Topic: Torres: Don't rush Gerrard back too soon

[Dante79]

Don't play him at Real for the first leg. Play him in the second at home and he'll tear them apart (not unlike his hamstring)

Mazz

We need him for the first leg...first leg is the most important game cause we gotta to go get a result at the Bernabeu

[CHOPPER]

We need him for the first leg...first leg is the most important game cause we gotta to go get a result at the Bernabeu

anything other than a loss and 0-0 will do fine.

[Dante79]

anything other than a loss and 0-0 will do fine.

Yea, we need to get a draw with at least 1 goal..even a 2-1 loss wouldnt be that bad cause am sure we wil finish them at Anfield

[CHOPPER]

Yea, we need to get a draw with at least 1 goal..even a 2-1 loss wouldnt be that bad cuase am sure we wil finish them at Anfield

indeed, 2-1 is probably better than 0-0 with all things considered.

[lionel_messias]

----------------------Reina---------------------

Arbeloa------Carragher---Skrtel--------Agger

---------------Aurelio-------Mascherano---------

Kuyt--------------Lucas---------------Riera

                               Torres


Highly unlikely but.....it would be neat to see

On current form Yossi has to play, dude

[lfc_bhoy]

On current form Yossi has to play, dude

Not sure bro.  I would rather have Kuyt wear them down and Benny break their ankles in the last 20.

[Dante79]

The way Yossi is playing he should start at the Bernabeu

[bigbear]

indeed, 2-1 is probably better than 0-0 with all things considered.

How exactly is that.

If we draw 0-0 at Anfield who goes through ?

What about a 3-2 win at home ?

0-0 would be a great result over there and we can get that without Gerrard. Alonso and Mascherano are key to the away tie and whichever full back is marking Robben.

[red_til_i_die]

How exactly is that.

If we draw 0-0 at Anfield who goes through ?

What about a 3-2 win at home ?

0-0 would be a great result over there and we can get that without Gerrard. Alonso and Mascherano are key to the away tie and whichever full back is marking Robben.

losing 2-1 is better than a 0-0 away in my book. i can see us scoring at Anfield and not conceeding. I very much doubt that either game will get to the heights of 3-2. Both games i would have thought would be like the Atletico games earlier in the season but i can see us winning at Anfield especially if it went to extra time

[bigbear]

losing 2-1 is better than a 0-0 away in my book. i can see us scoring at Anfield and not conceeding.

Except it just isn't is it ?

At 0-0 after an hour in the second leg, what score would you want the first leg to be ?

Could you see the 2nd leg being 2-1 to us ?

I could but with your result it would be a draw and extra time whereas with mine we're through.

2-1 defeat is not better than 0-0 in any circumstances. It's a stupid thing to say.

0-0 away from home is better if the second leg is 0-0, 2-1, 3-2, 4-3 etc.

2-1 is not better under any score in the second leg.

[aliverbirduponmychest]

I have no worries going into this type of game. Rafa will wipe the floor with Ramos. We'll win it in the last few minutes. It's the Boro and Sunderland games I'd worry about, especially if he isn't fit for them.

Dead right, No probs against Madrid, I'll be biting my nails during the Boro and Sunderland games!

[CHOPPER]

How exactly is that.

If we draw 0-0 at Anfield who goes through ?

What about a 3-2 win at home ?

0-0 would be a great result over there and we can get that without Gerrard. Alonso and Mascherano are key to the away tie and whichever full back is marking Robben.

at 0-0 or 2-1 down we still have to score, the difference with 2-1 is that you have the buffer of the away goal.

[bigbear]

at 0-0 or 2-1 down we still have to score, the difference with 2-1 is that you have the buffer of the away goal.

At 0-0 you don't have to score. It goes to pens. In tight ties that can be important.

Didn't we qualify for this year's CL proper with 2 0-0 draws v Standard Liege ?

[CHOPPER]

At 0-0 you don't have to score. It goes to pens. In tight ties that can be important.

That's true mate, but an away goal in Europe is as important as not conceding
what the away goal does is give you a buffer if the worst may happen and we concede at home.
At 0-0 we have no room for error. Considering the caliber of the teams left in the CL, I'd take an away goal over a 0-0 anyday.

[lvcjmac]

At 0-0 you don't have to score. It goes to pens. In tight ties that can be important.

Didn't we qualify for this year's CL proper with 2 0-0 draws v Standard Liege ?

Nope, deadly Dirk scored in the 118th minute of the second leg before we got to Pens.

[lvcjmac]

I'm not a big fan of 0-0 on the road (Lord knows we can 0-0 with the best of them, arghh!); the away goal is such a huge thing to have over two legs.  That being said, I'd rather come out of the first leg with a 0-0 as opposed to trailing by a goal.

Over the past few years, we've show a the ability to come up with an away goal.  We didn't get one against Liege this fall, and I believe the last time before that we didn't grab an away goal was at Stamford Bridge en route to the Athens final?

[bigbear]

Nope, deadly Dirk scored in the 118th minute of the second leg before we got to Pens.

The point was after 90 mins it was 0-0 and had we lost the first the tie 2-1 we'd have been out. Simple as that.

Dirk wouldn't have had the chance to score had we lost the first leg (as we should have).

[bigbear]

That's true mate, but an away goal in Europe is as important as not conceding
what the away goal does is give you a buffer if the worst may happen and we concede at home.
At 0-0 we have no room for error. Considering the caliber of the teams left in the CL, I'd take an away goal over a 0-0 anyday.

It may seem that way and I know what you are trying to say but it's just not true. A defeat can never be a better result than a draw in a 2 legged tie. There is no score in the 2nd leg that favours a narrow away defeat even with an away goal.

[CHOPPER]

It may seem that way and I know what you are trying to say but it's just not true. A defeat can never be a better result than a draw in a 2 legged tie. There is no score in the 2nd leg that favours a narrow away defeat even with an away goal.

were gonna have to agree to disagree on this one mate, this reds not for turning 

though I'd take a 2 -0 away victory at Madrid to blow both our arguments right out the water. 

[bigbear]

were gonna have to agree to disagree on this one mate, this reds not for turning 

though I'd take a 2 -0 away victory at Madrid to blow both our arguments right out the water. 

Ditto

[Caffeine]

It may seem that way and I know what you are trying to say but it's just not true. A defeat can never be a better result than a draw in a 2 legged tie. There is no score in the 2nd leg that favours a narrow away defeat even with an away goal.

2-1 away/1-0 at home, no? Unless I've misunderstood you.

[rocco]

Except it just isn't is it ?

At 0-0 after an hour in the second leg, what score would you want the first leg to be ?

Could you see the 2nd leg being 2-1 to us ?

I could but with your result it would be a draw and extra time whereas with mine we're through.

2-1 defeat is not better than 0-0 in any circumstances. It's a stupid thing to say.

0-0 away from home is better if the second leg is 0-0, 2-1, 3-2, 4-3 etc.

2-1 is not better under any score in the second leg.

I agree , when is a defeat better than a draw ... never .