Topic: 70,000 capacity

[Ste G]

And who's to say ticket prices won't continue to rise pricing more and more people out? Plus there's probably going to be even more football on tv and if ticket prices remain high people will stay at home.

A lot of people are already getting pissed off with the prices and the overall state of football. Of course it'd be nice to have the option of future expansion but it's maybe not that big an issue.

[Fowllah]

If whether we regularly fill the stadium is the question, I know I will be there and many other wools

[Ned Kelly]

The more wools the better if it means filling the stadium. Having a stadium totally filled with Scousers would be the ideal scenario    but I have no problem with people from ouside the city ( Kirby , Huyton , Bootle , Birkenhead , Skem , Ellesmere Port , hell even southerners  ) and further afield aswell as long as they respect the tradition of the club.

KFS

[soueyg]

Have a walk through Bootle, Kirkby or Huyton and call someone a wool, go on I dare you.

[Ste G]

The more wools the better if it means filling the stadium. Having a stadium totally filled with Scousers would be the ideal scenario   but I have no problem with people from ouside the city ( Kirby , Huyton , Bootle , Birkenhead , Skem , Ellesmere Port , hell even southerners  ) and further afield aswell as long as they respect the tradition of the club.

KFS

What about the Scousers who wouldn't know what tradition and respect were if they came up and smacked them in the face?

[Ned Kelly]

What about the Scousers who wouldn't know what tradition and respect were if they came up and smacked them in the face?

Have a walk through Bootle, Kirkby or Huyton and call someone a wool, go on I dare you.

I think you need a geography lesson mate.Them areas are not Liverpool - FACT.
I suppose Jason McAteer was a scouser as well eh?

[Ste G]

I think you need a geography lesson mate.Them areas are not Liverpool - FACT.

They are only outside of Liverpool in terms of governmental control and pointless census data. They are as much a part of Liverpool as Anfield or Toxteth. Liverpool is a big city.

Going by the same argument, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Fulham, Charlton and West Ham aren't part of London.

[Ned Kelly]

They are only outside of Liverpool in terms of governmental control and pointless census data. They are as much a part of Liverpool as Anfield or Toxteth. Liverpool is a big city.

Going by the same argument, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Fulham, Charlton and West Ham aren't part of London.

You may think you are as much of a part of the city if you live in them areas  but you will find the view is very different amongst those who are REAL scousers ( Anfield , Kenny,Croccy,Dingle etc etc)

Anyway my point is that it dosn't really matter matter where you come from as long as the 'sold out' signs go up.

[soueyg]

So only people who live within the city boundary are scousers? I was born in Town and lived at Gerard Crescent until I was 15 and then moved to Kirkby, are you telling me I'm not a scouser?

What a thick little blert. I blame the parents.

[Ned Kelly]

So only people who live within the city boundary are scousers? I was born in Town and lived at Gerard Crescent until I was 15 and then moved to Kirkby, are you telling me I'm not a scouser?

What a thick little blert. I blame the parents.

If you where born in Town then you have answered your own question soft lad.

[soueyg]

The majority of people who live in Kirkby were born in town, or are relatives of someone who was, you pratt.

You're just using a silly council border created in the seventies to feel superior, when really you're just making a dick out of yourself.

[Ned Kelly]

The majority of people who live in Kirkby were born in town, or are relatives of someone who was, you pratt.

You're just using a silly council border created in the seventies to feel superior, when really you're just making a dick out of yourself.

Chill out will ya.  Kirby Wools are welcome  at Anfield as far as I'm concerned , just don't put the name of your town on a flag.

KFS

[soueyg]

Good grief, and I thought it was just the bitters who had thick neanderthal fans...

Next time you're in the KOP with your sad banners about how much of a real scouser you are, I dare you to stand up and shout "Kirkby and Huyton are full of wools" go on, tough guy, I double dare you.

[Ned Kelly]

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Images/merseyside_boundaries_tcm21-21783.gif

The 5 boundaries of Merseyside. Wirral Scousers rule ok. 

[RedinToronto]

I personally don;t understand why we would apend all this money building this stadium which will only add 15,000 extra seats and not allow us to expand it further in size later on. It seems like a poor plan to me and I think we should just expand Anfield somehow.

[ttnbd]

It seems like a poor plan to me and I think we should just expand Anfield somehow.

Oh the irony

[Ned Kelly]

I personally don;t understand why we would apend all this money building this stadium which will only add 15,000 extra seats and not allow us to expand it further in size later on. It seems like a poor plan to me and I think we should just expand Anfield somehow.

    

[RedinToronto]

Sure my plan's shit too, but there's got to be some way we can stay in Anfield!!!

[casso36]

So will it mean all us poor fu ckers!!! on ST Waiting list will get Season Tickets??

Hope so Don't fancy waiting another 12 years for mine!!!

[Richie69]

"Design" fees are generally a %age of the total construction cost and architect's fees would be around 5% (plus engineers and project managers). I would think that the additional construction cost would be substantial for an additional 38,000 seats - as swoop says you'd need another tier and a massive increase in the footprint.

I wouldn't have thought the difference would be so much for 10000-30000 seats, theres already severe problems in the design, such as it looking like a bigger version of boltons ground, not close enough to the pitch and with no kop end

Look how much the Sydney Olympic stadium cost to build for example, it can be done, for an extra 15000 seats and no chance of expanding, its not worth it

The Mancs will probably be over 80000 soon

[mikeb58]

The new stadium does have a Kop end, and if the club is to be believed, they have altered the original plans, and designed a huge single tier Kop ( now different and bigger than the opposite goal stand )

[Christoph]

@ Alloy

Do you have a source for that!? I've heard these rumours as well but i fear it could just be a myth..

[Ste G]

@ Alloy

Do you have a source for that!? I've heard these rumours as well but i fear it could just be a myth..

It's been on here loads. Came from Ged Poynton in an interview with radio city.

[Rushian]

We should have news on the latest planning application and what the "new Kop" is like this weekend - someone's being doing some research for us.

[mikeb58]

Nice one, really looking to seeing the latest plans. The ' new  Kop ' is my main concern. Get this right and it'll be easier for me to accept we're leaving Anfield.

[indian magic]

Just read rick parrys interview re the new stadium at  http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2003/oct/8/N142173031008-1130.htm (dont know how old that piece is )  can someone explain what is meant by the term meccano set of four boxes  when he says 

if we submitted a design that was a Meccano-set of four boxes then under no circumstances would that have got planning permission in the park

??

thanks

[Shanklygates]

We should have news on the latest planning application and what the "new Kop" is like this weekend - someone's being doing some research for us.

Excellent. Will look forward to reading about that.

Nice one, really looking to seeing the latest plans. The ' new  Kop ' is my main concern. Get this right and it'll be easier for me to accept we're leaving Anfield.

Me too.

Just read rick parrys interview re the new stadium at  http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2003/oct/8/N142173031008-1130.htm (dont know how old that piece is )  can someone explain what is meant by the term meccano set of four boxes  when he says 

??

thanks

Not certain but think he's referring to the fact that their plans for the aesthetics of the stadium had to adhere to rules set down by English Heritage or something about how it should look - i.e. that it couldn't be bright red all over for example, but that it had to blend in with the parkland around it - hence the decision to go for grey & smoked glass etc.

[richmiller1]

Just read rick parrys interview re the new stadium at  http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2003/oct/8/N142173031008-1130.htm (dont know how old that piece is )  can someone explain what is meant by the term meccano set of four boxes  when he says 

??

thanks

 it simply means that had the club submitted a new stadium design of four seperate 'typical football stands', with no consideration towards the aesthetics of the project as a whole, it wouldn't have stood a chance of receivng planning permission.

[mikeb58]

it simply means that had the club submitted a new stadium design of four separate 'typical football stands', with no consideration towards the aesthetics of the project as a whole, it wouldn't have stood a chance of receiving planning permission.

Yes, well put. In other words a bigger version of our current home wouldn't stand a chance of getting planning permission. Likewise a design similar to any of the big traditional ' 4 sided stadiums ' wouldn't stood a chance of getting built in the park.

Also the English Heritage set down guildlines for the exterior as well. On the original plans the outside of the new stadium had a lot of red brick work, this has all been toned down to grey / darkened glass ( which I quite like )

[S24 LFC]

our kid just got a private plate for his 21st.

P33  KOP

Would be even more gutted if the new gaff doesn't have a Kop   

[CalvinMalteseRed]

our kid just got a private plate for his 21st.

P33  KOP

Would be even more gutted if the new gaff doesn't have a Kop  

If you were to trust Marshy's words:

...the week all us new stadium fans have all been dreaming about with big Echo/Post articles on our fantastic new 60,000+ Anfield, new bigger single tier Kop and (at last) a new re-generated Anfield area (my patch), Press conferences galore, big investment news, buzzing LFC websites.....or am i being too optimistic - is the week going to fizzle out like a wet weekend in Rhyl?

[Jackson_Red]

I think it should be 70,000 capacity not 60,000 (thinking too small here) and with room for further devolpment. I live in northern ireland but travel to watch the reds almost 12 to 15 home games a season. (easyjet has helped this with cheap flights) I know lots of fans who would love to go too but cant get tickets. We have been sold out for every game this season so far! So.....lets buld a BIG new stadium. I have no doubt we can fill 70,000 - any day of the week or against any team! (i remember a quote from field of dreams 'if you build it - they will come') Each time man usa or arse'nal play they will be taking in so much more revenue than us. That in turn buys players. Do we want to be left behind?

[Danny Boys Dad]

Arsenal's new stadium is no bigger than our new one, they make more money because they charge more.

A 70,000 seater stadium would be 1/3 empty for many matches and would probably have had difficulty getting approval because of traffic and infrastructure issues.

[Chivasino]

you pratt.

Nearly spat my drink out...havent heard that one in a while!

[Chivasino]

our kid just got a private plate for his 21st.

P33  KOP

Would be even more gutted if the new gaff doesn't have a Kop   

Mine reads D3 KOP, backward E makes 3....promised that the new stadium will have a Kop.

[S24 LFC]

I think it should be 70,000 capacity not 60,000 (thinking too small here) and with room for further devolpment. I live in northern ireland but travel to watch the reds almost 12 to 15 home games a season. (easyjet has helped this with cheap flights) I know lots of fans who would love to go too but cant get tickets. We have been sold out for every game this season so far! So.....lets buld a BIG new stadium. I have no doubt we can fill 70,000 - any day of the week or against any team! (i remember a quote from field of dreams 'if you build it - they will come') Each time man usa or arse'nal play they will be taking in so much more revenue than us. That in turn buys players. Do we want to be left behind?

United's sales are lookin like they are startin to drop. Demand has dropped. Now general public can get tickets to any united game. There are even corporate tickets on general sale for the game against us. £99 with a meal if you're interested, im not, ill be in with the peasants. I don't expect arsenal to seel out for much of the season. Give it 12 games and sales will drop, especially if they don't have a great season.

[GibletII]

United's sales are lookin like they are startin to drop. Demand has dropped. Now general public can get tickets to any united game. There are even corporate tickets on general sale for the game against us. £99 with a meal if you're interested, im not, ill be in with the peasants. I don't expect arsenal to seel out for much of the season. Give it 12 games and sales will drop, especially if they don't have a great season.

That's right 64,000 season tickets, building a waiting list to see if there's scope to expand to 90,000, a new attendenace record every week.

United are fucked.

[todda]

I do believe it is very short sighted to build a stadium with no room for future development, who knows what the demand will be for tickets in 10-20 years time?
Personally I think 65K would have been a better figure with the option of upping the capacity in future if the demand is there.

[Mal]

We should have news on the latest planning application and what the "new Kop" is like this weekend - someone's being doing some research for us.

Any updates on this Rushian?

Now that the funding is in place I'm keen to know when the club have to publish the final plans they intend to work to during the build?

Also does anyone know whether the club intend to go through a tendering process for the work or have we already appointed a primary contractor?

[BrianL]

i hope we get the builders who rebuilt the mackies' on Queens Drive, the fucker will be up and running by bommy night