Topic: Radio city announcment

[nidgemo]

What a load of crap mate i've been on the waitng list for years mate and if i got a letter tomoz i'd sell my soul to pay for it and chuck in the wife but wouldn't get much for her! Been in P.t.s for years with me lad and go every home game

So you're 1.

and I'm sure there are around 9,999 more like you.

However, practically EVERYONE who filled in a fancard app is also on the waiting list, and more of them won't take up the offer than would, either through being on twice, being older, circumstances different, moved away, never lived close enough in the first place etc.

[mike1975]

you must get loads of

I really don't think so - the reason? When fan card came in, there was a box to tick to be placed on the season ticket waiting list. I ticked it, I'm sure most did.

I only ticked it "just in case" like if curcumstances ever changed, etc.

Would I take one if offered tomorrow? No. And I'm sure most who ticked that box are the same.

you must get loads of junk mail in your house mate if you tick boxes on forms for the fun of it! When i went on the waiting list i had to put it in writing to th club, not tick a box!

[lloydiethe1st]

quote from somone on YNWA

If that's the case then fair enough I was just stating what had already been said. Whenever I go to the match with my dad and we drive you're right it doesn't take long for us to get away from the ground and get onto open roads, the only problem is parking, but a decent park and ride system would solve that.

[rob1966]

you must get loads of  you must get loads of junk mail in your house mate if you tick boxes on forms for the fun of it! When i went on the waiting list i had to put it in writing to th club, not tick a box!

I did too, but there is a box on the fancard app where you can go on the waiting list. I'd be surprised if all the people who ticked it actually stumped up the dosh (over £600 in one go) when offered. There's gonna be thousands of those from way outside Merseyside. Once the cost of the travel plus being out of the house for anything up to 15 hours hits home, I bet loads baulk at the idea.

I also personally know 3 lads who have a fancard who ticked the box. These also have a share on season tickets and between them they dont even manage 10 games all season. I'm made up cos it means I get the full season for my half, I doubt they'd take up the offer of a full seasie.

[redman1977]

Or re-explore groundshare.

*runs*

You better be fucking quicker than linford christie       

[mike1975]

If that's the case then fair enough I was just stating what had already been said. Whenever I go to the match with my dad and we drive you're right it doesn't take long for us to get away from the ground and get onto open roads, the only problem is parking, but a decent park and ride system would solve that.

There was talk a while ago of opening up the bootle branch railway to passenger trains again, which is freight only at the moment and building a station near ground. I think this would be a fantastic idea to relieve stress on roads. so lobby mersytravel!

[campioni]

fucking hell if munich can get 73000 or whatever i'm sure we can get 80000

what has that got to do with anything?  bayern munich is the biggest club in germany. the province of bavaria alone has around 12 million people which would be their catchment area.

i'd have agree with nidegmo on the season ticket thing. I put my name on the season ticket waiting list while living in liverpool, and ticked the box on the fancard app form, but since i don't live there anymore i can get to no more than 8-10 games a season. so, if i was offered one i'd have to seriously think about it, but to be honest i'm happy enough with PTS, because i can choose which games i want to go to.

[boyham]

They should send out letters to fans asking if they are still intested, they can at least get a slightly more realistic number from that.

[MBL?]

Does this explain the 22,000 new kop capacity that was talked about by the architect?

[BHB]

I presume you and the RTK are communicating this to the club?

Not at the minute, no.

But in the future, if discussions take place between the club and RTK over such issues, then my observation / idea will hopefully go foward along with plenty of others made from across the fanbase.

Cross that bridge when we 'hopefully' come to it...

[nidgemo]

you must get loads of  you must get loads of junk mail in your house mate if you tick boxes on forms for the fun of it! When i went on the waiting list i had to put it in writing to th club, not tick a box!

Well, i'll not tick a box saying "can we send you a load of shite?" but I'll certainly tick one saying "might you want a LFC season ticket at some time in the future, tick here"

(of course, that not what it ACTUALLY said, but it amounts to the same thing. It just said "to be added to the season ticket waiting list, tick here"

[Ste G]

My mum is on the waiting list, so is my sister. I also know of 3 people who are on the list who don't even live in this country anymore and another who has since got married, moved away and had kids. That's 7 people who are on the list would definitely not take up the option of having a season ticket.

Thousands more will be in the same boat, or a similar boat.

[mike1975]

If you fancy a laugh watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHTM-abNEyk

it's after the barca game

[Fowllah]

Getting a ticket can be such a pain in the arse sometimes that peole can't be bothered with the hassle, so my bet is if a season ticket is there people will take up the chance.

[mike1975]

Not you're fault mate, well done for not seeing that type of stupid comment - it means people don't think like that as much anymore.

I have to admit, I missed it until BHB picked up on it.

You'll be suprised there's more people think that way than you can imagine. Your just loosing touch!

[mike1975]

I

Getting a ticket can be such a pain in the arse sometimes that peole can't be bothered with the hassle, so my bet is if a season ticket is there people will take up the chance.

totally agree, phone lines are shit and constantly busy, massive queues at office and online well if your not on quick enough well forget it

[red73]

I think the argument of wether we could fill an 80k stadium comes down to ticket prices. The club already realise they can happily drop prices down to £10 for CL qualifiers which bring in currently a 44k full house. Same would just apply to league games. Tickets for matches now don't command a premium and i wouldn't really class the 'reds bar' as an experience. Hicks,gillet and the USA are all about entertainment and service. For 40k of supporters on matchdays now the only prematch entertainment is a pint in a very overcrowded pub or a long wait for a hotdog inside. Pretty rubbish really.

I'd expect a tiered ticket/service price to come in. 40-60k of tickets to go to the core support that we are guaranteed on todays support who'll easily pay £30-£35 to watch the game. Plus another 10k who'll pay a bit extra and 10k who'll gain cheaper entry. Wigan currently change their ticket prices on a number of factors depending on how successful the team are doing, crowd expectation etc. I can see LFC offering a flexible pricing structure that will hopefully full the stadium week in week out. The moans about thousands of empty seats for carling cup games has never been solved since the initiation of the competition, and only ever will be resolved with dirt cheap tickets. Even then the logistics of getting 80k of support for a midweek cup game go against the competition. More the opportunity to give a few k of tickets to local schools.
The Hicks,Gillet plan is about growth as well. even if we only have a fanbase to fill 60k in 2 years time, who's to say once we start winning a few league titles that 80k attendances wont be the norm? Whatever we have as a club and fanbase also needs regeneration to take us into the next era.

Sky sports regenerated english football as a whole in the 90's and bought people back to the game, let LFC take club supportship to a new level for the next 20 years..

[mike1975]

I presume you and the RTK are communicating this to the club?

Am i right in believing carlsberg sponsership deal is up and the end of season and that thy only signed a 1 year extension for 2 million for this season?

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

Well, I can finally get a season ticket with a few mates now, anyway...if that's the case.  Can't be arsed waiting 12 years or so.

Precisely, that's what will drive it.  The waiting list may be over inflated and out-dated, but the prospect of groups of mates all being able to get STs together will ensure that the demand for additional STs is well over 30K. 

[BrianFantana]

if i knew i could just turn up and pay on the gate i'd give up me season ticket. would find it alot easier to find the money on the day if ive got a bit spare rather than trying to find £600+ when summer holidays are approaching!

[mike1975]

I think the argument of wether we could fill an 80k stadium comes down to ticket prices. The club already realise they can happily drop prices down to £10 for CL qualifiers which bring in currently a 44k full house. Same would just apply to league games. Tickets for matches now don't command a premium and i wouldn't really class the 'reds bar' as an experience. Hicks,gillet and the USA are all about entertainment and service. For 40k of supporters on matchdays now the only prematch entertainment is a pint in a very overcrowded pub or a long wait for a hotdog inside. Pretty rubbish really.

I'd expect a tiered ticket/service price to come in. 40-60k of tickets to go to the core support that we are guaranteed on todays support who'll easily pay £30-£35 to watch the game. Plus another 10k who'll pay a bit extra and 10k who'll gain cheaper entry. Wigan currently change their ticket prices on a number of factors depending on how successful the team are doing, crowd expectation etc. I can see LFC offering a flexible pricing structure that will hopefully full the stadium week in week out. The moans about thousands of empty seats for carling cup games has never been solved since the initiation of the competition, and only ever will be resolved with dirt cheap tickets. Even then the logistics of getting 80k of support for a midweek cup game go against the competition. More the opportunity to give a few k of tickets to local schools.
The Hicks,Gillet plan is about growth as well. even if we only have a fanbase to fill 60k in 2 years time, who's to say once we start winning a few league titles that 80k attendances wont be the norm? Whatever we have as a club and fanbase also needs regeneration to take us into the next era.

Sky sports regenerated english football as a whole in the 90's and bought people back to the game, let LFC take club supportship to a new level for the next 20 years..

But we ain't wigan though mate, the reason they do that is cos they can't sell tickets for love nor money at one stage under 16 was only a quid. The only time they've come close to filling the jjb was when they played us!

[¡Basta Ya!]

If you fancy a laugh watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHTM-abNEyk

it's after the barca game

Am i right in believing carlsberg sponsership deal is up and the end of season and that thy only signed a 1 year extension for 2 million for this season?

You seem to think that this is some all-in-one thread where it's ok to talk about any old random thing  you like.

You nutter.

[mike1975]

bu

if i knew i could just turn up and pay on the gate i'd give up me season ticket. would find it alot easier to find the money on the day if ive got a bit spare rather than trying to find £600+ when summer holidays are approaching!

t 600 quid over the year works out cheaper, just save or pay on a barclaycard it's interest free for a season ticket

[mike1975]

di

You seem to think that this is some all-in-one thread where it's ok to talk about any old random thing  you like.

You nutter.

you watch it though? i don't think you can talk about anything somebody mentioned carslberg and tents outside ground like in germany. was trying to make point that they won't be involved

[red73]

But we ain't wigan though mate, the reason they do that is cos they can't sell tickets for love nor money at one stage under 16 was only a quid. The only time they've come close to filling the jjb was when they played us!

The point was more to express the pricing model. And that clubs need to be reflective of potential and expected crowd attendance. LFC like any other club has fair weather supporters, wont take long for a few thousand supporters not to bother attending if we are on bad run. The club need to approach each game on the premise of filling the stadium.

[mike1975]

but

But we ain't wigan though mate, the reason they do that is cos they can't sell tickets for love nor money at one stage under 16 was only a quid. The only time they've come close to filling the jjb was when they played us!

The point was more to express the pricing model. And that clubs need to be reflective of potential and expected crowd attendance. LFC like any other club has fair weather supporters, wont take long for a few thousand supporters not to bother attending if we are on bad run. The club need to approach each game on the premise of filling the stadium.

if you buy a season ticket the club has your money anyway.

[Trousers]

There was talk a while ago of opening up the bootle branch railway to passenger trains again, which is freight only at the moment and building a station near ground. I think this would be a fantastic idea to relieve stress on roads. so lobby mersytravel!

And who is going to pay for that, they will have to build a station at the bottom of ince avenue by the cemetary gates, then they will have to find and pay for an operator to run it, then they will face objections by local residents. It's not just slap up a station open up a line and away you go.

Also it's not cheap to open up a station i'm not sure on the figures but could someone tell me how much the southquay station cost and how much it cost to refurbish Hunts Cross. I'm sure it was pretty steep.

[mike1975]

If we get the 80000 capacity there will be more season tickets and you would think they'll increase the membership of the P.T.S scheme. In doing this, it will generate more revenue as it's 50 quid to join and there are people on a waiting list to join this as well

[mike1975]

The line is st

And who is going to pay for that, they will have to build a station at the bottom of ince avenue by the cemetary gates, then they will have to find and pay for an operator to run it, then they will face objections by local residents. It's not just slap up a station open up a line and away you go.

Also it's not cheap to open up a station i'm not sure on the figures but could someone tell me how much the southquay station cost and how much it cost to refurbish Hunts Cross. I'm sure it was pretty steep.

The line is still open but only to freight traffic so why would the residents object when freight trains go up and down all day to the docks? If a station is built it would also improve transport links to the city centre for the local community! The operator would probably be northern trains. What's your idea?

[anfieldanfield]

Realistically, if the plans for an 80,000 seater come to pass, we're looking at another 3-5 years at Anfield.

We may as well wait a bit now and get it right in the long term though.

If done correctly, an 80,000 seater stadium would look superb.

[BrianFantana]

didn't realise barclaycard done that! worth looking into.
but i think at the moment the demand for a ticket is high and although prices are too high in my opinion. the heart rules the head and you find it. but if tickets are easily obtainable at the new stadium then the need for a season ticket would not be as high and as a result more people would just turn up to watch a game when it suited. at the moment to get to a game planning begins 2 months in advance of it! + the fact that having a season ticket gives u no real benefit to tickets for cup finals/ big games ect. anymore as a fancard gives u the same loyalty if u pick the right games in a season and there would be no massive benefit to having one at the new stadium. would be just like paying in on the old kop with a few mates.

[boyham]

^ whats wrong with that?

I think researching how many people would actually get a season ticket is important, but if not, just make it 80,000.  Could always close the top sections of the ground for the shite games.

[Raul!]

How much does an ST cost?  Cheers

[boyham]

600 and something I think mate, although I dont have one.

[mike1975]

B

didn't realise barclaycard done that! worth looking into.
but i think at the moment the demand for a ticket is high and although prices are too high in my opinion. the heart rules the head and you find it. but if tickets are easily obtainable at the new stadium then the need for a season ticket would not be as high and as a result more people would just turn up to watch a game when it suited. at the moment to get to a game planning begins 2 months in advance of it! + the fact that having a season ticket gives u no real benefit to tickets for cup finals/ big games ect. anymore as a fancard gives u the same loyalty if u pick the right games in a season and there would be no massive benefit to having one at the new stadium. would be just like paying in on the old kop with a few mates.

ut season ticket holders can sign up to get the cup game tickets automatically nobody else can!

[a glass of wine Sir?]

^ whats wrong with that?

I think researching how many people would actually get a season ticket is important, but if not, just make it 80,000.  Could always close the top sections of the ground for the shite games.

I mentioned earlier, that is what the mancs do if they only have 65'000 or 70'00, they cordon off some areas of seating right at the top of the stadium, it doesn't affect any of the atmosphere.

[Rushian]

Has anyone pointed out Radio City has an appalling record of being accurate?

[Kaizer]

mike1975 whats up with the quoting?

[Juan Loco]

Forgive me for being totally naive... but what's to suggest that the majority of the tickets wouldn't be significantly slashed in price, like they are in Germany or even the Mestalla and Camp Nou? If you cut down the ticket prices in certain areas to say £20, you're going to get alot more people coming, and you're going to make a healthy profit, surely?

Oh well...

[Brian Blessed]

This really shows the difference between G&H and someone like Roman. He spends on the club for the here and now. G&H are planning for the next 100 years.

This size stadium will be beneficial because it might not sell out for lesser games. So they can sell tickets day of at a discount for cash (maybe). It's fantastic, and it's needed.

And there may only 10,000 real season ticket holders on the list of 56,000, but in three years when we've gone on to greater success, and in 10 years when we're eclipsing everyone, that'll rise.