Topic: UK General Election - July 4th, here we go folks.

[Ray K]

@NoContextBrits

[PaulF]

If Sunak was deliberately trying to tank the election and have the Tories completely wiped out would it look any different to what he’s actually been doing?

I don’t think any of us could have done a better job of destroying them.

Has he got a massive bet on or something? He plans to make a load of money of out the Tories collapsing like he did when world economy almost totally collapsed?

He's either gone for the short end of a spread bet on Tory seats or bet on under 100. It's the only explanation.
I listened to the 'apology' in the car.  And I'm probably the most tory symapthetic ear on Rawk and even I thought it was a car crash.  Someone did say politicians now just repeat the same thing over to all the questions as they know there will be a soundbite and that's what will be broadcast. But his was word for word.  It could have been AI.  I think it was a sky news interviewer , but even he commented to Rishi, that he sounded more exasperated than sorry. And that's how it came across.  I sort of understand why he might not be there. As head of state , the King being there would be 'sufficient'. 

[PaulF]

Even Truss stayed longer

[filopastry]

This D-day fuck up is good for Labour but, if I was to channel my inner formola, I would say its even better for Reform.

In the short run though even that helps Labour, in the long run its far from ideal

[Kenny's Jacket]

There is a rumour going round that Sunaks Chief SPAD is Dianne Abbott.

[Jiminy Cricket]

He's either gone for the short end of a spread bet on Tory seats or bet on under 100. It's the only explanation.
I listened to the 'apology' in the car.  And I'm probably the most tory symapthetic ear on Rawk and even I thought it was a car crash.  Someone did say politicians now just repeat the same thing over to all the questions as they know there will be a soundbite and that's what will be broadcast. But his was word for word.  It could have been AI.  I think it was a sky news interviewer , but even he commented to Rishi, that he sounded more exasperated than sorry. And that's how it came across.  I sort of understand why he might not be there. As head of state , the King being there would be 'sufficient'.

Most of you have probably already seen it. But for the few like me who hadn't/haven't:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM</a>

He has no political instincts. How did he ever become an MP, let alone PM?

[PaulF]

There is a rumour going round that Sunaks Chief SPAD is Dianne Abbott.

I don't think this can be true. She'd be helping labour too much.

[TepidT2O]

What a day it has been! Election cock up galore!

It’s hard to imagine how they could have done worse isn’t it?  Bravo!!!


Encore!!

[Kenny's Jacket]

Let go of me old man; I'll be late for my interview with ITV.

[Red Beret]

Remember when some Tories thought they could oust Sunak and rescind the election call before parliament was dissolved?

Yeah. They're THAT thick. Stuff like this only confirms it.

The next round of polls is going to be funny as fuck.

[Crosby Nick]

@NoContextBrits

Most of you have probably already seen it. But for the few like me who hadn't/haven't:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM</a>

He has no political instincts. How did he ever become an PM, let alone PM?

I’d not heard of him until he became Chancellor (probably more my own ignorance), but think he got that position just because the amount of resignations and reshuffles in the earlier Johnson era. Maybe just that thing if people being promoted above their level of competence.

[Circa1892]

Still think the Tories will do better than we think - but actually feel he might lose his own seat for this.

[thaddeus]

Most of you have probably already seen it. But for the few like me who hadn't/haven't:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM</a>

He has no political instincts. How did he ever become an PM, let alone PM?

"It's important we don't politicise this"... coming from the Tory party that went in two-footed on Corbyn because his poppy was deemed too small.

[red_Mark1980]

They'd crucify a labour PM for doing this.

I mean Michael Foot anyone? And that was based on the s*ns made up story (Uncle Albert shocked face)

[Red Beret]

I’d not heard of him until he became Chancellor (probably more my own ignorance), but think he got that position just because the amount of resignations and reshuffles in the earlier Johnson era. Maybe just that thing if people being promoted above their level of competence.

Wasn't it Sunak's resignation that triggered Bozo's downfall?

[Crosby Nick]

Wasn't it Sunak's resignation that triggered Bozo's downfall?

Think so. But he only became Chancellor after Javid resigned saying he couldn’t serve under Johnson - I think…been such a farcical few years it’s all a blur at this point!

[Commie Bobbie]

I just can't believe that any Prime Minister would be so fucking dense to think that they could leave commemorations early and it not go down well with anyone.

Apart from the fascists in his own party, probably.

It's bizarre.

[Millie]

Think so. But he only became Chancellor after Javid resigned saying he couldn’t serve under Johnson - I think…been such a farcical few years it’s all a blur at this point!

I think that's right - but like you it's all a terrible blur 

[Red Beret]

Think so. But he only became Chancellor after Javid resigned saying he couldn’t serve under Johnson - I think…been such a farcical few years it’s all a blur at this point!

Agree, I've kind of lost track myself!

I just can't believe that any Prime Minister would be so fucking dense to think that they could leave commemorations early and it not go down well with anyone.

Apart from the fascists in his own party, probably.

It's bizarre.

The irony is that it's the fascists in his own party who should be most offended.

[Yorkykopite]

Most of you have probably already seen it. But for the few like me who hadn't/haven't:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Y3aX78fn0hM</a>

He has no political instincts. How did he ever become an PM, let alone PM?

Today: "This is what you must say as an 'apology' Prime Minister - and you must deviate it from these words."

Yesterday: "This is your itinerary for D-Day Prime Minister - and you must not deviate from this schedule."

 

[Kenny's Jacket]

Wasn't it Sunak's resignation that triggered Bozo's downfall?

I think Javid went first followed by Sunak and this caused a lego effect.

Sunak took the blame from Johnsonites as he was the one who gained from it

[Statto Red]

Best for Britain
@BestForBritain
OH. WOW.😯

Chris Philp's defence of Sunak to
@sarahjolney1
: "Were YOU there yesterday, then?" 😬

A (quite rightly LIVID) Olney: "I'm not the PM. I'm not out there, in a foreign country, representing ALL of us."

This is turning into a bigger mess for Sunak, by the minute. ~AA

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1799069455538155834

[Gerry Attrick]

Where is the one Reform UK seat that they're forecasting?  Frottage or Tice?

30p Lee has a very strong chance in Ashfield. He’s actually very popular locally.

[Dr. Beaker]

I think Javid went first followed by Sunak and this caused a lego effect.

Sunak took the blame from Johnsonites as he was the one who gained from it

I think Javid took the job but almost immediately resigned because Cummings sacked all his team, Sunak was happy to have Cummings' selected back room boys.

[Kenny's Jacket]

I think Javid took the job but almost immediately resigned because Cummings sacked all his team, Sunak was happy to have Cummings' selected back room boys.

We were talking about the resignations that got rid of Bozo, I think you are referring to Javid resigning as chancellor

[Red Beret]

Best for Britain
@BestForBritain
OH. WOW.😯

Chris Philp's defence of Sunak to
@sarahjolney1
: "Were YOU there yesterday, then?" 😬

A (quite rightly LIVID) Olney: "I'm not the PM. I'm not out there, in a foreign country, representing ALL of us."

This is turning into a bigger mess for Sunak, by the minute. ~AA

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1799069455538155834

Sheer fucking arrogance of this lot.

[Dr. Beaker]

We were talking about the resignations that got rid of Bozo, I think you are referring to Javid resigning as chancellor

I was indeed.

[cornishscouser92]

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 45% (-1)
CON: 20% (-1)
RFM: 15% (+2)
LDM: 10% (+2)
GRN: 5% (-1)
SNP: 3% (=)

Via @wethinkpolling, 6-7 Jun.
Changes w/ 30-31 May.

[cornishscouser92]

The Sunak D-Day will probably filter into the polling by the middle of next week I should think, if there's any effect.

[Rob K]

@NoContextBrits

This one sums the prick up.

[Kekule]

What are the chances of the ITV interview being a “Labour really are putting taxes up by £2000, we’re not lying. Honest.” car crash just to compound the whole thing?  If it’s not a Masterclass in statesmanship and election campaigning then the Tory MPs in the few remaining safe seats are likely to go thermonuclear on him.

He’s probably already cost Penny Mordaunt her Portsmouth seat as I think there’s quite a lot of military/ex-military in that constituency.  She’s got to stand on stage later and defend him live on telly while six others stick the boot in, and “we shouldn’t politicise D-Day” is not going to cut it as a response. She’ll be fuming.

It’s hilarious when you think about it.

[cornishscouser92]

What are the chances of the ITV interview being a “Labour really are putting taxes up by £2000, we’re not lying. Honest.” car crash just to compound the whole thing?  If it’s not a Masterclass in statesmanship and election campaigning then the Tory MPs in the few remaining safe seats are likely to go thermonuclear on him.

He’s probably already cost Penny Mordaunt her Portsmouth seat as I think there’s quite a lot of military/ex-military in that constituency.  She’s got to stand on stage later and defend him live on telly while six others stick the boot in, and “we shouldn’t politicise D-Day” is not going to cut it as a response. She’ll be fuming.

It’s hilarious when you think about it.

Sunak and his advisors are horrendous are politics, so I wouldn't be shocked

[Draex]

There is a rumour going round that Sunaks Chief SPAD is Dianne Abbott.

We go live to Sunak's chief of election strategy



"Caw Caw"

[cornishscouser92]

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 46% (=)
CON: 25% (-2)
RFM: 11% (+1)
LDM: 9% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+1)
SNP: 3% (=)

Via @Moreincommon_, 5-7 Jun.
Changes w/ 1-3 Jun.

[gazzalfc]

Penny Mordaunt is ex military herself and her dad was a paratrooper. She stood as leader of the house of commons and represented the government at the kings coronation.

If there is Tory that will have been hurt by what Sunak has done, it would be her.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Today: "This is what you must say as an 'apology' Prime Minister - and you must deviate it from these words."

Yesterday: "This is your itinerary for D-Day Prime Minister - and you must not deviate from this schedule."

His explanation about the itinerary being drawn up before the election was announced makes no sense. None! Or am I missing something? I mean, either he always intended to leave early, or he changed plans (and left early) to go his ITV interview in a forlorn attempt to tidy up his previous huge gaff. The decision was always his. I find him absolutely loathsome.

[Ray K]

Westminster Voting Intention:

CON: 25% (-2)
RFM: 11% (+1)

Via @Moreincommon_, 5-7 Jun.
Changes w/ 1-3 Jun.

Moreincommon are definitely outliers in the polls with regards to the Con/Ref vote share.  Someone will have their methodology badly wrong or incredibly right here.