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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #520 on: July 27, 2011, 04:21:22 pm »
There are actually people on here defending Fox news? Oh my. Even the Daily Mail looks left in comparison. Its the Republican News for Gun Toting Yeehars.
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« Reply #521 on: August 11, 2011, 01:55:21 pm »
Long but worthwhile....

Roger Ailes and the rise of Fox News

Even Rupert Murdoch is afraid of Roger Ailes, the paranoid boss of Fox News. But 'the Chairman' is using his power to make Americans more rightwing, more ignorant and ever more terrified

    Tim Dickinson
    guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 10 August 2011 20.00 BST
   


Fox News chairman Roger Ailes. Photograph: James Leynse/ James Leynse/CORBIS SABA

At the Fox News Chrismas party the year the network overtook arch-rival CNN in the cable ratings, tipsy employees were herded down to the basement of a midtown bar in New York. As they gathered around a television mounted high on the wall, an image flashed to life, glowing bright in the darkened tavern: the MSNBC logo. A chorus of boos erupted among the Fox faithful. The CNN logo followed, and the catcalls multiplied. Then a third slide appeared, with a telling twist. In place of the logo for Fox News was a beneficent visage: the face of the network's founder. The man known to his fiercest loyalists simply as "the Chairman" – Roger Ailes.

"It was as though we were looking at Mao," recalls Charlie Reina, a former Fox News producer. The Foxistas went wild. They let the dogs out. Woof! Woof! Woof! Even those who disliked the way Ailes runs his network joined in the display of fealty, given the culture of intimidation at Fox News. "It's like the Soviet Union or China: People are always looking over their shoulders," says a former executive with the network's parent, News Corp. "There are people who turn people in."

The key to decoding Fox News isn't hosts Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity. It isn't even News Corp chief Rupert Murdoch. To understand what drives Fox News, and what its true purpose is, you must first understand Chairman Ailes. "He is Fox News," says Jane Hall, a Fox commentator for 10 years, who defected over Ailes's embrace of the fear-mongering Glenn Beck. "It's his vision. It's a reflection of him."

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #522 on: August 11, 2011, 02:50:24 pm »
What goes up...
The sky does not know of east or of west;
it is in the minds of men where such distinctions are made, and then they believe them to be true.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #523 on: August 11, 2011, 04:00:27 pm »
Frightening. Didn't realise that the murdochs despised Ailes as much as that either.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #524 on: August 11, 2011, 04:10:04 pm »
The full article the Guardian one is cut from is here ..  http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?page=1
Has a few other bits in it.
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #525 on: August 11, 2011, 08:22:06 pm »
Frightening. Didn't realise that the murdochs despised Ailes as much as that either.

I doubt they genuinely despise him.
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« Reply #526 on: August 11, 2011, 08:50:51 pm »
I'm not entirely convinced Fox News isn't just one huge parody--that those behind the scenes are just having a laugh at people who actually follow it religiously.  Unfortunately, the punchline is entirely unfunny.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #527 on: August 11, 2011, 10:58:01 pm »
What Fox are doing to the Obama administration is so dangerous. They're essentially recruiting masses of discontent to believe in myths that Obama is anti-American, anti-white, pro-Muslim. This is just toxic.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #529 on: August 12, 2011, 02:44:17 am »
I doubt they genuinely despise him.

Do you have some extra info or are you just speculating my fellow democrat loving friend?

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« Reply #530 on: August 12, 2011, 03:05:09 am »
Do you have some extra info or are you just speculating my fellow democrat loving friend?

Pure speculation.
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« Reply #531 on: August 12, 2011, 03:07:05 am »
Pure speculation.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #532 on: August 12, 2011, 03:12:22 am »
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

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« Reply #533 on: August 12, 2011, 03:18:18 am »
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #534 on: October 4, 2011, 10:06:20 pm »
Never aired...I wonder why.  :)



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« Reply #535 on: October 4, 2011, 10:11:28 pm »
Never aired...I wonder why.  :)

He was pretty impressive.

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« Reply #536 on: October 5, 2011, 05:13:59 am »
He was pretty impressive.

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« Reply #537 on: November 21, 2011, 11:36:02 pm »
Study Shows Fox News Viewers Less Informed on Major Stories

University Prof: No news better than Fox News when it comes to information.

By Josh Voorhees | Posted Monday, Nov. 21, 2011,


Quick, were Egyptian protesters successful in their bid to overthrow longtime president Hosni Mubarak earlier this year?

According to a new poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University, if you watch Fox News you are significantly less likely to know the correct answer to that question than if you mostly avoid news shows and newspapers all together.

After controlling for factors like partisanship, education, and other demographic factors, the pollsters found that Fox New viewers were 18 points less likely to know that the revolt was successful than their non-active news consuming counterparts. Fox News viewers were also 6 points less likely to know that the Syrian uprising has yet to succeed.

"Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other groups being more likely to watch Fox News," said Dan Cassino, a Fairleigh Dickinson political science professor who took part in the analysis of the PublicMind data. "Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all."

The poll surveyed 612 adult residents of New Jersey (insert Snooki joke here), asking them where they got their news from in the previous week and then a handful of questions about current events. (The survey was taken last month, so the current Egyptian protests that broke out in recent days could not have added to the confusion). Respondents were given 12 possible news options: NPR, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, a Sunday morning political news show, a national newspaper like the New York Times or USA Today, a political blog or news website, a national news broadcast, CNN, MSNBC, a talk radio show, a local newspaper, a local television news broadcast and Fox News.

For comparison, other media sources appeared to boost respondents' knowledge. From the PublicMind report:

    [P]eople who report reading a national newspaper like The New York Times or USA Today are 12-points more likely to know that Egyptians have overthrown their government than those who have not looked at any news source. And those who listen to the non-profit NPR radio network are 11-points more likely to know the outcome of the revolt against Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. However, the best informed respondents are those that watched Sunday morning news programs: leading to a 16- point increase in the likelihood of knowing what happened in Egypt and an 8-point increase in the likelihood of knowing what happened in Syria.

One more interesting conclusion from the report (conducted Oct. 17 through Oct. 23 before Newt Gingrich's recent rise):

    Only 55% of New Jerseyans are able to name correctly either Mitt Romney or Herman Cain as the Republican candidates most recently leading in the polls, with 37% saying that Romney is ahead, and 18% saying that Cain is. Watching Fox News didn't help or hurt respondents on this question. MSNBC, however, helped: Watching MSNBC was associated with a 10-point increase in identifying Romney as the leader, and a 5-point drop in the likelihood of identifying Cain compared to those who got no exposure to news at all.

"Given the amount of time and effort the media spent covering these candidates, the fact that only about half of the public can name one of the front-runners is embarrassing," Cassino said. "The fact that Fox News, the preferred media outlet for many of the candidates, doesn't do better in informing viewers is very surprising."

Fox News, however, wasn't the only cable news network to confuse some of its viewers. Watching MSNBC, for instance, was associated with a 10-point increase in the likelihood of misidentifying the Occupy Wall Street protesters as predominantly Republican.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #538 on: November 21, 2011, 11:49:47 pm »
Dont need studies to tell us that Corky ;)
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #539 on: November 22, 2011, 12:38:10 am »
Study Shows Fox News Viewers Less Informed on Major Stories
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« Reply #541 on: December 6, 2011, 12:56:40 am »
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #542 on: December 6, 2011, 01:02:26 am »
These people are share one brain. Clearly someone left it at home ...

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #543 on: December 6, 2011, 01:45:30 am »
WOW.    :shocked    Just f*cking WOW!

They spout on about indoctrination, and misleading viewers, but the word IRONY, is most definately not in their vocabulary.



On one level, I want to piss myself laughing, yet the sheer shocking truth is that a whole new generation of Americans (and further afield, who watch this network), are being brainwashed into thinking this is how the world works.


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« Reply #544 on: December 6, 2011, 05:04:59 pm »
I can beat that.

The US Supreme Court is going to have a look at Obamacare so naturally certain people would like if Obama appointed judges recused (ruled themselves out due to conflict etc). Fox did this...

Fox Cites Non-Existent Part Of The Constitution To Hype Argument For Kagan Recusal

November 16, 2011 11:19 am ET by Adam Shah

For the second day in a row, Fox's "straight news" division has hyped the claim that U.S Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan should recuse herself from the case involving the constitutionality of a provision of the Affordable Care Act. Fox pointed to an email Kagan sent to then-Justice Department adviser Laurence Tribe on the day the House of Representatives passed the Affordable Care Act in which Kagan said, "I hear they have the votes, Larry!! Simply amazing."

Legal ethicists have thrown cold water on the argument that Kagan needs to recuse herself over that email. But Fox seems to have an argument that the legal ethicists haven't thought of: Fox national correspondent Steve Centanni said Kagan's recusal may be required by "Article 28 of the Constitution." Fox's graphics department provided the relevant quote from the "U.S. Constitution, Article 28, Sec. 144":

Fox quotes the Constitution

Three glaring problems with this argument: The Constitution has no Article 28, has no Section 144, and does not contain the language quoted.

The Constitution actually contains seven articles, none of which have more than 10 sections. It also has 27 amendments, none of which contain anywhere near 144 sections.

The language Fox quoted from actually comes from a statute passed by Congress, Title 28 of the U.S. Code, Section 455. But that's the very statute legal ethicists have analyzed in finding that Kagan does not need to recuse herself because of the email.

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« Reply #545 on: December 14, 2011, 02:56:43 pm »
How Fox News is helping Barack Obama's re-election bid

Because Fox has put off the best Republican candidates, Barack Obama will be much less vulnerable at the election


        Jonathan Freedland
        guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 13 December 2011 21.00 GMT

Whoever wrote the political rulebook needs to start rewriting it. It used to be an iron maxim that voters' most vital organ was neither their head nor their heart, but their wallet. If they were suffering economically, they'd throw the incumbents out. Yet in Britain a coalition presiding over barely-there growth, rising unemployment and forecasts of gloom stretching to the horizon is holding steady in the opinion polls, while in the US Barack Obama is mired in horrible numbers – except for the ones showing him beating all-comers in the election now less than 11 months away. Even though the US economy is slumped in the doldrums, some of the country's shrewdest commentators make a serious case that Obama could be heading for a landslide victory in 2012.

How to explain such a turnaround? In the United States, at least, there is one compellingly simple, two-word answer: Fox News.

By any normal standards, Obama should be extremely vulnerable. Not only is the economy in bad shape, he has proved to be a much more hesitant, less commanding White House presence than his supporters longed for. And yet, most surveys put him comfortably ahead of his would-be rivals. That's not a positive judgment on the president – whose approval rating stands at a meagre 44% – but an indictment of the dire quality of a Republican field almost comically packed with the scandal-plagued, gaffe-prone and downright flaky. And the finger of blame for this state of affairs points squarely at the studios of Fox News.

It's not just usual-suspect lefties and professional Murdoch-haters who say it, mischievously exaggerating the cable TV network's influence. Dick Morris, veteran political operative and Fox regular, noted the phenomenon himself the other day while sitting on the Fox sofa. "This is a phenomenon of this year's election," he said. "You don't win Iowa in Iowa. You win it on this couch. You win it on Fox News." In other words, it is Fox – with the largest cable news audience, representing a huge chunk of the Republican base – that is, in effect, picking the party's nominee to face Obama next November.

This doesn't work crudely – not that crudely, anyway. Roger Ailes, the Fox boss, does not deliver a newspaper-style endorsement of a single, anointed candidate. Rather, some are put in the sunlight, and others left to moulder in the shade. The Media Matters organisation keeps tabs on what it calls the Fox Primary, measuring by the minute who gets the most airtime. It has charted a striking correlation, with an increase in a candidate's Fox appearances regularly followed by a surge in the opinion polls. Herman Cain and Rick Perry both benefited from that Fox effect, with Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker, the latest: in the days before he broke from the pack, Gingrich topped the Fox airtime chart. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney cannot seem to break through a 20-to-25% ceiling in the polls – hardly surprising considering, as the league table shows, he has never been a Fox favourite.

But it works in a subtler way than the mere degree of exposure. Fox, serving up constant outrage and fury, favours bluster over policy coherence. Its ideal contributor is a motormouth not a wonk, someone who makes good TV rather than good policy. Little wonder it fell for Cain and is swooning now for Gingrich – one of whom has never held elected office while the other messed up when he did, but who can talk and talk – while it has little interest in Romney and even less in Jon Huntsman, even though both have impressive records as state governors. The self-described conservative journalist Andrew Sullivan says that the dominant public figures on the right are no longer serving politicians, but "provocative, polarising media stars" who serve up enough controversy and conflict to keep the ratings high. "In that atmosphere, you need talk-show hosts as president, not governors or legislators."

Fox News and what Sullivan calls the wider "Media Industrial Complex" have not only determined the style of the viable Republican presidential candidate, but the content too. If one is to flourish rather than wither in the Fox spotlight, there are several articles of faith to which one must subscribe – from refusing to believe in human-made climate change, and insisting that Christians are an embattled minority in the US, persecuted by a liberal, secular, bi-coastal elite, to believing that government regulation is always wrong, and that any attempt to tax the wealthiest people is immoral. Those who deviate are rapidly branded foreign, socialist or otherwise un-American.

Some wonder if it was fear of this ultra-conservative catechism that pushed a series of Republican heavyweights to sit out 2012. "The talent pool got constricted," says David Frum, the former George W Bush speechwriter who has been boldest in speaking out against the Foxification of his party. Fox sets a series of litmus tests that not every Republican can or wants to pass.

This affects those who run as well as those who step aside, setting the parameters within which a Republican candidate must operate. What troubles Frum is that it pushes Republicans to adopt positions that will make them far less appealing to the national electorate in November, with Romney's forced march rightward typical. Even if Romney somehow wins the nomination, he won't be "the pragmatic, problem-solving Mitt Romney" of yore, says Frum, but a new Foxified version. It was this process that led the former speechwriter to declare last year: "Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us – and now we're discovering we work for Fox."

So far, so bad for the Republicans. Why should anyone else care? Because the Fox insistence on unbending ideological correctness turns every compromise – a necessary staple of governance – into an act of treachery. The Republican refusal, cheered on by a Fox News chorus, to raise the US debt ceiling this summer, thereby prompting the downgrading of America's credit rating, is only the most vivid example. The larger pattern is one of stubborn, forced gridlock, paralysing the republic even now, at a moment of global economic crisis.

The problem is compounded by a wilful blindness towards the facts. Ari Rabin-Havt of Media Matters says Fox has created a "post-truth politics", which is happy to ignore and distort basic empirical evidence. To take one example, Fox pundits constantly repeat that "53% of Americans pay all the tax". In fact, 53% pay all the federal income tax – but many, many more pay so-called payroll taxes. It's hard for a nation to make the right policy decisions if the public is misled on the basic facts. And misled they certainly are. A series of surveys has proven that Fox viewers are woefully ignorant of current affairs, the latest study revealing that it is actually better to consume no news than to watch Fox: you end up better informed.

The extremism, anger, paranoia and sense of victimhood that Fox incubates are all unhealthy for the United States. But it's inflicting particular damage on the Republican party, which could well lose a winnable election because of its supine relationship to a TV network. It turns out it is not liberals who should fear the Fox – it's conservatives.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #546 on: December 14, 2011, 02:57:46 pm »
Hahahaha, read that last night - knew you were going to post it
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #547 on: December 14, 2011, 03:03:52 pm »
Just read that. Loved this line:

A series of surveys has proven that Fox viewers are woefully ignorant of current affairs, the latest study revealing that it is actually better to consume no news than to watch Fox: you end up better informed.
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« Reply #548 on: December 14, 2011, 03:08:26 pm »
Just read that. Loved this line:

A series of surveys has proven that Fox viewers are woefully ignorant of current affairs, the latest study revealing that it is actually better to consume no news than to watch Fox: you end up better informed.

It's already on this page!.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #549 on: December 14, 2011, 03:49:31 pm »
Bored of manufactured consent

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« Reply #550 on: December 15, 2011, 01:36:12 pm »
Laughable really.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #551 on: December 16, 2011, 02:44:52 pm »



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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #552 on: December 16, 2011, 02:56:21 pm »
I don't do polite so fuck yoursalf with your stupid accusations...

Right you fuckwit I will show you why you are talking out of your fat arse...

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #553 on: December 16, 2011, 03:29:25 pm »
Second image doesn't load for me.
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #554 on: December 16, 2011, 03:34:06 pm »
Second image doesn't load for me.

It's an array of the GOP contenders except they've put Obama's picture over the name Romney.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #555 on: December 16, 2011, 03:39:42 pm »
Heh.
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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #556 on: December 16, 2011, 03:59:24 pm »
Laughable really.

On the prospect of Ron Paul winning in Iowa - “Well, and the Ron Paul people aren’t going to like me saying this, but, to a certain degree, it will discredit the Iowa caucuses because, rightly or wrongly, I think most of the Republican establishment thinks he is not going to end up as the nominee. So, therefore, Iowa won’t count and it will go on.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-if-ron-paul-wins-in-iowa-it-will-discredit-the-iowa-caucuses/

How dare a news analyst accurately analyse the news

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #557 on: December 17, 2011, 10:08:39 pm »
Fox is just as bad as other news sources, their bias is just with the other party.

It's like my friends reading the Huffingpaint Post to get news. Can't trust any of them, really.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #558 on: January 6, 2012, 05:59:53 pm »
FOX NEWS, you just gotta love their profesionalism.

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Re: Fox News - still lying to the planet.
« Reply #559 on: January 6, 2012, 06:00:50 pm »
I know, Serbia is just one extra character. Amateurs.
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