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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #600 on: January 27, 2015, 06:23:08 pm »
I quite enjoyed Bitter Lake, but I'm not sure about some of the narrative.

He seemed to be saying that the West's attempts to turn the conflict into a fight between good vs evil, was a fault of policy rather than just a means of spinning it to the public, which I don't buy for a second.
Surely our leaders aren't so stupid and short sighted. Surely if a guy who makes documentaries can see what's wrong with that, and various military figures can see the problem (like the British army captain he interviewed), then the policy makers would have seen it too, or at least have been better advised?
These are leaders of some of the world's biggest powers, but we're led to believe they're just idiots, who stumble blindly into these things in an attempt to do good because, you know, they're the good guys.

The West's attempts to build a functioning democracy there, was portrayed as an ideological manoeuvre rather than a strategic one. In fact there was no mention of Afghanistan's strategic importance in terms of its geographical location at all hardly. None that I can remember anyway.
There wasn't a single mention of neighbouring Iran, which seemed a bit odd to say the least, seeing as Iran is flanked by Iraq on one side and Afghanistan on the other.
Also no mention of the Trans-Afghanistan oil pipeline, which is said to be crucial in enabling Europe to be less energy dependent on Russia and the Gulf, amongst other things.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/dec/10/afghan-war-france-germany-europe

I thought maybe he was trying a bit too hard to shoehorn some of his thoughts into his Solaris angle, which to be fair, was a good angle.

Apart from that, I thought it was very well made and thought provoking with lots of interesting history and great footage. And it's always good to see him take a swipe at the banks and money men.
The music was great too. Burial, This Mortal Coil and one of my favourite pieces of music running through it, Messiaen's Turangalila Symphony 6.


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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #601 on: January 27, 2015, 07:32:06 pm »
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Mate I've watched Bitter Lake yesterday and I've my views re that which I would explain after today's dust settles down (matchday)

But I have to say this video that I posted made me laugh  ;D
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« Reply #602 on: January 27, 2015, 07:33:44 pm »
Does Bitter Lake have subtitles?
Was going to download from youtube but I'd like to have the subtitles if there are any?

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #603 on: January 28, 2015, 06:07:55 am »
Does Bitter Lake have subtitles?
Was going to download from youtube but I'd like to have the subtitles if there are any?

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If you watch it on BBC Iplayer you can turn the subtitles on.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #604 on: January 28, 2015, 07:07:34 am »
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Interesting article in the papers today, though we all know this and Curtis himself kind of alludes to it but didn't bother fleshing it out. I'm referring to the meeting between Faisal and Roosevelt:

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Intervention in civil wars ‘far more likely in oil-rich nations’

Conspiracy theorists have long insisted that modern wars revolve around oil. Now research suggests hydrocarbons play an even bigger role in conflicts than they had suspected.

According to academics from the Universities of Portsmouth, Warwick and Essex, foreign intervention in a civil war is 100 times more likely when the afflicted country has high oil reserves than if it has none. The research is the first to confirm the role of oil as a dominant motivating factor in conflict, suggesting hydrocarbons were a major reason for the military intervention in Libya, by a coalition which included the UK, and the current US campaign against Isis in northern Iraq.

It suggests we are set for a period of low intervention because the falling oil price makes it a less valuable asset to protect. “We found clear evidence that countries with potential for oil production are more likely to be targeted by foreign intervention if civil wars erupt,” said one of the report authors, Dr Petros Sekeris, of the University of Portsmouth. “Military intervention is expensive and risky. No country joins another country’s civil war without balancing the cost against their own strategic interests.”

The report’s starkest finding is that a third party is 100 times more likely to intervene when the country at war is a big producer and exporter of oil than when it has no reserves. “After a rigorous and systematic analysis, we found that the role of economic incentives emerges as a key factor in intervention,” said co-author Dr Vincenzo Bove, of the University of Warwick. “Before the Isis forces approached the oil-rich Kurdish north of Iraq, Isis was barely mentioned in the news. But once Isis got near oil fields, the siege of Kobani in Syria became a headline and the US sent drones to strike Isis targets,” he added.

The study, published in the Journal of Conflict Resolution, analysed 69 civil wars between 1945 and 1999, but did not examine foreign invasions. It noted that civil wars have made up more than 90 per cent of all armed conflicts since the Second World War and that two-thirds of these have seen a third-party intervention.

The researchers drew their conclusions after modelling the decision-making process of the third-parties’ interventions. This assessed a wide range of factors such as their military power and the strength of the rebel army, as well as their demand for oil and the level of supplies in the target country. It found that the decision to intervene was dominated by the third-party’s need for oil, far more than historical, geographic or ethnic ties.

The US maintains troops in Persian Gulf oil producers and has a history of supporting conservative autocratic states in spite of the emphasis on democratic reform elsewhere, the report says. However, the recent surge in US oil production suggests the country will be intervening less in the future – with China potentially taking up the role as lead intervener, the report suggests.

Well defended: Britain’s military interventions

When the UK intervened

Britain intervened in the Nigerian Civil War, also known as the Biafran War, between 1967 and 1970. During this period the UK was one of the biggest importers of oil in the world, with North Sea oil production only starting in 1975. BP’s presence in the oil-rich eastern region of the country meant stability in the area was of critical importance.

The invasion of Iraq in 2003, led by the US and the UK, wasn’t covered in the research because it wasn’t a civil war. However, the report notes previous claims that a thirst for oil was “the alleged ‘true’ motivation of the US invasion of Iraq”.

David Cameron was instrumental in setting up the coalition that intervened in Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya in 2011, a country with sizeable oil reserves.

When the UK did not intervene

Britain watched on as Sierra Leone’s Revolutionary United Front, with support from Charles Taylor’s National Patriotic Front of Liberia, attempted to overthrow Joseph Momoh’s government. The resulting civil war lasted 11 years (1991 to 2002) and enveloped the country, leaving more than 50,000 dead.

The UK also opted not to intervene in the Rhodesian Bush War between 1964 and 1979 – a three-way battle between the Rhodesian  government, the military wing of Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe African National Union and the Zimbabwe People’s Revolutionary Army.

More recently, the UK failed to take action in Syria, another country suffering at the hands of a dictator – but with little in the way of oil reserves.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #605 on: January 28, 2015, 08:26:23 am »
If you watch it on BBC Iplayer you can turn the subtitles on.



I meant for anyone else talking....if it's about Afghan, I wondered if there were any Afghan interviews, conversations etc.
I don't need subs, just wondered if any were required is all.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #606 on: January 28, 2015, 02:16:23 pm »


I meant for anyone else talking....if it's about Afghan, I wondered if there were any Afghan interviews, conversations etc.
I don't need subs, just wondered if any were required is all.

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« Reply #607 on: January 28, 2015, 05:24:00 pm »

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While travelling, he struck up an unlikely friendship with a Libyan hippie, and when revolution broke out in Libya, Matt joined his friend in the fight against dictator Muammar Gaddafi. With a gun in one hand and a camera in the other, Matt fought in - and filmed - the war until he was captured by Gaddafi forces and held in solitary confinement for six months.
Two-time Oscar-nominated documentary filmmaker Marshall Curry tells this harrowing and sometimes humorous story of a young man's search for political revolution and personal transformation.
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Bit of a Timothy Treadwell - Grizzly Man - thing going on worth a watch.
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« Reply #608 on: January 29, 2015, 07:36:19 pm »
Storyville - 2014-2015: 10. The Arabian Motorcycle Adventures

Documentary which tells the remarkable story of Matt Van Dyke, a timid 26-year-old with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, who left home in Baltimore in 2006 and set off on a self-described 'crash course in manhood'. He bought a motorcycle and a video camera and began a multi-year, 35,000-mile motorcycle trip through northern Africa and the Middle East.
While travelling, he struck up an unlikely friendship with a Libyan hippie, and when revolution broke out in Libya, Matt joined his friend in the fight against dictator Muammar Gaddafi. With a gun in one hand and a camera in the other, Matt fought in - and filmed - the war until he was captured by Gaddafi forces and held in solitary confinement for six months.
Two-time Oscar-nominated documentary filmmaker Marshall Curry tells this harrowing and sometimes humorous story of a young man's search for political revolution and personal transformation.
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Bit of a Timothy Treadwell - Grizzly Man - thing going on worth a watch.

Yeah, it's a decent film. Felt similar to The Reluctant Revolutionary by Sean McAllister which is really good. If you like this one, try to watch that.
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« Reply #609 on: January 29, 2015, 08:18:21 pm »
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That's just not very good. I'm not an idiot and I can tell the difference between what Curtis does and that half arsed parody.
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« Reply #610 on: January 29, 2015, 08:52:28 pm »
Spoiler
After watching the Bitter Lake I felt like it is trying to convey a philosophy more than the reality. The philosophy takes it's metaphor from the movie Solaris and it can be argued as to how true the comparison really is which kind of beats the purpose of making a documentary when you can write an article about it instead.

The whole time it uses powerful and violent footage to churn the human emotions and a few (well worked) metaphors here and there to convey it's message but not many interviews to support the argument. There is truth in it to some extent for instance the Wahabis being manipulated and shunted out of Saudi Arabia to Afghan which might actually come back to bite them in the form of ISIS but what is the difference between this documentary and people discussion on a forum or writing an article, not much.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #611 on: January 30, 2015, 12:39:20 am »
Spoiler
After watching the Bitter Lake I felt like it is trying to convey a philosophy more than the reality. The philosophy takes it's metaphor from the movie Solaris and it can be argued as to how true the comparison really is which kind of beats the purpose of making a documentary when you can write an article about it instead.

The whole time it uses powerful and violent footage to churn the human emotions and a few (well worked) metaphors here and there to convey it's message but not many interviews to support the argument. There is truth in it to some extent for instance the Wahabis being manipulated and shunted out of Saudi Arabia to Afghan which might actually come back to bite them in the form of ISIS but what is the difference between this documentary and people discussion on a forum or writing an article, not much.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #612 on: January 30, 2015, 05:35:14 am »
I'd like to see Curtis do an update to the Power of Nightmares from 2004.
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« Reply #613 on: February 2, 2015, 04:06:04 pm »

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« Reply #614 on: February 2, 2015, 05:31:09 pm »
....Why the fuck do people fall for this shyte? ...

They're often desperate, and they want, really want, to believe the unbelievable, that somehow there's something magical that exists that can intervene and change their lives for the better.

You can see the same sort of fervour in the pilgrimages to places like Lourdes or to Holy shrines of many other religions.

It's very sad.

But it's not unlike many people's belief in nonsense like Horoscopes, magic amulets and similar woo.

Scratch the surface of a lot of people and you'll find they can be amazingly superstitious and often in complete denial of the scientific evidence that totally contradicts the claimed effectiveness of such nonsense.

They become easy prey to the unscrupulous out to make a buck.


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« Reply #615 on: February 2, 2015, 05:52:31 pm »
After watching the Bitter Lake I felt like it is trying to convey a philosophy more than the reality. The philosophy takes it's metaphor from the movie Solaris and it can be argued as to how true the comparison really is which kind of beats the purpose of making a documentary when you can write an article about it instead.

The whole time it uses powerful and violent footage to churn the human emotions and a few (well worked) metaphors here and there to convey it's message but not many interviews to support the argument. There is truth in it to some extent for instance the Wahabis being manipulated and shunted out of Saudi Arabia to Afghan which might actually come back to bite them in the form of ISIS but what is the difference between this documentary and people discussion on a forum or writing an article, not much.


I don't know why that was in spoilers and I think you missed the point completely. For a start, Wahabism wasn't manipulated and shunted out of Saudi Arabia - it's the dominant version of Islam in Saudi and was exported, not shunted out.


The point of the film was to show that the simplistic black and white, good and evil narrative that is often used by Western leaders and western media does not give a true picture of the complicated political and religious history of the middle east. I thought it did that really well. What did you thin the message was?
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« Reply #616 on: February 2, 2015, 06:51:41 pm »

I don't know why that was in spoilers and I think you missed the point completely. For a start, Wahabism wasn't manipulated and shunted out of Saudi Arabia - it's the dominant version of Islam in Saudi and was exported, not shunted out.


The point of the film was to show that the simplistic black and white, good and evil narrative that is often used by Western leaders and western media does not give a true picture of the complicated political and religious history of the middle east. I thought it did that really well. What did you thin the message was?

Thanks.

I know about the Wahabists and I also know that there are two kinds of Wahabisms currently in practice and it is much more complicated than what it looks like in Saudi Arabia, one of my class mates is from Saudi Arabia who told me a lot about how the whole "export" was then. Ofcourse there will be many sides to that but I generally listen and view all the sides that I get my hands on without any bias.

 If you were to make this documentary or I then no one would give a damn about it because they would ask us for proofs because reputation plays an important role here. The footage (not all) doesn't really add-up to what Curtis is trying to say which I am not saying isn't true or could be false but it's just that it leaves you with theories more than facts.

Either way what he said in the documentary was really deep and I was fascinated by the comparison with the movie Solaris but it could have been a lot less in length.
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« Reply #617 on: February 2, 2015, 08:02:30 pm »
Thanks.

I know about the Wahabists and I also know that there are two kinds of Wahabisms currently in practice and it is much more complicated than what it looks like in Saudi Arabia, one of my class mates is from Saudi Arabia who told me a lot about how the whole "export" was then. Ofcourse there will be many sides to that but I generally listen and view all the sides that I get my hands on without any bias.

 If you were to make this documentary or I then no one would give a damn about it because they would ask us for proofs because reputation plays an important role here. The footage (not all) doesn't really add-up to what Curtis is trying to say which I am not saying isn't true or could be false but it's just that it leaves you with theories more than facts.

Either way what he said in the documentary was really deep and I was fascinated by the comparison with the movie Solaris but it could have been a lot less in length.
He's polemicist who uses archival material in an experimental way, to delve deeper than you more factual based garden variety documentaries. I look at his oeuvre as part art, part traditional documentary and story-telling. Very much like Marcel Duchamp's urinal, he stretches the traditional documentary form in a new way.
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« Reply #618 on: February 2, 2015, 08:06:19 pm »
He's polemicist who uses archival material in an experimental way, to delve deeper than you more factual based garden variety documentaries. I look at his oeuvre as part art, part traditional documentary and story-telling. Very much like Marcel Duchamp's urinal, he stretches the traditional documentary form in a new way.
Yeah, but why bother when he could have written it and posted it on an internet forum.
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Yeah, but why bother when he could have written it and posted it on an internet forum.

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« Reply #620 on: February 3, 2015, 01:48:14 pm »

Storyville -2014-2015: 11. The Internet's Own Boy


Documentary which explores the life of internet activist Aaron Swartz, and the circumstances that led to his early death. It traces how tech wunderkind Swartz engaged in pioneering work from an early age, helping to devise several groundbreaking computer systems. But it was his work in social justice and political organising, combined with his aggressive approach to information access, that placed him on a collision course with the US government. It ensnared him in a two-year legal nightmare - a battle which ended with his suicide at the age of 26. Aaron's story touched a nerve with people far beyond the online communities, in which he was a celebrity. Through personal archive, testimonies from his family and world leaders in the computing field, the film paints a portrait of an exceptional young man, and explores the tragedy of how Swartz became a victim of the rights and freedoms for which he stood.

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Storyville -2014-2015: 11. The Internet's Own Boy


Documentary which explores the life of internet activist Aaron Swartz, and the circumstances that led to his early death. It traces how tech wunderkind Swartz engaged in pioneering work from an early age, helping to devise several groundbreaking computer systems. But it was his work in social justice and political organising, combined with his aggressive approach to information access, that placed him on a collision course with the US government. It ensnared him in a two-year legal nightmare - a battle which ended with his suicide at the age of 26. Aaron's story touched a nerve with people far beyond the online communities, in which he was a celebrity. Through personal archive, testimonies from his family and world leaders in the computing field, the film paints a portrait of an exceptional young man, and explores the tragedy of how Swartz became a victim of the rights and freedoms for which he stood.


I watched that last year. Very good and a very sad story.

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« Reply #622 on: February 3, 2015, 02:45:31 pm »
I watched that last year. Very good and a very sad story.
Depressing. The Obama administration didn't make a single prosecution against the perpetrators of the financial crisis. Yet 35 years for hacktivists who want to make the world a better place. Obama should have just spent his entire presidency on the golf course.
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« Reply #623 on: February 5, 2015, 12:57:12 pm »
This is now about at the usual outlets.

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« Reply #624 on: February 5, 2015, 05:36:58 pm »
Depressing. The Obama administration didn't make a single prosecution against the perpetrators of the financial crisis. Yet 35 years for hacktivists who want to make the world a better place. Obama should have just spent his entire presidency on the golf course.

Very sad and inspiring at the same time
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« Reply #625 on: February 9, 2015, 04:16:39 pm »
Depressing. The Obama administration didn't make a single prosecution against the perpetrators of the financial crisis. Yet 35 years for hacktivists who want to make the world a better place. Obama should have just spent his entire presidency on the golf course.

Depressing yes, surprising no.

Very good documentary, thanks for posting.
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« Reply #626 on: February 10, 2015, 12:16:45 am »
Watched the latest Storyville tonight - 'Mugabe and the Democrats' - and it's another very good one.

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« Reply #628 on: February 17, 2015, 02:49:14 am »
Bitter Lake was quite something. Deliberately avoided this thread before I had chance to see. Fallen in love with that Burial track used (Come Down To Us). Superb piece of film making even though one could (somewhat churlishly) highlight how it could have gone even further on the complexity of the situation there.
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« Reply #629 on: March 3, 2015, 03:04:30 pm »
Interesting NS article about the current 'golden-age' of documentary:

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2015/02/dont-publishreality-hunger-documentary-form-enters-its-golden-age

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Reality hunger: The documentary form enters its golden age

New ways to get film to audiences, plus democratising technology, have heralded a boom in documentaries.



In the centre of Harlem, if you walk along Malcolm X Boulevard, you will find – between Muhammad’s Mosque No 7 on West 127th Street and the Haitian Evangelical Missionary Church on West 128th Street – a small, rickety building. It contains some ragged seats, a dusty floor and a screen. I first entered the Maysles Cinema in the autumn of 2011, when I found myself living in New York and emerging from something of a cultural torpor. For a few years, I’d been lost in the mania of social media. When you are constantly tweeting, opining and facebooking, your capacity to absorb culture – and, I suspect, to think deeply – shrivels. Trying to read a novel or watch an intelligent film after two hours on Twitter is like trying to listen to a Billie Holiday song on your way out of a Slipknot concert.
 
That autumn, I had sworn off social media. In the Maysles Cinema and at the IFC Centre in the West Village, I started to slow down – enough to witness what seemed to me like a Vesuvius-scale eruption of an art form: the sudden moment at which it explodes in a hundred different directions and starts to burn through the culture. Everyone was talking about the “golden age of television” but another golden age had begun – that of non-fiction film-making. In a short space of time, I saw at least a dozen documentaries that were among the most exciting works of culture I had seen anywhere; and, unlike TV drama, or the novel, or theatre, it was an art form in the process of discovering new ways of showing the world, instead of (beautifully) improving on old ones.
 
Cinema began with non-fiction. A train filmed by the Lumière brothers pulled in to a station and the audience – or so the story goes – ran, screaming, from the flat image. But just a few years later, the French illusionist Georges Méliès was making surreal film strips in which he seems to be able to remove his own head: tricks of the moving light.

Fiction had found its way into film and soon it was dominant. Documentary cinema was trapped in the Lumière brothers’ station for almost 60 years by a technical brick wall. It was difficult to record sound and images simultaneously outside a film studio, so you couldn’t carry the camera out into the world and capture what you saw and heard. The result was that most films marketed as documentaries were, in essence, staged. The 1922 documentary Nanook of the North, which claimed to show what life was like for the “Eskimos”, was mostly a pretence: what you see are Inuit who were told to act out practices they hadn’t followed for a generation.
 
One of the first signs of what we would recognise as a real documentary today came in 1960, when a small film crew including the producer Robert Drew and the cinematographer Albert Maysles (the man after whom the Harlem cinema was named) started to follow two men around Wisconsin. Senator Hubert Humphrey and a younger colleague called John F Kennedy were running for the Democratic nomination to be president, standing outside factories to shake hands, offering banal speeches and generally scrumming blandly for votes. The technology had evolved: now you could record what a person did and what they said at the same time, out on the streets, unstaged. When I saw the film at the IFC Centre, I was startled by something. The people being filmed, apart from the politicians who had been briefed in advance, didn’t seem to recognise the camera as a camera. Perhaps they didn’t know it was filming them: nobody had ever seen people like them, captured randomly on screen. They are genuinely acting naturally.
 
Drew’s Primary and other early films of this kind are the closest we will ever get to a time machine: watching them, we can see people going about their lives, half a century ago, oblivious to the fact that they are being watched. They are the last people in the western world not to perform in front of a documentary camera. In Primary, there is an added layer of pathos for us: when the camera tracks JFK’s head through an adoring crowd, we know that head will be opened before another crowd less than four years later.
 
The dominant idea of what a documentary should be was born in that brief window when many people didn’t know what a film camera really looked like. The fancy name is cinéma-vérité. The rules are fairly straightforward. The subjects don’t look at us; we look at them. We pretend the filming is not happening. The film-maker is like an omni­scient narrator in a 19th-century novel; she sees everything and changes nothing.
 
Fast-forward to the release of a documentary in 2012 that redefined the form – one that shows what it can do now and how far it has come from its vérité roots. In Indonesia in the mid-1960s, the military – backed by the CIA – paid an army of gangsters to butcher a million people it had labelled as “communists” (but who in reality were anyone who might oppose it). Over four decades later, the US film-maker Joshua Oppenheimer arrived in the country and, with an Indonesian colleague who can’t be named because it would endanger his life, began to shoot interviews. It took him years until he found his way into this story, the key to their film The Act of Killing.
 
The killers, Oppenheimer discovered, had never been punished. On the contrary, they boasted about what they had done: they were proud of it and were cheered and whooped at on TV shows when they described how they would “exterminate” the victims’ children if they dared to argue back, even now, after all this time.
 
Oppenheimer came up with a very simple idea. He told several of the most prolific killers that he would like to give them a budget to make a film in which they re-created what they had done – how they had seen it, how they had experienced it and how it had made them feel. His documentary follows them as they make their “film”, as they reconstruct their memories and fantasies for us.
 
At the centre of the documentary is Anwar Congo, a gaunt man, bone-thin and balding a little, who is always dressed impeccably, like an ageing rock star. Near the start of the film, Oppenheimer goes with him to one of the spots where he ended the lives of dozens of people. “At first, we beat them to death but there was too much blood,” he says. He talks through the mechanics of killing, explaining that he turned to a form of garroting. He adds: “I’ve tried to forget all this with good music, dancing ... A little ecstasy.” He dances a small, happy shuffle-jig on the spot of his killings.
 
We watch as Anwar teams up with his old killing comrades. They re-create a village they burned down. “Kill them!” Anwar yells. “Burn it!” his men cry – and they do. Later, Anwar re-enacts an interrogation in which he snatched a baby from her mother and hacked out its eye before carving it to pieces. He chops up a doll on camera.
 
Does this movie sound like two and a half hours in the company of an unrepentant psychopath? It is much more interesting than that. As it progresses, Anwar takes us deeper into his way of seeing the world. He revered a melodramatic anti-communist propaganda film presenting the enemy as devils. “For me,” he says, “that film is the one thing that makes me feel not guilty. I watch the film and feel reassured.”
 
The visual world created by these killers is disorientating. One of them, Herman Koto, dresses in garish drag at every opportunity and stages a scene – using strikingly realistic make-up – in which he carves deep into Anwar’s throat. The killers emerge from buildings that look like giant, rusting fish; they dance under waterfalls.
 
Then something happens. Anwar’s bravado begins to fracture. He is describing acts of killing that he carried out in 1965 but by performing those acts decades later, he is cracking something within himself. It comes out in fractures and fragments and is usually followed by him shuffling back to his apparent indifference. After staging one atrocity scene, he says: “My friends kept telling me to act more sadistic but then I saw the women and children . . . They will curse us for the rest of their lives.” Soon after, he creates a scene – to the backdrop of the song “Born Free” – in which one of his victims embraces him and says, “For executing me and sending me to heaven, I thank you a thousand times.”
 
Anwar begins to stage his nightmares, too. Strange, ghoulish figures come to him while he sleeps. “Maybe it’s the communists who we killed in 1965?” his friend asks. “I don’t imagine it in such detail,” he replies uneasily.
 
What we are witnessing is the discovery of empathy, even in a mind that tried to drive it out with extreme violence and with total social approval. In one reconstructed scene, the other gangsters interrogate Anwar, tie a wire around his neck and pretend to throttle him. He stops the filming and says he can’t do that scene again. Later, when he watches the footage, he asks Oppenheimer: “Did the people I tortured feel the way I do here?”
 
In the only moment when Oppenheimer editorialises in the film, he replies, from off-camera: “Actually, the people you tortured felt far worse, because you knew it’s only a film. They knew they were being killed.” Anwar looks genuinely surprised.
 
In the final scene, Anwar returns to another of his killing spots, just as we saw him at the start. “I had to do it,” he says, bragging, as if the journey we have followed him on has meant nothing. Then, uncontrollably, he begins to retch and heave and we watch him like that for a long time.
 
For centuries, artists and writers have been trying to show us what it is like to be inside the mind of a mass murderer – but nobody has ever, to my knowledge, done it better than Oppenheimer. It’s a documentary so enormous that it gives you a sudden sense of what the form can do and what it could be. But, crucially, it is a shift away from the classical documentary and what we were raised to expect from it.
 
First, there is no pretence that Oppenheimer is capturing an unfiltered reality, the way in which Maysles and his colleagues captured the contest between Humphrey and Kennedy. Oppenheimer – to some extent, at least – created this reality. None of this would have happened without him landing in Indonesia and arranging it all. Nor is there an attempt at balance. This is a journey into a hellish head, a warped psyche – not a multifaceted portrait of a society.
 
There are a dozen different directions in which the non-fiction film is spinning away from its birthplace and all of them are proving to be remarkably fertile. There are dark and disorientating family stories, such as the 2003 film Capturing the Friedmans. There are campaign films: who can imagine the global warming debate without Davis Guggenheim’s An Inconvenient Truth (2006)? There are thrillers: the twist in Bart Layton’s The Imposter (2012) is the only time I have ever heard an entire cinema audience gasp as one. All of them deserve serious critical attention. At the moment, only the brilliant Mark Cousins seems to be writing substantially about this form.
 
For me, the most interesting genre is the one Oppenheimer’s film belongs to – films that explore not only the external world but also our internal worlds and the complex ways in which they interact.
 
Documentaries have begun to probe the deepest question of all: the nature of human consciousness. In the early 20th century, literary modernism pushed novels and poetry to explore – in ways nobody had thought of before – the fractured, subjective, broken ways in which any individual can understand the world. There is a school of documentaries doing the same. Among these is Sarah Polley’s Stories We Tell, which was also released in the US in 2012 and is now available on Netflix.
 
When she was a child, Polley was raised by two bohemian parents who were actors in snowy Canada. We enter their world almost immediately through home videos and there seems at once to be a universal language of camcordered domesticity that makes them feel familiar: children wave at the camera and dance around, the sun glistens and nostalgia washes over us. But Polley wants to ask the questions that come to most adults at some point in our lives. Is the story I was told about my family true? Are my parents the people I think they are? Can I, as an adult, imagine meeting my parents as contemporaries? Can I know the world before I was born – the world that made me?



In Polley’s case, there was a fracture in her story, one she had poked at in her mind like you would tease a wobbly tooth with your tongue but never really tackled. For as long as Polley could remember, her siblings had had a running joke – but it was one with an edge. The man you think is your dad, our dad, is not your real father, they would say. Your real dad is a different actor, somebody our mother had an affair with, before you were born.
 
It was hard for Polley to see if this meant anything, because her mother had died from cancer when she was very young. We get to know this woman in the film through home videos and through Polley’s interviews with people she tracked down – old friends, old lovers. We hear contradictory stories. This was a frustrated, unhappy woman; this was an admirable, free-spirited person. The film’s techniques are disorientating at first. All the way through, Polley’s “official” father narrates the story by reading from a book in avuncular “once upon a time” tones; we see her directing him to change how he says it, to act differently.
 
As the film goes on, we get more disorientated still. The home movies make us feel present in the past, but about halfway through I found myself asking: how did they get the home video of the mother meeting the man she was having an affair with? Who films their life this much? Gradually, we realise – and are eventually shown explicitly – that some of this home footage has been staged. Polley is showing us scenes that can never be found again, that are lost for ever, that she wants to see and can’t.
 
The technique slaps us, the viewers, into exactly the emotional state that Polley finds herself in. She is flicking through her own memory, reassessing everything she has seen, just as we are. The narrative style makes it possible for us to understand what it is to be inside her head, in a way we couldn’t if we coldly stood outside it, adhering to the rules of cinéma-vérité. The narrative style forces us to think about our own family stories – the core of our identities – in a different way. All of our childhood memories are, to some extent, conflations and confabulations. Polley has found a way to dramatise this universal truth.
 
The two traditions that were there at the birth of cinema – the Lumières with their steel-and-iron train erupting from the station and Georges Méliès with his fantastical visions erupting from his subconscious – are finally meeting, on the shore of the 21st century. As I sat through dozens of documentaries in the New York cinemas that are dedicated to them, I found myself asking why this golden age might be taking place now.
 
I spoke to 12 leading figures in the industry and found that almost all of them had a few explanations in common. To start with, the means of producing and distributing documentaries have become very democratised in the past decade. Heather Croall, the former director of the Sheffield Doc/Fest, tells me that not long ago it could cost £100,000 to get to use a professional editing suite. Now similar equipment is, in effect, available for as little as £100 on your laptop. Shooting that used to require wildly expensive cameras and film stock can be done on your phone.
 
At the same time, there is a new way to get your film to audiences. Cinema showings and film festivals have swollen enormously and the rise of on-demand viewing can help a niche film to find a niche audience – and then much more than a niche. For instance, the 2013 documentary Blackfish, which follows the story of a killer whale at SeaWorld from its capture in the wild to its deadly despair in its tank, has been a big hit on iTunes, where it has found a huge audience among teenage girls. The documentary seems to have damaged the SeaWorld brand irreparably: shares fell by 33 per cent, the CEO resigned before Christmas and attendance has fallen.
 
There may be another, more tectonic reason why non-fiction is finding such a fertile audience now. It goes back to where we started: we live in an age of endless, babbling artifice, in which we stare all day at screens, watch processed news, eat processed food and even interact with our friends through processed feeds in which we see them only at their most beautiful and their most upbeat, as if we were all PR agents now and the world were an endless press launch where the product is you. We live in a cloud, in both senses of the word.
 
The writer David Shields has talked about how this environment creates a sense of “reality hunger”. This mood can increasingly be seen in other art forms. The most acclaimed fiction films of the past few years – think 12 Years a Slave, or Boyhood – have a deliberately stripped-down, apparently artless, almost documentary style and so has the work of many of the most acclaimed fiction writers, from Teju Cole to Sheila Heti and Karl Ove Knausgaard. The phenomenal success of the podcast Serial showed that the hunger for narrative non-fiction ranges across all media. In an age of artifice, almost everything aspires to the authenticity of documentary.
 
There is – it occurred to me – something that documentaries can give us that these other art forms can approach but never quite achieve. Tabitha Jackson is head of the documentary programme at the Sundance Institute in LA. She tells me: “When Marina Abramovic talks about why she prefers performance art to theatre, she says, ‘[In] theatre, you know the gun is never a real gun, the blood is never the real blood . . .’ In a sense, that’s why I find documentary so powerful. The gun is a real gun. The blood is real blood. You can be following a character for years and then they die in front of you – that’s what happens in [the documentary about Palestine] 5 Broken Cameras, for example.” So, at their best, she explains, documentaries have “everything that every other art form has – the mystery of music, the imaginative narrative potential of fiction, plus the fact it’s true. And it happened.”
 
That is why documentaries will, I believe, continue to rise and rise though our hyperlinked daze. A few years ago, the Chilean documentary-maker Patricio Guzmán made a film called Nostalgia for the Light. He travelled to the Atacama Desert and documented two very different things that are happening in that sand-strewn wasteland. Every week, a group of women whose brothers or husbands disappeared during Augusto Pinochet’s dictatorship scrabble through the hard earth, trying to uncover the mass grave where their bodies might lie. Not far away, one of the most powerful astronomy centres in the world is tracking the actions of the farthest stars.
 
We sometimes talk metaphorically, Jackson tells me, about how a documentary can be both a “microscope and [a] telescope” – that it can take us from the very small to the very big and show us how they are connected. “But that film literally does it.” It takes us from the close-up of a grieving human face, “and then up into the whole universe”. That is what documentary films have been doing for some time now – and I don’t know any other art form that is doing it in so many startlingly new ways. It has turned a few battered seats in Harlem, between the wailing of the mosque and the singing of the evangelicals, into a cockpit for flying between the best and worst of humanity.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #630 on: March 3, 2015, 06:55:05 pm »
Is Bitter Lake gone from the BBC iPlayer? I search for it and it gives me an option of Adam Curtis: Bitter Lake, but when I press it it says "no results for Bitter Lake"! WTH!  :(

Nvm. Got it working.

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« Reply #631 on: March 3, 2015, 07:06:05 pm »
In 2012 an Indian student was violently raped on a moving bus in Delhi and died of horrific internal injuries. Leslee Udwin spoke to one of the rapists on death row while spending two years making a film about the case. She came away shocked by India's treatment of women - but inspired by those seeking change.

The horrifying details of the rape had led me to expect deranged monsters. Psychopaths. The truth was far more chilling. These were ordinary, apparently normal and certainly unremarkable men.

India's Daughter will be broadcast on Storyville on BBC Four on Sunday 8 March at 22:00 GMT.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31698154

Now that is going to be some hard viewing.

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« Reply #632 on: March 3, 2015, 07:11:07 pm »
Recently watched Walking The Nile.. I was inspired like never before. Tweeted the same to Levison Wood he replied back. Legend.
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« Reply #633 on: March 3, 2015, 08:13:56 pm »
All of Air Crash Investigation, don't know why but I find these enthralling.

Touching the Void is a great standalone documentary about a mountain climbing tragedy.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #634 on: March 4, 2015, 12:14:07 pm »

Touching the Void is a great standalone documentary about a mountain climbing tragedy.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379557/

I thought that Touching the Void was about what happens when your finger goes through the toilet paper.
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« Reply #635 on: March 4, 2015, 12:19:11 pm »
All of Air Crash Investigation, don't know why but I find these enthralling.

Watched a few seasons. I was seriously hooked for a good while but they get repetitive. I also can't stand the structure with the introduction. They basically spoil everything in the first minute: had to turn away and put it on mute hoping that I don't look back to soon.
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« Reply #636 on: March 4, 2015, 12:28:37 pm »
Yellowstone might be my favorite nature documentary. BBC always know what they're doing but this was exceptional, even for their standards. Highly recommended.
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« Reply #637 on: March 4, 2015, 12:41:49 pm »
Looking forward to the documentary on CI HD at 10pm Friday.

A profile of Barry Mills, The long time leader of the White Supremacist Prison gang, the Aryan Brotherhood .

Currently serving life without parole in the Super-max Federal Penitentiary ADX Florence, he is one of the most powerful individuals within the Prison system.

I don't expect any interviews with Mills as their code of silence is notorious and journos just don't get TV time with prisoners in Super-max. It probably wont even be a ground breaking documentary but it will sure as hell be interesting I reckon if you like this sort of thing.

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« Reply #638 on: March 4, 2015, 01:45:07 pm »
Not sure I can stomach it. Will probably give it a go.
And the fascist fucks in power have obtained a ban on its screening in India...Apparently it projects India in a negative light, never mind the irony of it being screened outside India anyway...

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/03/04/india-rape-film-idINKBN0LZ1P620150304

EDIT: Seems BBC4 is gonna broadcast it tonight...
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« Reply #639 on: March 4, 2015, 05:07:08 pm »
Citizenfour was just so good. So well made and my respect increased ten-fold for the articulate, thoughtful and apparently egoless Edward Snowden after viewing it.
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