Topic: Negativity on RAWK

[SlowRap]

Yes that would be very unfair, luckily we've never suggested anything of the sort, only asking that criticism is constructive and not just 'we were shite' 'Balotelli is rubbish' etc.

Last year all the short-hand negative comments were vented in the post match thread, users used it as a realise sort of, just to have a moan (I tend to avoid it after defeats myself). The longer more detailed comments were saved for the round-table thread. I thought that system worked quite well.

 

[Maggie May]

Sunday for me is what football is all about, up and down, rollercoaster ride that put me through every emotional feeling imaginable. Yourself also it seems. Did it cross your mind to come on here and play fuck ? Your first post, seconds after the final whistle, "Right, where's RAWK, I'm gonna go mad".

I think most on here were ready to vent, it looked like we'd thrown it away twice, people were still in that mindset.

I honestly think folk come on here, drop a hand grenade, then disappear. I've done it, you've probably done it. But for some, it's all they do, and that's what spoils it. At this point the elation at winning turns to moaning at how shit we were and how crap this weeks scapegoat is. It's organic, if you re read the post match you can see it happening.

I honestly don't understand what possesses people to do that.  I was hopping about with joy.  We were rubbish but we still won.  Yeah.  Brilliant.  You can laugh at the opposition.  It is for them to moan and fester, not us surely?  And the more they say "You lucky fuckers" the more I say "Yeah aint we just".  And laugh.  No intentions of beating myself up when we've won.  What do some people want?  Bows on it?  And I thought the manager and captain didn't have to do the breast beating "We were awful" routine.  We won didn't we?  We didn't cheat.  So who the fuck cares how we did it? 

I would respectfully suggest a cooling off period of a day before the after match thread kicks off.  Some of the comments on there are awful. 

[Motty]

No you didnt

Eh ?

[john_mac]

I would respectfully suggest a cooling off period of a day before the after match thread kicks off.

Or 16 pints, that'll do it

[Maggie May]

Or 16 pints, that'll do it

Even better.   

[jamieredders]

We have suffered for years watching the Mancs snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

When we do it, we are shite.

You learn on this forum that there are Liverpool supporters and there are Liverpool followers.  It's easy to spot the difference.

Proud to be a supporter ta very much.

Now lets go and smash Madrid and that little tosser of a Manc

 

[KK Legend]

There seems to be a sneeriness to it to. A closet bullying. And it's the way of the world now with the Internet. People can be bullies in hiding. They can say someone is shit, useless, a c*nt, etc, all behind the safety of a computer screen. It's a bullying mentality. Get on a players back, bully him to play better, not encourage him to play better.

Horrible world we live in, and it's filtered over to the 'fan' (hesitate to use the word 'supporter'.

And exactly the same can be said when you have those who won't have (allow) a critique said against the manager, players or team as a whole.

It's a forum, a place to offer an opinion, a throw away opinion at that. Not a place to be censored or "bullied" because your opinion doesn't fit, unless that is, if said opinion is way ott, abusive, racist or any of that kind of stuff.

If people want to say Balotelli was poor, or Rodgers is struggling on our defensive side of the game or anything else they have a problem with about our team at the minute and describe why they feel that way. Personally, don't see a problem with that. So, the bullying thing works both ways eh Paul?

[Motty]

And exactly the same can be said when you have those who won't have (allow) a critique said against the manager, players or team as a whole.

It's a forum, a place to offer an opinion, a throw away opinion at that. Not a place to be censored or "bullied" because your opinion doesn't fit, unless that is, if said opinion is way ott, abusive, racist or any of that kind of stuff.

If people want to say Balotelli was poor, or Rodgers is struggling on our defensive side of the game or anything else they have a problem with about our team at the minute and describe why they feel that way. Personally, don't see a problem with that. So, the bullying thing works both ways eh Paul?

You clearly didn't read the post match thread did you ,"Balotelli was poor" and "Rodgers is struggling on our defensive side of the game" ? Are you having a fucking laugh like ! If you weren't reading it at the time or can't be arsed to do your homework on what was said by a lot of posters then don't comment ,pretty simple logic really.

I'm off to bed so don't expect a immediate response.

[JerseyKloppite]

And exactly the same can be said when you have those who won't have (allow) a critique said against the manager, players or team as a whole.

No one says you shouldn't be allowed a critique. It would be welcome. This isn't about differing opinions, it's about people writing shite, kneejerkism, constant moaning and taking no joy from seeing us win. Read the OP.

It's a forum, a place to offer an opinion, a throw away opinion at that. Not a place to be censored or "bullied" because your opinion doesn't fit, unless that is, if said opinion is way ott, abusive, racist or any of that kind of stuff.

No-one wants to censor or bully anyone. See above. The kind of opinions I'm discussing ARE often the ones that are 'way ott'. Furthermore, there are long term posters (I don't particularly include myself in this) who are valued members of the site, who write quality articles about our history or our tactics etc who have left because of the negative cr*p spouted by some posters, and more who are fed up with it. They've been pushed away to the detriment of the forum and that's far worse than telling the odd poster to wind it in for moaning too much.

If people want to say Balotelli was poor, or Rodgers is struggling on our defensive side of the game or anything else they have a problem with about our team at the minute and describe why they feel that way. Personally, don't see a problem with that. So, the bullying thing works both ways eh Paul?

People can say whatever they want and I have no problem with it. This isn't about opinions, it's about the form more than the content. Critique and debate properly, don't write shite then leave.

[Ken-Obi]

Like teen angst, this phase will stop feeling cool after a while.

[Red_Mist]

You clearly didn't read the post match thread did you ,"Balotelli was poor" and "Rodgers is struggling on our defensive side of the game" ? Are you having a fucking laugh like ! If you weren't reading it at the time or can't be arsed to do your homework on what was said by a lot of posters then don't comment ,pretty simple logic really.

I'm off to bed so don't expect a immediate response.

Craig, think about this for a minute- now the site's become as big as it is (and this isn't a complaint about opening registrations, just a statement of fact), if you're looking for intelligent debate and constructive criticism, and you're going in the post-match thread to find it, then you haven't learnt much from past games. Ignore or report or wait for the RT if they wind you up. Generally speaking, now the player threads have gone, the site's easier to read. And i agree with the general sentiments of the OP, but the first 10 pages after the game? Forget it. Great place to look for ban fodder or manc wums (pretty sure the mods can't be arsed though, and who can blame them?) but size of the site now?Fighting a losing battle if you think the post-match will change.

Anyway, IT'S WEDNESDAY!!!

[kcbworth]

Eh ?

I'll try again

they've been working on the training ground all week for the match and it all went to Shit

Just calling out the irony that in your measured response, you still indicated that we were shit... 

[Spartacus.]

Both positive and negative opinions are welcome on RAWK, it’s not the opinion that’s the problem it’s how some people voice their opinion that we (at times) have issue with.

This thread is just going round in circles now, it feels like good cop bad cop, point's made, move on, huge game tonight.

[Hinesy]

mellor

[Spartacus.]

You posted in my locked thread, that's a banning for you !!!

[Hinesy]

oops done it again...

[24/7]

oops done it again...

Post in it baby, one more time!