Topic: Mamadou Sakho

[TepidT2O]

Don't think he's fully fit but with the injuries we've had he's been rushed back

A fair point probably.....

[istvan kozma]

Don't think he's fully fit but with the injuries we've had he's been rushed back

...Or maybe he's just an average Centre Back.

[Djimi Smicer34]

Don't think he's fully fit but with the injuries we've had he's been rushed back

But its not as though we don't have options, we had Toure on the bench today and Caulker and Ilori in the stands.  We're not down to the bare bones, we've given ourselves options so we don't have to select Sakho if he's not fit or ready to play.  Same goes for Henderson, maybe they are both still struggling with the injuries they've had but if they are we're only running the risk of hurting them and ourselves further if we continue to persist with them regardless.

[bodhisattva]

...Or maybe he's just an average Centre Back.

Maybe although he seems to do pretty well for France when he plays (which is most of the time) I think he's suffering a loss of form like the rest
of the team and it can't help playing on Moreno's side and with a GK that is conceding more than 1 out of 2 shots on target.

Just think of the 4 CBs we have at the club he's the best, maybe he shouldn't be starting for us but id sell the other 3 before him.

[Vorg]

Think the basics is what he struggles with most of all though, which is why he's such a worry.
. . .

This whole post was an excellent summary. The first and foremost duty of a central defender is to stop opponents from scoring goals, any other qualities are a bonus. In practice this means being in the right place at the right time (positioning), and then being able to ensure opponent does not get dangerous shots and headers towards the goal (defensive skills).

Sakho's positioning is often puzzlingly weak. That may be connected to our general defensive organisational problems, but it is curious how, for example, Kolo Toure (who plays at least as sporadically) does not have similar issues. This alone would be a concern.

Worse, albeit Sakho indeed seems to have the physical qualities to be a world-class duel-winner, he frequently fails to make them count, letting opponents get quality headers and shots towards the goal time and time again despite being right next to them.

Like others have already pointed out, Lovren had several glaring problems in his game as well, and he has improved dramatically lately, so I'm not giving up hope for Sakho either just yet. But I'm seriously starting to fear there is more to Sakho's struggling than just a patch of bad form.

[Sarge]

His turn of pace is very very bad, Kolo is possibly quicker.

[Kopenhagen]

His turn of pace is very very bad, Kolo is possibly quicker.

And he's probably our fastest CB. Bizarre comment.

Anyway, none of our CBs bar Skrtel can stay fit for extended periods. Lovren's crocked once again.

Sell them.

[Fiasco]

And he's probably our fastest CB. Bizarre comment.

Anyway, none of our CBs bar Skrtel can stay fit for extended periods. Lovren's crocked once again.

Sell them.

Lovren's had about a similar amount of time out as Sakho his during his time here. Yet you don't hear people bringing his injuries up, it doesn't fit the agenda. (I know you've just mentioned them, but by and large you don't hear it).

[Robinred]

Watched the whole game again, with a particular "eye" on Sakho.

Aside from two mistakes, one of which led to their equaliser, he actually had a good game. Not great but certainly nowhere near bad enough to get the slating he's getting on here.

[Kopenhagen]

Lovren's had about a similar amount of time out as Sakho his during his time here. Yet you don't hear people bringing his injuries up, it doesn't fit the agenda. (I know you've just mentioned them, but by and large you don't hear it).

It's true, he's a crock. So is Sakho. Skrtel isn't good enough.

There should be a serious conversation had about selling all three. Maybe we could keep Skrtel as fourth choice or something, play him in the cups and watch him get bullied by League Two grocks again.

[Sarge]

And he's probably our fastest CB. Bizarre comment.

Anyway, none of our CBs bar Skrtel can stay fit for extended periods. Lovren's crocked once again.

Sell them.

Being our fastest CB does not mean he actually is quick. Bizarre I know.

[TepidT2O]

And he's probably our fastest CB. Bizarre comment.

Anyway, none of our CBs bar Skrtel can stay fit for extended periods. Lovren's crocked once again.

Sell them.

Turn of pace isn't quite the same....

Like Can, he's quite quick, but takes a while to get to that speed..

Illori is out fastest centre back by a huge margin though....(not sure if he quite counts mind)

[Sarge]

Turn of pace isn't quite the same....

Like Can, he's quite quick, but takes a while to get to that speed..

Illori is out fastest centre back by a huge margin though....(not sure if he quite counts mind)

True, watch the clip of Vardys goal from the other night, Sakho is left for dead.

[SerbianScouser]

True, watch the clip of Vardys goal from the other night, Sakho is left for dead.

You know any CB in this league that can keep up with Vardy in full sprint?

[Sarge]

You know any CB in this league that can keep up with Vardy in full sprint?

Not the point, but no.

[lukeb1981]

He is no where near aggressive enough , yes he is a big man but he is timid enough and does not use his strengths, he should have stood Defoe up and forced him to play back or forced him out of the face of the goal instead he stayed tight then backed off and let him turn and shoot , if your going to stay tight stay tight and block any shot.

[Cpt_Reina]

Aside from two mistakes, one of which led to their equaliser, he actually had a good game.

Yep, sounds like a good game to me.

This is every Sakho performance ever.

[BER]

He's been shocking, not just the goal, but every counter attack he's always backing off because he's got he acceleration of a fucking tortoise. He's had about five really good games for Liverpool.

That said, it's the definition of scapegoating when only one player thread is allowed to be open.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Lovren's had about a similar amount of time out as Sakho his during his time here. Yet you don't hear people bringing his injuries up, it doesn't fit the agenda. (I know you've just mentioned them, but by and large you don't hear it).

Really? Games missed in the last two seasons.

Sakho = 38 games
Lovren = 14 games

[stockdam]

True, watch the clip of Vardys goal from the other night, Sakho is left for dead.

I think he was limping so that isn't really a fair race.