Topic: Texas Hold 'Em Poker Tips

[SM Online]

Well that software is obviously allowed seeming as poker sites are affiliated with them, I doubt they would if they considered it was cheating.

I wouldn't use that software though, surely you're better off using you own instincts then becoming overly reliant on a peice of software.

[PaulF]

I wouldn't use that software though, surely you're better off using you own instincts then becoming overly reliant on a peice of software.

During the Korean War, the Navy kill
ratio was twelve-to-one. We shot down
twelve of their jets for every one of
ours. In Vietnam, this ratio fell to
three-to-one. Our pilots depended on
missles. They lost their dogfighting
skills.

The software is the missile. to be honest it'll do for me to have missiles when nobody else does, when others start having missile, I'll need the dogfighting skills. Hopefully I can win money whilst learning to dog fight.

ps. You are holding Qd,10d , the flop comes down 9d, 8h,2d. What odds do you have of making a hand?

[SM Online]

It's no different to writing down what players win on, who raises pre-flop and such like. There's no 'cheat' to it, it's just a record of hands shown pretty much.

What does poker spy do? I thought it just calculated pot odds.

[bradigor]

It's no different to writing down what players win on, who raises pre-flop and such like. There's no 'cheat' to it, it's just a record of hands shown pretty much.

fair enough, maybe I am getting it confused with some og the software available on ebay

[bradigor]

By the way Garreth. PM me let me know how close i was to you little poker teaser

[PaulF]

It doesn't calculate pot odds (as far as I can see), but it does show you the probability of you making your various hands and the probabilities of other people making them. It's trivial to go from there to pot odds.

It also records other hands people have played and flags up what it percieves to be mistakes by them. On the whole I ignore this I do look for a couple of things. People seem to defend blinds to fiercly, so they are worth picking on. Some people never seem to showdown, they are best avoided for a while or seeing if you can cheaply get them to the river and draw some info out of them that way. You can't write down fast enough how a hand was played out so you can use it to bring up a shown down hand and see how it was played.

Mainly though I use it to stop me getting bored and playing daft hands.

[PaulF]

Is there a way to make it keep it's data after a player has left a table?

[PaulF]

That's a shame. Could come in very handy, knowing stuff about a player as soon as a tournament starts. I'll have to buy a notebook

[bez]

I'll limp in with

Player A = dealt 66
Player B = dealt JA


Player B should have bet bigger ofter the river to clear the pot? Absolutely wrong I guess but thats me and poker. You player A?

[niallo27]

Best fold I have ever done - £50 buy in 10 man table. Won't go into the betting but at the start I had 7000 in chips and was chip leader, I folder on the river betting after an all in call on 3000

Me - Ah Ac

Flop - Ad As Jd - I raise then call
Turn - 5c - I check the reraise
River - 10d - I fold after other bloke raises all in

Bearing in mind this was a table full of friends when I was living down south, I show what i folded, everyone ripping me for folding 4 of a Kind Aces. Except the winner of the hand

He decides to show his hand - Kd Qd

He wins a relatrively small pot i am left with a gleaming smile.

Hardest decision i have ever made in poker to date was folding 4 of a Kind Aces. However it paid off. Especially when everything was telling me to call.

PS. Should also point out that the lad i was playing was calling straight away everytime, so an all in move at the flop or the turn would of been called by the way he was playing, he had gone from chip leader to short stack and back again on 3 occasions.

you folded 4 aces, that is the worst fold i ever heard, you have to be taken the piss here.
what were the chances of him having a royal flush with the two whole cards

[PaulF]

One in 650,000

[Hightown Phil]

I reckon both had absoluet fuck all. Kind of.

A pair of fours, and AJ.

[bradigor]

you folded 4 aces, that is the worst fold i ever heard, you have to be taken the piss here.
what were the chances of him having a royal flush with the two whole cards

Well seeing as he did hit the Royal Flush, I would say it was a good fold. As I stated it was the hardest fold I have ever had to make, probably one I would never make again.

Also how the hell is folding a losing hand the worst fold you have ever heard?

[niallo27]

Well seeing as he did hit the Royal Flush, I would say it was a good fold. As I stated it was the hardest fold I have ever had to make, probably one I would never make again.

Also how the hell is folding a losing hand the worst fold you have ever heard?

No offence meant to ya, i just cant see how you can put him on that hand.
If he needed one hole card maybe but the two

[bradigor]

No offence meant to ya, i just cant see how you can put him on that hand.
If he needed one hole card maybe but the two

He had got close on the flop, and was betting like it aswell, he was almostover confident on the river, it is why it took me an age to decidewhat to do. Yes the obvious call is to call him, however something just didn't sit right, so I had to fold, it was in his reactions.

Major tournament at a casino i would call and take the Bad Beat jackpot

[niallo27]

He had got close on the flop, and was betting like it aswell, he was almostover confident on the river, it is why it took me an age to decidewhat to do. Yes the obvious call is to call him, however something just didn't sit right, so I had to fold, it was in his reactions.

Major tournament at a casino i would call and take the Bad Beat jackpot

Ya on spin palace i play on, the table would have shared out 93 grand with about 35 grand going to you

[bradigor]

Ya on spin palace i play on, the table would have shared out 93 grand with about 35 grand going to you

Unfortunately this was some blokes back room, so no bad beat jackpot, just a shit load of abuse had  Iof called and lost

[PaulF]

Ok folks, the answer was player A had 55, Player B had AJ (fairly easy to guess).

I was player B.

So, how do we reckon the respective hands played it? Was it by the book?

I think player B got it right. Although in all fairness he had it easy. He could be pretty sure he wasn't facing a pair of Jacks, so he was in a good position after the flop.
After the turn Player A's bet of £1-50 was 'wrong' ,and this is a great example as it's highlighted what I'd do.
My thought process previously would be.  Hmm, I've got 3x5s, which is pretty good. Player B could be on 3jacks which would beat me. So I'll bet a middle amount of £1-50.
Player B, sees this as a sign of weakness, confirming he's not up against a full house and proceeds to the bounty. ( I might as well have had a big sign on my head saying 3x5s).
What player A should have done after the turn is fold, or put down a huge bet. Even that might not work as to be consistent they should have put down a bigger bet before the turn.

Either way, there's no way I could have figured that lot out in the limited time you have online. Harrington's work should be revisited with a view to making these decisions faster.


All of this ignores bluffing possibilities, but without being at the table and seeing previous play, there's no way we can assign appropriate probabilities.

[bradigor]

Question for Garreth.

During the hand, what (truthfully) did you put him on before he turned

[PaulF]

What did you put him on after the flop too?

[bradigor]

What, before he showed his cards? Two pair at best, really, with J something off the flop a possibility. Either that or a high pair (QQ/KK). Trips was a possibility, but didn't really enter my mind (especially once the second Jack came out).

I was certain I had him beat, anyway. If he'd had AA I'd've cried.

So you played it as per my description.  I had him on the J with (QK) or (10).

[Lo]

Just won with a 44 yey me 

[PaulF]

I was certain I had him beat, anyway. If he'd had AA I'd've cried.

And wondered why the hell he didn't raise before the flop?

more hands, more hands .....

[bradigor]

What, like this little fella?

Jesus James has changed alot over the last couple of weeks

[COR]

Got pokerroom working last night, playing it fonzy for now, entered a free roll of 2000, came 57th, going out was unavoidable, had to go all in with AA pre flop, get called by A Q suited, happy days - dominated, guess which jammy fucker makes the straight. Ah well.

Anyone know, can I use the money I have deposited in Pokerroom on betfair or anywhere else?

[Lo]

Got pokerroom working last night, playing it fonzy for now, entered a free roll of 2000, came 57th, going out was unavoidable, had to go all in with AA pre flop, get called by A Q suited, happy days - dominated, guess which jammy fucker makes the straight. Ah well.

Anyone know, can I use the money I have deposited in Pokerroom on betfair or anywhere else?

You could transfer the money into my poker room account

[bez]

It'll just show them as off the table. If you're asking will it remember the same person if they come back to the table later on (or in another game if you start it up again) then I think the answer is no.

Pokerspy does store data on others, like it stores all yours, it stores all players you play against and when you play them again it shows everything on them.

[Hightown Phil]

Jesus James has changed alot over the last couple of weeks

[Walshy nMe®]

Just payed 45p for this, as no real risk involved.

Will see what is included when I get home.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAMBLING-BETTING-SYSTEMS-YOU-WILL-MAKE-MONEY-TONIGHT_W0QQitemZ330008712441QQihZ014QQcategoryZ47103QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[bradigor]

Tell you what, Walshy, send us a fiver and I can guarantee I'll cut your phone bill by more than 50%*

*this may or may not involve removing SIM card from phone and destroying it

Seriously, though, let us know how it goes

I have often wondered that, you recieve one of these and inside it says..............

Sell this system on ebay for £x and you too will earn money;D

[nidgemo]

Just a query? What is this post doing in the general football and sport board?

[PaulF]

Because it might contain info on playing hold 'em?

[Throxenby]

Just a query? What is this post doing in the general football and sport board?

its a mental sport.

[Lo]

Just a query? What is this post doing in the general football and sport board?

I guess some people see poker as a sport rather than gambling, personally I'm gonna class it as a sport so I can say I partake in exersise most days

[Waterloo Phil]

u ever been the leo casino Lo and played in the tourney there ?

[nidgemo]

Because it's nothing to do with Science, Media, Arts, Liverpool Life, Technology, World Cup, Tickets, European Aways, Liverpool FC, Transfers, or Feedback?

Nor has it anything to do with general football and sport...

just seems strange to have this topic here?

Maybe more at home in off-topic?

[bradigor]

Poker is is classed in the same catogory as Darts or Chess, competition based games

[nidgemo]

Poker is is classed in the same catogory as Darts or Chess, competition based games

a. don't be so silly - darts is a sport, as it requires skill and accuracy.
b. no one calls chess a sport either. It's a board game.

[nidgemo]

Anyway, FWIW, my poker tips...

1. be lucky and get a better hand than everyone else.
2. win the game

The end.

tip 3 secifically for hold em players.

3. stop making up words, talking gibberish and silly terms to make a game of cards seem more interesting.

Turn - he is commited and has to call the re-raise (especially with a 3 of a Kind)
River - he should have seen a possible Full House with the calling and re-raising.

with J something off the flop a possibility. Trips was a possibility

entered a free roll of 2000, came 57th, had to go all in with AA pre flop, get called by A Q suited

should have bet bigger ofter the river to clear the pot

[Waterloo Phil]

a. don't be so silly - darts is a sport, as it requires skill and accuracy.

as does poker , but yes ill give u there is an element of luck involved