Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[rocco]

Bookmark this for 6-12-18 month's time and I would strongly suggest that things will be no further forward.

Really not trying to be contrary and I respect you and other posters that think my opinion on this is 'nonsense', but so many of you can't see the woods for the trees (and I don't say that lightly).

Was wondering myself is there a time frame set on this   as surely you just can’t let a club drag it out for years

[Illmatic]

Winning the domestic treble last season, may have spurned us on even more in the CL final too.

Not wining the League last season just rankles because for all City's financial doping we got done refereeing as much as anything. 

[The North Bank]

Arsenal must be laughing right now, no chance City make a challenge this season now.

Glad our games against them got postponed . Worked out nicely!

[stockdam]

Fair play to FSG for outing them. Once City are gone we can start recruiting again and compete. It's all part of their master plan. Next up is Newcastle and then Chelsea.

[Solomon Grundy]

Haha it's all kicking off

Man City believe a former member of the playing or coaching staff turned informer for the Premier League’s investigation.

The club is currently carrying out internal investigations to find the identity of the individual.

@TheAthleticFC

Haha, here they go, making out that they've been stiched up. That some former disgruntled player or staff member is just making all this up about them. That they're perfectly innocent in all of this. Of course they are.

[rocco]

Fair play to FSG for outing them. Once City are gone we can start recruiting again and compete. It's all part of their master plan. Next up is Newcastle and then Chelsea.

Imo Newcastle owners have been smart so far

[Samie]

It's Raheem or Arteta that's the mole. 

[PeterTheRed ...]

Imo Newcastle owners have been smart so far

Unfortunately, that is true. They are far richer than Man City's owners, but they've been conducting their business pretty smart so far ...

[Port_vale_lad]

I will confidently predict a 250 quid fine, a stern ticking off and most confidently of all all the fa big wigs waking up to new flashy motors in their garages.

[Asam]

If this doesn't wake our owners up to completely go all out this summer, nothing will. City won't be competing for the title next season. We simply have to win it.

don’t hold your breath on that one

[PeterTheRed ...]

I will confidently predict a 250 quid fine, a stern ticking off and most confidently of all all the fa big wigs waking up to new flashy motors in their garages.

The FA big wigs have nothing to do with these charges ...

[ShatnersBassoon]

Unfortunately, that is true. They are far richer than Man City's owners, but they've been conducting their business pretty smart so far ...

a lot will rest on this case. if city get away with it, theyll just use every loop hole and trick as a blueprint

[Snail]

Haha it's all kicking off

Man City believe a former member of the playing or coaching staff turned informer for the Premier League’s investigation.

The club is currently carrying out internal investigations to find the identity of the individual.

@TheAthleticFC

Cancelo, Sterling or Aguero / Yaya / Kompany.

[Samie]

Cancelo, Sterling or Aguero / Yaya / Kompany.

Revenge for no birthday cake. 

[Solomon Grundy]

If this doesn't wake our owners up to completely go all out this summer, nothing will. City won't be competing for the title next season. We simply have to win it.

I don't see how it would. It would just make them think they've run the club in the correct manner. Creating a successful self-sufficient club without cooking the books.

[Statto Red]

 Time bar helped Man City during 2020 CAS case - will it work this time?

In the past when they've been investigated by UEFA, Man City have always insisted they have done nothing wrong. In February 2020, they were banned by UEFA from European competition for two seasons and also fined €30m (£26.8m).

Man City took that case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). The ban was overturned and the fine was reduced to €10m (£8.9m). At the hearing, the panel found most of the breaches alleged were not established or the time was barred, which effectively means they happened too long ago for UEFA to do anything about them.

Crucially, Premier League rules do not include time bar so when Man City defend themselves, they cannot say these alleged offences took place too long ago for you to be able to do anything about them.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12804623/man-city-premier-league-charges-explained-what-are-they-what-could-punishment-be-whats-the-timescale

[Egyptian36]

Remember the ESL drama and how the fans and clubs reacted with banner and shirts and stuff like " earn it ". Watch how everyone will continue to act like nothing happened despite City cheating effected everyone for years.

[west_london_red]

Abu Dhabi bought these as a sportwashing project, which up to now has worked pretty well. This is now damaging the project and its going to get to a point where it's doing more harm than good, it's gonna be funny as fuck when they pull the fake deals and walk away and City go back to being skint.

See, I disagree in that I don’t think it has worked at all, there’s a lot more of the spotlight on them now then before they bought City, and likewise the Saudis buying Newcastle just meant people were reminded again about Jamal Khashoggi’s murder.

[Jean Girard]

I don't even want them stripped of their titles. They're all tainted anyway. I want them properly punished, like relegated Rangers style, and a level playing field that means this situation can never happen again. FFP now! Sick to the back teeth that we even have to contemplate an ownership model like that, or the fucking Biff at Chelsea, to compete. Clubs should stand on their own 2 fucking feet. End of. No interest in schadenfreude, just where football goes now.

[Lee1-6Liv]

Cancelo, Sterling or Aguero / Yaya / Kompany.

Please let it be Milner!

[Nick110581]

If this doesn't wake our owners up to completely go all out this summer, nothing will. City won't be competing for the title next season. We simply have to win it.

Why won’t City win it ?

[Lycan]

I don't even want them stripped of their titles. They're all tainted anyway. I want them properly punished, like relegated Rangers style, and a level playing field that means this situation can never happen again. FFP now! Sick to the back teeth that we even have to contemplate an ownership model like that, or the fucking Biff at Chelsea, to compete. Clubs should stand on their own 2 fucking feet. End of. No interest in schadenfreude, just where football goes now.

I want them stripped of their titles and relegated. If found guilty thev're earned none of them. So why should they be allowed to keep them?

[Wghennessy]

Makes me wonder if political pressure will be applied in favour of sweeping it under the carpet. After all, this country's been up for sale to the Middle East and Russia for a long time, it won't be a good look if Abu Dhabi encounter resistance to their sportswashing project after we've already cooked our goose with Russia. Still, this country's already been stripped almost bare, not sure there's much left anyway

The premier league is owned by the clubs in the league, they wont get away with this regardless.

[Nick110581]

This will drag on for years.

[stockdam]

Pre-match questions......"so Pep, will you resign if City are found guilty?"

[CS111]

I hope they are made a proper example of for the decency of football. Hit them where it hurts which is not in the pocket obviously.
Strip them of everything they have won, an outright ban from all football for a few years would be good aswell

Ps. It's about time a wage cap was brought in and policed aswell
Ridiculous amounts of money in the game now

[Circa1892]

Pre-match questions......"so Pep, will you resign if City are found guilty?"

"You are all forgetting the bigger issues. What is 101 breaches of a rule compared to 1 bottle of koppaberg."

[Jean Girard]

I want them stripped of their titles and relegated. If found guilty thev're earned none of them. So why should they be allowed to keep them?

Yeah fair enough. Just meant I have more interest in a proper overhaul and implementation of FFP going forward. The gravy train is a bigger issue to me. Sick of it and what it's done to the game.

[PeterTheRed ...]

a lot will rest on this case. if city get away with it, theyll just use every loop hole and trick as a blueprint

Yes, that is true. The PL have the perfect chance of making an example out of Man City ...

[MJD-L4]

Similarly to the UEFA farce, they're claiming to have irrefutable evidence that proves their innocence.

If they do indeed have this evidence, why not just hand it over? Why allow yourselves to be dragged through the mud in the press if you're holding on to something that proves you've done nothing wrong?

My assumption is that their "irrefutable evidence" is a lot of small pieces of paper with the queen's head on in a brown envelope.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Haha it's all kicking off

Man City believe a former member of the playing or coaching staff turned informer for the Premier League’s investigation.

The club is currently carrying out internal investigations to find the identity of the individual.

@TheAthleticFC

[PeterTheRed ...]

This will drag on for years.

I think the initial ruling of the PL will be made pretty soon, and certainly before the new season. The appeals in the courts might take years, but they won't postpone the punishment. Man City have broken the company rules, and if they are kicked out, they are kicked out ...

[Caligula?]

Why won’t City win it ?

Because they're likely to get a massive points deduction. They're not winning it if they start the season with a 15-20 points deduction.

[Lycan]

This will drag on for years.

If this drags on I kind of hope City 'win' the league this season(Soz North Bank). Just watch the meltdown on social media if that happens.

[coolbyrne]

The cans of worms are already opened. Unless Man City get the most severe punishment after these charges, the PL will lose all the credibility, and the European Super League will be only a matter of time. Not to mention the possible withdrawal of the sponsors, and worst of all, the PL TV deals being put under scrutiny, because no one pays billions for a suspicious product ...

I'm speaking specifically of stripping City of their titles and awarding them to the 2nd place team. The PL won't want to have to deal with the financial ramifications of bumping every team up one, of paying teams TV money based on their 'new' table position, of having to deal with relegation teams who suddenly wouldn't be relegated. How does that affect the Championship, etc.? They won't want to open up the larger can of worms where team sponsors are now on the hook for paying out bonuses for table positions, where teams will have to pay players performance bonuses, etc. It will be much easier to just leave the seasons City won as blank, leaving everything else as it was.

However, there's no reason to think, regardless of the decision, that teams won't sue either the league or City (or both) for financial hardships caused by the financial doping. I would love to see long-term ramifications for all the times the PL turned a blind eye.

[JRed]

Haha it's all kicking off

Man City believe a former member of the playing or coaching staff turned informer for the Premier League’s investigation.

The club is currently carrying out internal investigations to find the identity of the individual.

@TheAthleticFC

Oh this is getting interesting.
These c*nts are an absolute shit stain on the game and it’s about time they were dealt with.

[Circa1892]

Independent panel revealed.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I'm speaking specifically of stripping City of their titles and awarding them to the 2nd place team. The PL won't want to have to deal with the financial ramifications of bumping every team up one, of paying teams TV money based on their 'new' table position, of having to deal with relegation teams who suddenly wouldn't be relegated. How does that affect the Championship, etc.? They won't want to open up the larger can of worms where team sponsors are now on the hook for paying out bonuses for table positions, where teams will have to pay players performance bonuses, etc. It will be much easier to just leave the seasons City won as blank, leaving everything else as it was.

However, there's no reason to think, regardless of the decision, that teams won't sue either the league or City (or both) for financial hardships caused by the financial doping. I would love to see long-term ramifications for all the times the PL turned a blind eye.

Add the cost of that to the financial penalties,they can afford it,most valuable team in the world and all that.

[RedSince86]

Unfortunately, that is true. They are far richer than Man City's owners, but they've been conducting their business pretty smart so far ...

They just inked their 4th PIF commercial deal last month and Saudia Airlines will announced near end of the season as their new shirt sponsor for next season onwards.

Spent almost £300 million this season, they were starting but this has stopped them in their tracks no doubt and they won't be obvious now, they are signing a deal with Adidas after paying of Castore to terminate the contract, no doubt that Adidas deal will be supplemented with extra money by PIF to boost the annual payments on that deal the way City did with Puma.

[DangerScouse]

Did Pip sign a new contract yet? Wonder if he might consider walking?