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How do you think Suarez will do at Barcelona?

Better than Messi
Messi level
Sub Messi, better than Eto'o, Ibrahimovic etc. Ronaldinho maybe.
Pedro level
Flop

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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4880 on: May 9, 2024, 07:06:15 pm »
If he was not a complete head case he would be unanimously the 3rd best player in the Messi/Ronaldo era.

A truly historic player.

So who do you think is the 3rd best player? Looking at the first two the criteria would be exciting game changers and that’s exactly what Suarez was, whilst being a head case.

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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4881 on: May 9, 2024, 07:11:54 pm »
If he was not a complete head case he would be unanimously the 3rd best player in the Messi/Ronaldo era.

A truly historic player.
Jelavic was better, if you believe the headcases across from Anfield.

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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4882 on: May 10, 2024, 06:19:22 pm »
You can really see the level of MLS when Suarez and Messi are there. Luis is well past his sell by date and he makes the other players look like they're running in treacle. Wretched league in terms of true quality - it's why the best there always stand out as if they're playing a different sport (Davies, etc.).
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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4883 on: May 10, 2024, 06:45:24 pm »
Suarez went to a Barca side with Messi and Neymar (and I think still their midfield trio, maybe not Xavi) and instantly made them way better. He was incredible.

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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4884 on: May 11, 2024, 04:49:07 pm »
So who do you think is the 3rd best player? Looking at the first two the criteria would be exciting game changers and that’s exactly what Suarez was, whilst being a head case.

Talent wise, Neymar.

Unfortunately for him he had a terrible upbringing in the game in that he was indulged from when he was a precocious youngster, and he displayed that entitlement at every turn. He had no grounding and that has affected how he conducts himself.

He was also fouled alot, but as the boy who cried wolf, ie. constant play acting, he wasn't protected by referees nearly enough (they'd have been sick of him, plus unsure when there was a legitimate foul) and you see him pick up quite a few injuries because of it. He was his own worst enemy.

That he hasn't won a Balon D'Or he has only himself to blame, although those around him are also culpable. The mentality of La Masia, 'today for you tomorrow for me', you can see what it instilled in all those youth players at Barca. Neymar never got any humbling growing up.

Suarez on the other hand had an attitude and a tireless work ethic you would love to bottle, and as a result he showed everything he had to give. Still think he's looked on a bit too fondly here given he did try to instigate a move away in August '13. Although he (and the attack) almost carried us to the league he is given a status that is too elevated. Owen by comparison, his contribution to the club dwarfs Suarez, and in his prime (prior to his hamstring going when as a kid he was overplayed) he was behind Ronaldo (real one) as the most valuable player on the planet. As the best youngster in England he chose us when he had the pick of any team, and gave the seven best years of his career to us. There is no comparison between him and a fella who after 2 and a half seasons looked to get out.

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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4885 on: May 13, 2024, 12:36:03 am »
By far the best player who has ever played for us. Can you fucking imagine him in any of our better teams like the last one under Klopp? If it was a different era without Messi and c Ronaldo he would be talked about much more. If it came down to it and you had your team but just needed a 9... it would be suarez over anyone like ibrahimavic, Benzema, Lewendoski,  Villa etc, etc.

In world football in the time I've been watching I'd have maybe Ronaldo above him as a number 9 but his injuries stopped him from true greatness. Still the best teenager by a mile that ever was.


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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4886 on: May 14, 2024, 09:45:55 am »
If he was not a complete head case he would be unanimously the 3rd best player in the Messi/Ronaldo era.

A truly historic player.

He is definitely 3rd best player in that era.

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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4887 on: May 14, 2024, 04:30:05 pm »
2013/14 for me he was the best player in the world.
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Re: Luis Suarez
« Reply #4888 on: May 14, 2024, 06:16:56 pm »
In terms of career achievements and everything you'd obviously have to put Ronaldo ahead but from about 2012-2018 or so Suarez was easily the better player IMO, and you can call most of those years Ronaldo's best too. Only Messi was better than him during that period, and his last season at Liverpool he was the best around.

He's closing in on 400 league goals too, only a select amount in history will ever have done that.
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