s offer was at least £5m short of what he was worth, that’s the reason the club made it “difficult” for him.  His actions then forced the move through and we got screwed over.

I’m in the minority but I have a lot more respect for Torres than Mascherano, at least we got a fair price when he left.

yup... the only betrayed side in that situation were Liverpool... mascherano by forcing his move and go for peanuts, and two bastards not spending the peanuts to replace him
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4345 on: February 17, 2014, 12:04:12 pm »
So was Torres, yet he gets far more hatred than Masch.

Not specifically directed at you specifically but I don't why everything has to be a competition on here sometimes. Over recent weeks, I've read Torres vs Mascherano, Skrtel vs Agger, Flanagan vs Johnson, Allen vs Henderson and worst of all, Benitez vs Rodgers. And it's not even simply comparing them as players but an excuse for people to defend their favourites by having a go at players they don't like (or worse still, simply having a go at players they don't like).
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4346 on: February 17, 2014, 12:10:04 pm »
Not specifically directed at you specifically but I don't why everything has to be a competition on here sometimes. Over recent weeks, I've read Torres vs Mascherano, Skrtel vs Agger, Flanagan vs Johnson, Allen vs Henderson and worst of all, Benitez vs Rodgers. And it's not even simply comparing them as players but an excuse for people to defend their favourites by having a go at players they don't like (or worse still, simply having a go at players they don't like).
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4347 on: February 17, 2014, 12:17:07 pm »
Think its a typo. Only thing that makes sense
Yeah, not sure why anyone would point that out when it's obviously a typo.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4348 on: February 17, 2014, 12:17:34 pm »
So was Torres, yet he gets far more hatred than Masch.

The c*nt went to Chelsea.
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4349 on: February 17, 2014, 12:30:36 pm »
Saving it up until February 16, 2014?  ???

Just like Xabi he left under a bit of a cloud but you cant really put much blame on either & their contribution to the club vastly outweighs it. Torres get a bit of a raw deal as similar aspects... Guess its just the Chelsea factor.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4350 on: February 17, 2014, 12:44:29 pm »
Bizarre that he's come out with this now.  Why not as soon as Hodgson and Purslow had gone?
hes playing city at city tomorrow for barca, hence the relevance

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4351 on: February 17, 2014, 12:55:01 pm »
Broken promises to the fans, broken promises to the players. It was that simple. The two cancers and Purslow can rot in hell for all I care. Also I don't blame him for now wanting to play under the owl either.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4352 on: February 17, 2014, 01:20:34 pm »
The word of Hodsgon and Purslow against a player who always gave 110% when he put on the shirt for us.

I know who I'd be more inclined to believe.

Yup. Same for me mate. He was promised players of a certain caliber being signed, then we got Paul Fucking Kon...urg and Christian Pou...blerg I cant.
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4353 on: February 17, 2014, 01:31:35 pm »
Barcelona’s offer was at least £5m short of what he was worth, that’s the reason the club made it “difficult” for him.  His actions then forced the move through and we got screwed over.

I’m in the minority but I have a lot more respect for Torres than Mascherano, at least we got a fair price when he left.


You best have a look at why Barca's offer was '£5m short' - could be that Purslow had said he wouldn't sell to Inter - so that ruled out a bidding war or securing a good price with only 1 club interested - they (Barca) knew they had room to manouevre on the price. Also, LFC were up against the transfer window, and us alienating a player LFC'd agreed to let leave in that very transfer window after persuading him to give us another season rather than lose him and Alonso in the same season previously.

Like others have said - I'd believe the facts (and incompetence of Purslow and Hodgson, G&H, Ayre and others) rather than slate players and staff who gave us great memories and helped us get so close.


BTW do you ask yourself why the club made it 'difficult' for the player when the buying club were the ones offering '£5m' short?
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4354 on: February 17, 2014, 01:31:40 pm »
Yup. Same for me mate. He was promised players of a certain caliber being signed, then we got Paul Fucking Kon...urg and Christian Pou...blerg I cant.
Worse still, we sold him to pay for them.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4355 on: February 17, 2014, 01:41:50 pm »
What a player he was.

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4356 on: February 17, 2014, 01:44:50 pm »
and he's coming out with this now because...

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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4357 on: February 17, 2014, 01:46:17 pm »
and he's coming out with this now because...

Obviously he wants to return to play for the mighty reds under Brendan.
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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4358 on: February 17, 2014, 01:46:43 pm »
Mascherano reveals bitter Liverpool exit
February 16, 2014

Javier Mascherano has revealed to The Times he left Liverpool "with a bad feeling" and has denied refusing to play for the club against Manchester City before moving to Barcelona three-and-a-half years ago.

Javier Mascherano insists he did not refuse to play for Liverpool
despite Roy Hodgson's claims
The Argentina international was left out of the then Anfield manager Roy Hodgson's plans for the 3-0 defeat to City in August 2010, with Hodgson suggesting that the defensive midfielder's 'mind was not right' after interest from the Catalan giants.

However, Mascherano insists he refused to line up for Liverpool, and states he kept his silence at the time due to his admiration for the Premier League side, while suggesting that the club's hierarchy failed to keep their word leading to a relationship breakdown.


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Re: Javier Mascherano "I did not refuse to play against City"
« Reply #4359 on: February 17, 2014, 01:48:56 pm »
Who cares now? Seriously?
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