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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2018, 03:38:27 pm »
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« Reply #41 on: April 9, 2021, 12:20:30 am »
I'm about to start a renovation of a 2 bed 1 bathroom flat that I'm going to move into. I need to get myself a new combi boiler and was wondering if there are any boiler engineers on here who could recommend one? A little research tells me I should probably go for a 24w combi boiler but there are quite a few manufacturers and models that vary in price by quite a bit. Is it worth shelling out a bit more? And any websites that offer competitive prices?

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« Reply #42 on: April 9, 2021, 07:00:53 am »
Needed a new one myself this winter due to my previous one packing up. My landlord went for a 25kw Eco Compact by Main. Far from an expert, but I understand that it's a good quality option with value for money in mind. Main are a subsidiary of Baxi so it therefore shares a lot of internal parts with Baxi's equivalent model.
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #43 on: April 9, 2021, 07:53:31 am »
We had this one installed about 3 years ago on the recommend of our heating engineer - https://www.intergasheating.co.uk/consumer/products/eco-rf/eco-rf-24/

We're in a two bed house and it's been great. 10 year guarantee as well as long as you do the yearly service, which y'know, should be doing regardless.

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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2021, 12:55:07 pm »
Have an old heating system with 8mm pipes. Had kitchen replaced in January and updated radiator.

After install, a couple of radiators stopped working but engineer managed to get them back up.

Yesterday, I have had new valves / thermostats installed on radiators. When they fired the system back up there was same issue with those radiators. They came back today and flushed them manually and one is now working and one isn’t.

The one in dining room is stone cold but pipes down to it are semi hot. They say it may fix itself but if not then they need to replace piping. That seems extreme as would need to lift carpet and floor boards.

I haven’t paid them yet but after some advice.
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2021, 01:09:01 pm »
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2021, 02:09:54 pm »
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2021, 07:22:29 pm »
Obviously try the bonjela first, but if that doesn't work and Giggs is unavailable, here are some suggestions that have occasionally worked for me. Bear in mind I am not a plumber:
  • Bleed all the radiators not just the ones that aren't working. You might need to repeat this over a few days if there is an airlock shifting around.
  • Open and close the TRV on the dodgy radiator a few times or remove it altogther and press the pin in a little bit to see if it is sticking.
  • TRVs always used to be fitted on the flow pipe (the one that normally feels slightly hotter) but modern 2-way TRVs are supposed to work on either. However I have one radiator on microbore pipe that has a two-way TRV (has two arrows marked on it) on it the return pipe which doesn't work - as soon as it is closed even a little bit it clicks and locks out altogether (this rad happens to be a small one, which is probably undersized anyway, so I removed the TRV altogether and it gets hot all the time now). If this is the case with yours the TRV either needs replacing with a working 2-way, moving from the return pipe to the flow pipe or binning off altogether.
The other thing you could ask is whether the system needs rebalancing - sometimes radiators nearer the boiler can rob all the heat from those further away. This can happen if changes have been made to the system without checking the balance afterwards. Balancing means adjusting the lockshields (the non-TRV valves) so that all of the radiators have the same temperature difference (near enough) between the flow and return pipes. Rads nearest the boiler might need the lockshields to be wound in a little bit while those further away might be opened up. It is a pain in the ass job and it can take a while to get it set up properly but there are plenty of Youtube videos showing how its done.

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2021, 07:47:01 pm »
Obviously try the bonjela first, but if that doesn't work and Giggs is unavailable, here are some suggestions that have occasionally worked for me. Bear in mind I am not a plumber:
  • Bleed all the radiators not just the ones that aren't working. You might need to repeat this over a few days if there is an airlock shifting around.
  • Open and close the TRV on the dodgy radiator a few times or remove it altogther and press the pin in a little bit to see if it is sticking.
  • TRVs always used to be fitted on the flow pipe (the one that normally feels slightly hotter) but modern 2-way TRVs are supposed to work on either. However I have one radiator on microbore pipe that has a two-way TRV (has two arrows marked on it) on it the return pipe which doesn't work - as soon as it is closed even a little bit it clicks and locks out altogether (this rad happens to be a small one, which is probably undersized anyway, so I removed the TRV altogether and it gets hot all the time now). If this is the case with yours the TRV either needs replacing with a working 2-way, moving from the return pipe to the flow pipe or binning off altogether.
The other thing you could ask is whether the system needs rebalancing - sometimes radiators nearer the boiler can rob all the heat from those further away. This can happen if changes have been made to the system without checking the balance afterwards. Balancing means adjusting the lockshields (the non-TRV valves) so that all of the radiators have the same temperature difference (near enough) between the flow and return pipes. Rads nearest the boiler might need the lockshields to be wound in a little bit while those further away might be opened up. It is a pain in the ass job and it can take a while to get it set up properly but there are plenty of Youtube videos showing how its done.

Thanks for that - seems some good options to try.

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #49 on: November 2, 2021, 05:43:47 pm »
The lads fitted the pump and valves on Thursday and then two radiators not working after this was done. So they had to come back the following day to sort. Lad back yesterday as heating stopped working fully on Saturday - he’s identified the new problem that they have quoted for and explained it in detail (trusted what he said as actually showed me the part not working)

Would you expect to be charged for Friday and yesterday as issues caused by them?
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #50 on: November 5, 2021, 08:05:55 am »
Has all the work been done on your system by the same people? can see they might just blame the last person.

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #51 on: November 5, 2021, 05:48:22 pm »
Has all the work been done on your system by the same people? can see they might just blame the last person.

Same Company. Same people Thursday and Friday. Then a different lad Monday.

I then had second opinion yesterday who said the quote for new part is bollocks and just a way of making more money (the quote also has a diagnostic fee on it for £42!). They showed me how it is working.

They still haven't invoiced me for the work so not ideal.
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2021, 01:17:29 pm »
Bit of an odd one, friend's gas stove just started burning orange instead of blue. All the burners are clear, just started happening to ALL burners today. Is Putin sending us dirty gas or is there something else a foot?


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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2021, 01:41:13 pm »
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2021, 01:48:39 pm »
https://www.hunker.com/12003355/why-is-my-gas-stove-burning-orange

Would suggest it is burning carbon monoxide which isn't good.

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2021, 02:02:09 pm »
https://www.hunker.com/12003355/why-is-my-gas-stove-burning-orange

Would suggest it is burning carbon monoxide which isn't good.

Yeah I have read similar but strange that there is no obvious sign at the burners as to why. Suggests the problem is under the hood. I'll tell them to get a pro into check

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2021, 08:02:57 am »
Mystery solved and worth noting  ;D My friend had just run a saline solution through a nebuliser for her kid in the kitchen. The salt in the air makes the flame burn orange. All back to normal a few hours later

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Anyone recommend a reputable central heating company to supply & fit a combi boiler?
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2022, 01:37:03 pm »
Hi Folks,

I'm at a loss with my central heating, for the last two years, maybe longer, the radiator in the bathroom has been colder than the hairs on polar bears arse. My mate, who is more DIY savvy than me, initially bled the radiator which didn't work, then took it out, took it downstairs and flushed it through, nothing. We even turned out all the radiators in the house but nothing works.

I've got a fear the floorboards will have to come up, but a couple of people reckon its an airlock, any suggestions or tips please?
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2022, 07:57:57 am »
Anyone recommend a reputable central heating company to supply & fit a combi boiler?
Location - Liverpool L9 
If you haven't found one let me know mate, I know a good bloke.
I'm at a loss with my central heating, for the last two years, maybe longer, the radiator in the bathroom has been colder than the hairs on polar bears arse. My mate, who is more DIY savvy than me, initially bled the radiator which didn't work, then took it out, took it downstairs and flushed it through, nothing. We even turned out all the radiators in the house but nothing works.
I've got one that's the same, I wondered if it's an end tap stuck closed but if you've flushed yours it can't be that. Let me know how you get on otherwise I'll need to call the above guy out also.

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2022, 09:10:09 am »
If you haven't found one let me know mate, I know a good bloke.I've got one that's the same, I wondered if it's an end tap stuck closed but if you've flushed yours it can't be that. Let me know how you get on otherwise I'll need to call the above guy out also.

Will do John, one of the lads has got an idea so if that works I'll keep you informed.
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« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2022, 10:02:50 am »
If you haven't found one let me know mate, I know a good bloke.I've got one that's the same, I wondered if it's an end tap stuck closed but if you've flushed yours it can't be that. Let me know how you get on otherwise I'll need to call the above guy out also.

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That would great if you can send me details please mate

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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2022, 10:07:21 am »
Hi Folks,

I'm at a loss with my central heating, for the last two years, maybe longer, the radiator in the bathroom has been colder than the hairs on polar bears arse. My mate, who is more DIY savvy than me, initially bled the radiator which didn't work, then took it out, took it downstairs and flushed it through, nothing. We even turned out all the radiators in the house but nothing works.

I've got a fear the floorboards will have to come up, but a couple of people reckon its an airlock, any suggestions or tips please?

Has it got one of those thermostatic valve thingies on it? We've got a radiator like that and there is a little needle in the valve that keeps getting stuck. If you unscrew the valve you can fiddle about with the needle and see if it moves, whacking it with something usually works.
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« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2022, 10:16:08 am »
Hi Folks,

I'm at a loss with my central heating, for the last two years, maybe longer, the radiator in the bathroom has been colder than the hairs on polar bears arse. My mate, who is more DIY savvy than me, initially bled the radiator which didn't work, then took it out, took it downstairs and flushed it through, nothing. We even turned out all the radiators in the house but nothing works.

I've got a fear the floorboards will have to come up, but a couple of people reckon its an airlock, any suggestions or tips please?

did the radiator in the bathroom ever get hot? if so could be an airlock. or if its an old type radiator/system then the radiator in the bathroom could be filled with sludge (deposits from the copper/radiator iron from the system) which means water can't get in.

Could also be the pipe run, if its the last radiator in the lineout of all the radiators in your house might be getting a lesser supply, especially if the pipes are smaller in diameter (eg. 16mm rather than 22mm)

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« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2022, 03:34:07 pm »
Hi John C,
That would great if you can send me details please mate
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Re: Any plumbers? Central Heating advice?
« Reply #66 on: July 1, 2023, 09:40:10 pm »
Hi, have a Mira shower I think was installed when the house was built in 2004, think it's a Select model. Cold pressure is fine and hot pressure ids great in the other shower, but there's no hot pressure in this one and it takes 2 minutes to get warm. Is it the pump needs replacing? Cheers



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