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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2013, 09:16:39 pm »
Is there something in this ?  8)

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If, and it's a big if, the said company do agree terms, #LFC could earn "richest club in the world" status overnight.
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Expect potential investment to gather pace, investors hope to conclude deal quickly. To be clear negotiations resumed 9th Sept. #LFC
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Qatar wants to invest money in #LFC & across Europe. New hotels, companies etc. They want to buy Liverpool to gain visibility & prestige.
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The talks are with another multi billion £ Qatar investment company, although FSG not looking to sell. Some deals are to good to turn down.
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NEWS: WHO? I can say this, talks with Ooredoo are ongoing. However they want Anfield renamed. Hence no deal was struck in July. #LFC
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REGARDING #LFC INVESTMENT: It will be going into the Club, via share sales (diluting FSG shares) rather than buying a % of FSG ownership.

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investors see the full package, to use the brand to develop the city, tourism & and potential growth

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Anfield and surrounding areas. To develop the community also. Create jobs. PR & revenue

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The investment is initially for plot development around Anfield, then ground & expansion

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Apparently we should have big Investment from the Middle East soon, stadium plans and written forms progressing well [@LFC_news_YNWA_] #LFC

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fsg plan is for outside body to fund stadium, this frees up the money in that pot for the club. Investors want big city hotels @lfcl4
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As I said months ago, the investors want the stadium & surrounding area. Hotel, sports complex etc etc. Need planning first though #lfc


I doubt it. Looks like Twitter shite to me. And if they are talking about 'plot development' first, whatever that means, then the stadium could be years away. And why would you build 'big city hotels' (plural) in the Anfield area. The Ooredoo link is from April and was denied by them shortly afterwards.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2013, 09:54:35 pm »
I doubt it. Looks like Twitter shite to me. And if they are talking about 'plot development' first, whatever that means, then the stadium could be years away. And why would you build 'big city hotels' (plural) in the Anfield area. The Ooredoo link is from April and was denied by them shortly afterwards.

http://www.sport360.com/football/qatari-firm-ooredoo-deny-liverpool-sponsorship-talk

There's too many rumours about Ooredoo for it not to be true IMO. Even after they've denied talks, it's still persisting.
No respected business will announce anything until the deal is done.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2013, 10:00:24 pm »
There's too many rumours about Ooredoo for it not to be true IMO.

Aye, because persistent rumours must mean its true!

It's more likely to be true if we don't hear about it, as most self respecting companies will keep things quiet. Those just wanting a bit of publicity would let it carry on maybe.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2013, 12:19:58 am »
I doubt it. Looks like Twitter shite to me. And if they are talking about 'plot development' first, whatever that means, then the stadium could be years away. And why would you build 'big city hotels' (plural) in the Anfield area. The Ooredoo link is from April and was denied by them shortly afterwards.

http://www.sport360.com/football/qatari-firm-ooredoo-deny-liverpool-sponsorship-talk

Same guy was tweeting the other day that Suarez has signed a new secret contract with a £60m escape clause.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2013, 05:35:16 am »
There's too many rumours about Ooredoo for it not to be true IMO. Even after they've denied talks, it's still persisting.
No respected business will announce anything until the deal is done.

For what to be true? That they are interested in shirt sponsorship? Or in buying up half of L4 and redeveloping it into a business and hotel district, building the stadium and buying a load of equity through a new share issue?

If it was true that they are only really interested in making money through redevelopment then they need to be fucked off sharpish. Wrong on so many levels.

And you contradict yourself: loads of rumours = true; absolute secrecy = true.

The fact that there are loads of rumours just means that... there are loads of rumours. A lot of well-informed people got the Chinese takeover wrong. There may be some truth in this but it doesn't mean a deal is done.
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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2013, 05:10:04 pm »
Twitter is a very hard place to judge reliable people, for every one or two good men there are a slew of pretenders grabbing the oppurtunity to gain followers. Social Media has unfortunately presented people with their very own soap box, why they do its is unkown.

 I personally think the LFC_newsYNWA_ chap is talking bluster and piggybacking on rumours that have been flying around since the Ooeredoo sponsorship leak. My suspicions arose when he quoted the one and only @Indykaila stating he was "ever reliable".

The Trevor Gerrard chap seems much more reliable and has been carrying the story for a while, he seems more genuine in his approach and isn't in constant pursuit for followers. Interestingly he also mentioned when the ground was granted the "asset of the community" status, that it could be a very defining moment in the regeneration. For Henry to come out after that crucial moment sounding confident about finance suggests that the investors who are supposedly lined up are happy with the outcome and it wont prevent them moving forwards with their plans. Could well have been a sliding doors moment.

Anyway, the latest JWH statement has filled me with hope, its come completely out of the blue and he appears to be very confident about the finance, something which has been a bit of a taboo subject over the last few years. He didn't necessarily have to say anything and could have kept his powder dry without anyone noticing. Things, thankfully, after nearly twenty years, seem to be gathering pace.

It does seem for once that the owners are showing some balls and getting things done slowly but surely and with some care and consideration for the people in the area. the rumours that started in the 90's have blighted the area for a long time & H&G showed absolutely no consideration for the local people with their arrogant chutzpah, spade in the ground stuff whilst people still lived in the houses around the ground.

anyway, does anyone know anything about the next steps, when the houses are likely to be sorted, once they're bought how long then for planning permission, and obviously along with planning permission goes the redesigned stadium. any word on architects being lined up or the like?

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2013, 06:57:47 pm »
Architects will have been helping with feasibility options for a while - just to give the club an idea which way to go on the design when the club has certainty on the land etc.

You can't predict Planning. It takes as long as it takes.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2013, 01:45:52 pm »
You can't predict Planning. It takes as long as it takes.

Surely the council will have a fair idea of what's going in the application already and a definite motivation to progress this swiftly, Peter?

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2013, 02:40:35 pm »
Surely the council will have a fair idea of what's going in the application already and a definite motivation to progress this swiftly, Peter?

Surely. But the process is the process and if not followed to the letter, subject to greater challenge.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2013, 04:36:24 pm »
so how will this process play out?

I assume the council has to follow a strict process of purchasing the properties and there will be a maximum offer they can make per property, surely they have got to a stage of full and final offer by now as the process has been going on for a year now.  how long will a resident have to accept the offer before the council can move to the next stage?

I understand once cpo's are issued there will be the possibility of appeal, but this can only be against the process not the values.  who do the appeals go to and how long can they take?




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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #50 on: October 7, 2013, 10:46:26 am »
Not really. Anything is possible in theory as long as there is adequate finance but more importantly available land. Many stadiums have been extended in ways that were not planned. A perfect example is Dortmund that looks the way it does precisely because the original stadium and early extensions hadn't planned for 'final' ground in its current format. The San Siro is actually three structurally independent tiers.  I have no doubt that the feasibility studies and business analysis would have looked at the maximum planning envelope and come to a decision on the optimum stadium size in terms of cost and revenue. Putting in structural groundworks for a potential expansion that might never happen would not be cost effective and may not even be possible if an extension up to 70K required land that the club doesn't own.

I've made my position clear in the "70,000 seats my arse" thread and based on the way they have gone about this I think FSG have done their homework.

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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #51 on: October 7, 2013, 07:06:15 pm »


Thanks for posting that - 1974 (top left) was a 54,000 seater stadium built to replace the Rote Erde ground (seen behind in all the pictures). It had four (relatively) cheap pre-fabricated concrete stands. At the time there was no expectation that there would be a need for a larger stadium or that the culture of football would change from largely standing to largely or all-seated.

In the nineties the capacity shrank to 42,000 as standing rows were converted to seats and the 1995 extension to the two main stands restored capacity to 54,000.

In 1998 after winning the league they expanded again to increase the capacity of the north stand and the sud tribune (south stand).

In 2000 Dortmund was one of the venues for Germany's winning World Cup bid but did not meet the criteria for semi-finals as it did not have enough VIP seating. The solution was to build the four corner stands primarily for VIP and corporate seats. To provide good views form the corners a the existing roof supports had to be removed and the eight iconic yellow masts installed to carry the weight of the existing roof and new corner infills.

The ground now has a capacity of 65,000 seated, 80,000 standing and seated. It looks great and is a coherent, well-designed and fantastic looking stadium but there was no foresight - in fact the heart of it are the four 'cheap-as-chips' stands built for the 1974 World Cup.
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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2014, 04:46:45 pm »
This is definitely a reassuring model. I think we all fear ending up with a hotch-potch, incoherent stadium, with one or two stands dwarfing the others, but the organic growth of the Dortmund stadium and the way it has used its existing structures is an excellent aspiration.
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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2014, 04:54:46 pm »
This is definitely a reassuring model. I think we all fear ending up with a hotch-potch, incoherent stadium, with one or two stands dwarfing the others, but the organic growth of the Dortmund stadium and the way it has used its existing structures is an excellent aspiration.

Anfield won't be as coherent as Dortmund. The proposed Main Stand will be quite a bit higher than the Centenary. The point about Dortmund was that the ground you see now wasn't planned in 1974 - each stage was a response to changed circumstances.
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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2014, 05:05:49 pm »
Anfield won't be as coherent as Dortmund. The proposed Main Stand will be quite a bit higher than the Centenary. The point about Dortmund was that the ground you see now wasn't planned in 1974 - each stage was a response to changed circumstances.

Yeah, I get that. Just saying it's reassuring to see that just because you're planning piecemeal, doesn't mean you end up with a dog's dinner.
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Re: DLA leads for Liverpool FC on £260m Anfield regeneration plan
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2014, 02:30:47 pm »
will it be higher than the mil burn stand at st james park?


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