Topic: Uber loses London Licence

[stevensr123]

Are you happy for the country to have tax cuts, a deregulated market and no protections if it brings in more jobs?

are you happy to have tax increases, more regulation and less jobs  I.e less tax revenue = less money for public services such as schools, health care etc?

Most companies are fucking twats , you and everyone one on here are probably typing on a computer or wearing cloths, that at some point exploited children - stop with the hypocracy eh

Or how far to we take it? Ban all apple products, Samsung products, Nike products etc ?

[CraigDS]

Most companies are fucking twats

Bit fucking hypocritical of you....

Also good to know people are very happy to tarnish the vast majority of good drivers who do Uber without a problem, because 30 or so scum bags

[stevensr123]

Bit fucking hypocritical of you....

the drivers do not = the company.

[CraigDS]

the drivers do not = the company.

No, the fact you went off on someone tarnishing every Uber employee because of a small number, yet then go on to tarnish "most" companies as twats based on the actions of a few.

[Andy82lfc]

Personally I'm in the bus of wanting Uber to stay in London, for me since I first used them while living in Paris they have been a breath of fresh air and I wouldn't go near a normal cab since and there are many reasons for that.

Mainly for me it's extremely difficult to get scammed now. The driver is toothless in trying to drive a long way, change the fair or any other shady trick that has happened to many people especially in foreign cities where scamming tourists is so common. If that happens you are immediately refunded by uber anyway.

I take Uber's everywhere I travel and in London as they are so reliable, safe and obviously cheaper too. Not to mention I can track the car if my girlfriend is coming home late, no money needs to change hands ever and I can call one if stuck anywhere at anytime and it'll be there in seconds even if I don't know the city or have access to local cab firms numbers.

They are not perfect and hopefully things will improve but would take an Uber over the chance of being scammed or massively overcharged every single day of the week.

[killer-heels]

are you happy to have tax increases, more regulation and less jobs  I.e less tax revenue = less money for public services such as schools, health care etc?

Most companies are fucking twats , you and everyone one on here are probably typing on a computer or wearing cloths, that at some point exploited children - stop with the hypocracy eh

Or how far to we take it? Ban all apple products, Samsung products, Nike products etc ?

Why can there not be a balance? Why can Uber fuck off every standard? There is a set of standards that they havent adhered to and got punished for. Why should we let them off?

To answer your first point, yes. I want a set of regulations enforced, I want companies and indviduals to pay more tax and I want the government to intervene and for the state to prioritise busiessness here.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Yes of course it was, I'm lost here...

It has its own Mayor and is run by the City of London Corporation

[J_Kopite]

Considering I work and travel within its boundaries every day, I'm fully aware of what the city of London and the corporation is, I asked why the tax take of the City would be excluded from the 'London' tax receipts mentioned in the article, the piece nor your map suggest it is.

The London economy is also greater than just the city as it is, where do you think people like me who can't afford to live near work so reside between zones 2 and 5 spend their wages?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Considering I work and travel within its boundaries every day, I'm fully aware of what the city of London and the corporation is, I asked why the tax take of the City would be excluded from the 'London' tax receipts mentioned in the article, the piece nor your map suggest it is.

Then I don't understand why you were lost to begin with.

Intentionally so maybe.

[J_Kopite]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, my point was the city (and therefore the tax it generates) is included within the London region because that's where its located and the statistics reflect that.

Saying otherwise is akin to arguing 'don't count tourist revenue in Paris' or 'ignore the business local pubs receive on a match day at Anfield' which is what I thought you were saying. Again apologies if that's wrong.

[west_london_red]

This is worth a read

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/uber-london-ban-driver-employee-rights-money-passenger-safety-women-a7969516.html?amp

[rob1966]

You can always tell when you are driving behind an an Uber cab, the driver hasn't got a fucking clue where he's going. A neighbour drives a private hire and Uber is killing him. Its because Uber drivers can work outside their licenced areas, so we have cabs from all over Cheshire, Merseyside, Lancashire and even Cumbria working in our area. I hate it as its costing locals their livelihoods.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

Taxi-hailing app firm Uber has lost an appeal against a ruling that its drivers should be treated as workers rather than self-employed.

The firm said it would appeal against this latest ruling, too.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41940018

[killer-heels]

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41940018

Fantastic news. No doubt Uber will put out their sob story. The more that is done to get rid of this company or force it to change (it wont as it doesnt want to), the better.

[Trada]

Just breaking Uber was hacked and  data of 57 Million customers was stolen the hack happened in 2016

[rob1966]

Lost its licence in Brighton now

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/01/uber-has-license-removed-brighton-three-councillors-made-decision/

[Red-Soldier]

Lost its licence in Brighton now

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/01/uber-has-license-removed-brighton-three-councillors-made-decision/

Good.

[rob1966]

Good.

Only used Uber twice because the local firm went shit, but we've a decent one now so won't use them. The out of area drivers is the worst bit, got picked up from Manchester airport by a Knowsley MBC cab, around here you know if the cab in front of you is uber because they have no clue where they are going. For example we get Wigan, Rochdale, Bolton, Oldham, Macclesfield and Stoke cabs working by ours, robbing work from local drivers who live in the area.

[stevensr123]

Good.

I'm Sure all those people and their families will be  thrilled at losing their income.

[killer-heels]

I'm Sure all those people and their families will be  thrilled at losing their income.

Its not the individual people that there is a problem against, but the company itself. No one should want organisations like them operating here.

[So… Howard Philips]

Only used Uber twice because the local firm went shit, but we've a decent one now so won't use them. The out of area drivers is the worst bit, got picked up from Manchester airport by a Knowsley MBC cab, around here you know if the cab in front of you is uber because they have no clue where they are going. For example we get Wigan, Rochdale, Bolton, Oldham, Macclesfield and Stoke cabs working by ours, robbing work from local drivers who live in the area.

Last year we were after a cab from Woolton to town. Normally about £7 quid. It was a bit busy so couldn't get a private hire and none available so tried Uber who quoted us £16.

Roundly fucked them off and got the bus instead.

[rob1966]

Last year we were after a cab from Woolton to town. Normally about £7 quid. It was a bit busy so couldn't get a private hire and none available so tried Uber who quoted us £16.

Roundly fucked them off and got the bus instead.

Last November we were going to see John Bishop at the MEN. Had a meal out first and ordered a local cab to pick us up from the restaurant, fare would be about £12. Cab didn't show and they weren't picking up when we rang - tried the Uber app, fucking £70 they wanted to go into Manchester. Jumped the train for about £14 and got a black cab home.

[So… Howard Philips]

Last November we were going to see John Bishop at the MEN. Had a meal out first and ordered a local cab to pick us up from the restaurant, fare would be about £12. Cab didn't show and they weren't picking up when we rang - tried the Uber app, fucking £70 they wanted to go into Manchester. Jumped the train for about £14 and got a black cab home.

The beauty of algorithms, hey.

[Claire.]

Uber use surge pricing for busy times, can’t really blame them as it gets more drivers out and it’s clear in the app why the price is up and you can choose to accept it or not. A delta from L4 to town is about a fiver, black cab about £8 and an Uber without surge price is around £7. Don’t really know what all the whinging is about in here.

[Red-Soldier]

Uber use surge pricing for busy times, can’t really blame them as it gets more drivers out and it’s clear in the app why the price is up and you can choose to accept it or not. A delta from L4 to town is about a fiver, black cab about £8 and an Uber without surge price is around £7. Don’t really know what all the whinging is about in here.

I think it's more to do with the ethics and business practices of the company, as opposed to the fare prices.

[Roady]

Some mental charges on here!!! Used Uber a fair few times. Not that often coz i don’t use cabs often. When I’ve used them Uber has been fine! And cheap! A black cab is stupidly expensive so I try and avoid them . Private hire or Uber have always been cheaper for me.

[The North Bank]

Before I found out where to wait for Uber at Heathrow airport ( they are not allowed to pick up in the same areas as black cabs), it was costing me £56 to take a cab home to west London, about 30 minutes away. Now I pay £20 for uber. I find being ripped off unethical, £56 quid for a half an hour trip. That’s the real crime, not some poor foreigner trying to make a living. 

[killer-heels]

Before I found out where to wait for Uber at Heathrow airport ( they are not allowed to pick up in the same areas as black cabs), it was costing me £56 to take a cab home to west London, about 30 minutes away. Now I pay £20 for uber. I find being ripped off unethical, £56 quid for a half an hour trip. That’s the real crime, not some poor foreigner trying to make a living. 

Again, its not the drivers people have a problem with. Well, not most of the drivers anyway.

[stevensr123]

Again, its not the drivers people have a problem with. Well, not most of the drivers anyway.

But it directly effects the drivers more than anyone.

This latest argument the council have put up is hilarious as well.

Out of town drivers - Wait what?! Since when have government/councils decided who a company can hire and where they should live? Are we not one country?
What next, no engineers/Bankers from liverpool, got to be living in Manchester.

The app -  I agree It needs cracking down, in the same way facebook does. They don't seem to be outright banning facebook, google and all the other companies that collect data though do they?


They have been doing reforms lately so hopefully a lot of the stuff is taken care of and hopefully they can continue to "employ people", It just seems though they are finding every little thing to ban them though. Which makes me think its more of a tax revenue and union thing, as apposed to just these collective issues.


 

[killer-heels]

But it directly effects the drivers more than anyone.

This latest argument the council have put up is hilarious as well.

Out of town drivers - Wait what?! Since when have government/councils decided who a company can hire and where they should live? Are we not one country?
What next, no engineers/Bankers from liverpool, got to be living in Manchester.

The app -  I agree It needs cracking down, in the same way facebook does. They don't seem to be outright banning facebook, google and all the other companies that collect data though do they?


They have been doing reforms lately so hopefully a lot of the stuff is taken care of and hopefully they can continue to "employ people", It just seems though they are finding every little thing to ban them though. Which makes me think its more of a tax revenue and union thing, as apposed to just these collective issues.


 

It does affect the drivers but thats just unfortunate. The more organisations like these we have the more rights of employees are going to be stripped back.

People will always want work, but these and other gig economy organisations threaten to make things just shit for all of us.

[rob1966]

But it directly effects the drivers more than anyone.

This latest argument the council have put up is hilarious as well.

Out of town drivers - Wait what?! Since when have government/councils decided who a company can hire and where they should live? Are we not one country?
What next, no engineers/Bankers from liverpool, got to be living in Manchester.

The app -  I agree It needs cracking down, in the same way facebook does. They don't seem to be outright banning facebook, google and all the other companies that collect data though do they?


They have been doing reforms lately so hopefully a lot of the stuff is taken care of and hopefully they can continue to "employ people", It just seems though they are finding every little thing to ban them though. Which makes me think its more of a tax revenue and union thing, as apposed to just these collective issues.

When they say out of town, they mean licenced by another council. Like I said, we got picked up from Manchester Airport to go to ours 10 miles up the road by an Uber plated by Knowsley MBC. I've seen Rochdale, Wigan, Bolton, Leigh, Oldham, Stoke on Trent and Macclesfield plated cabs near ours in Manchester, they work the area and don't have a clue where they are going, they rely on Sat Nav to do 2 mile trips. How would you feel if you took a Liverpool or Sefton taxi test and got plated, then cabs from 50/60 miles away were working Liverpool, taking all your fares? My neighbour does private hire of a weekend as there is barely enough work to keep the local drivers going, Uber coming into the area is killing them.

Uber use surge pricing for busy times, can’t really blame them as it gets more drivers out and it’s clear in the app why the price is up and you can choose to accept it or not. A delta from L4 to town is about a fiver, black cab about £8 and an Uber without surge price is around £7. Don’t really know what all the whinging is about in here.

In my experience the surge price was 5 times the cost of a non surge trip. As has been said though, its not the prices or the drivers, its the business practices. The eventual aim of Uber is automated cabs, so that is hundreds of thousands of drivers unemployed.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

If you think it’s bad here for cabbies New York is miles worse

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/nyregion/new-york-taxi-medallions-uber.html

[SP]

If you think it’s bad here for cabbies New York is miles worse

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/nyregion/new-york-taxi-medallions-uber.html

Cohen has multiple medallions. Shame.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Cohen has multiple medallions. Shame.

hopefully he was one of those who bought them at their peak

[Jiminy Cricket]

Cohen has multiple medallions. Shame.

hopefully he was one of those who bought them at their peak

I understand that he has 14 of them. And yes, all bought some time ago (prices peaked at about $1M per medallion, but I don't know what Cohen paid).

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-taxi-medallion-donald-trump/index.html

Now, consider that Cohen (reportedly) is struggling to pay lawyer fees, had to obtain a loan against his home to pay that $130,000 to Stormy, and according to the article I linked above, is behind on his taxes. It all suggests that he is in a deep financial hole. Thoughts and prayers, Michael.