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« Reply #47480 on: January 14, 2021, 05:54:15 pm »
Sorry, this isn’t going to help much but I’ve reached my limit of patience with these morons. I don’t have social media so normally I don’t come into contact with such people, but obviously Covid is big enough that we talk about it on WhatsApp etc.

A friend of mine is against the vaccine because he “doesn’t trust the government”. Tried to calmly explain that it’s more an issue of trusting science, which predictably had no impact. Today another of my friends who’s recovered from COVID was invited to donate plasma. The response from both these two and another of my friends was “fuck that”.

I cannot fathom the ignorance. I’ve stopped engaging with it as it will do no good and I will only wind myself up at an already anxious time. Infuriating.

I have just had it with them too. Been dealing with this absolute twat who abused both my mother and my sister on Twatbook earlier, they had only said that those who wouldn't wear a mask should not be going out - and this piece of trash called them all sorts.

Social Media need to be banning all such pondscum, and publicise such bans.
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« Reply #47481 on: January 14, 2021, 05:58:05 pm »
I have just had it with them too. Been dealing with this absolute twat who abused both my mother and my sister on Twatbook earlier, they had only said that those who wouldn't wear a mask should not be going out - and this piece of trash called them all sorts.

Social Media need to be banning all such pondscum, and publicise such bans.

I don't know how people can stand these big social networking sites at all. Just utter poison.
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« Reply #47482 on: January 14, 2021, 06:01:18 pm »
How do you deal with a fruitcake of an ex that insists your 15 year old son won't be getting vaccinated? She'll be registered as the contact with the GP, so any notification will go to her and she'll just either not tell me at all, or tell me she's got it but isn't allowing him to get the vaccine.

Don’t have an answer for you sorry. But when are kids due to get vaccinated anyway? Way down the line presumably?

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« Reply #47483 on: January 14, 2021, 06:06:12 pm »
The Times are reporting that the UK is preparing to vaccinate 500,000 people a day by next week. Interesting. That would be amazing if true really.

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« Reply #47484 on: January 14, 2021, 06:09:51 pm »
Imagine if it was Liverpool. It'd lead every news bulletin for days.

It's ok. Leeds haven't just won a trophy.

It's just people who have been indoors since last March letting off a little steam. Understandable hijinks. Move along, nothing to see...
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« Reply #47485 on: January 14, 2021, 06:10:38 pm »
The Times are reporting that the UK is preparing to vaccinate 500,000 people a day by next week. Interesting. That would be amazing if true really.

Brilliant news.

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« Reply #47486 on: January 14, 2021, 06:24:28 pm »
The Times are reporting that the UK is preparing to vaccinate 500,000 people a day by next week. Interesting. That would be amazing if true really.
Staggering amount. Wonder if people will start asking each other what vaccine they got ;D

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« Reply #47487 on: January 14, 2021, 06:25:11 pm »
The Times are reporting that the UK is preparing to vaccinate 500,000 people a day by next week. Interesting. That would be amazing if true really.

I think that’s what it will take to get to the government target, they have to do what about another 11-12 million people in the next 31 days, plus they might be some slowdown on the weekends so will need to hit 500,000 most days to reach their target of about 14 million people by 14/02/21.

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« Reply #47488 on: January 14, 2021, 06:28:27 pm »
Just witnessed an altercation in my local Tesco between staff and a bloke who refused to wear a mask, insisted he was medically exempt but they weren't having it, twat even threw a basket at one of the staff.

Good to see the supermarkets getting strict.

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« Reply #47489 on: January 14, 2021, 06:28:29 pm »
Is 500k sustainable going forwards from a supplies point of view, from AZ and Pfizer alone, or would we need Janssen and/or Novavax/Moderna to come through to maintain that?
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« Reply #47490 on: January 14, 2021, 06:40:10 pm »
R number in NI has dropped to 0.7-0.9 apparently and adopted same travel restrictions as those applicable in ROI.  Edging towards an all island approach after 9months. 

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« Reply #47491 on: January 14, 2021, 06:44:48 pm »
I think that’s what it will take to get to the government target, they have to do what about another 11-12 million people in the next 31 days, plus they might be some slowdown on the weekends so will need to hit 500,000 most days to reach their target of about 14 million people by 14/02/21.

These government targets are arbitrary and fairly pointless to be honest.

We need to be told 3 daily (or somewhat regularly) figures:
1) how many doses are in the UK, in vials, waiting for regulatory checks
2) how many doses are ready for use and currently in storage
3) how many doses have been given

The success or failure of this vaccination program isn't really down to hitting a target number - it's making sure that there is no bottleneck in the above. That large amounts of vaccine isn't waiting for long at the regulatory stage and isn't sitting in storage when it's ready for use.

If the government keep the dose numbers moving from 1 to 3 above at a steady pace, it's successful.  If they keep the flow of doses from 1 to 3 without very little time at any of those points, then all should be rightly applauded as it would be a level above successful. If there is a growing significant number of doses  in the 1 and 2 category above that isn't filtering through to 3 then they've failed - regardless of if they've hit or missed any target they set.

Just my opinion anyway.

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« Reply #47492 on: January 14, 2021, 06:48:05 pm »
Good news on vaccines...

We’ve vaccinated more today than the french have in total.


(Although there is an argument that the french have now vaccinated everyone in the country who isn’t an anitvax nut).

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« Reply #47493 on: January 14, 2021, 06:59:24 pm »
These government targets are arbitrary and fairly pointless to be honest.

We need to be told 3 daily (or somewhat regularly) figures:
1) how many doses are in the UK, in vials, waiting for regulatory checks
2) how many doses are ready for use and currently in storage
3) how many doses have been given

The success or failure of this vaccination program isn't really down to hitting a target number - it's making sure that there is no bottleneck in the above. That large amounts of vaccine isn't waiting for long at the regulatory stage and isn't sitting in storage when it's ready for use.

If the government keep the dose numbers moving from 1 to 3 above at a steady pace, it's successful.  If they keep the flow of doses from 1 to 3 without very little time at any of those points, then all should be rightly applauded as it would be a level above successful. If there is a growing significant number of doses  in the 1 and 2 category above that isn't filtering through to 3 then they've failed - regardless of if they've hit or missed any target they set.

Just my opinion anyway.

Oh, I agree on the target being pretty arbitrary but it’s a target the government have nailed their colours too, and if they can do 500,000 a day consistently (and that’s the key part - consistently) then that would suggest that the first two of the figures you raise are adequate to deliver the 3rd.

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« Reply #47494 on: January 14, 2021, 06:59:37 pm »
Don’t have an answer for you sorry. But when are kids due to get vaccinated anyway? Way down the line presumably?

Yeah it's ages away yet. I say 15, but he's still 14. Turns 15 in July and I expect he'll still be a few months away after that.
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« Reply #47495 on: January 14, 2021, 07:04:48 pm »
Situation in Manaus in Brazil sounds awful, for somewhere that supposedly had hit herd immunity already, now running out of Oxygen to treat patients.

Hopefully not a case where new variants are becoming problems for those who have previously had the illness

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« Reply #47496 on: January 14, 2021, 07:12:58 pm »
Situation in Manaus in Brazil sounds awful, for somewhere that supposedly had hit herd immunity already, now running out of Oxygen to treat patients.

Hopefully not a case where new variants are becoming problems for those who have previously had the illness

206k dead in Brazil.  Globally only the US has more deaths at this point.  So over half a million dead between Bolsanaro and Trump administrations.

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« Reply #47497 on: January 14, 2021, 07:14:31 pm »
Situation in Manaus in Brazil sounds awful, for somewhere that supposedly had hit herd immunity already, now running out of Oxygen to treat patients.

Hopefully not a case where new variants are becoming problems for those who have previously had the illness

It’s down to luck what mutations we end up with, but by allowing the virus to spread unabated as they are doing in some parts of the world the more opportunities for the virus to mutate, the greater the chance for one of those mutations to be take us right back to the beginning of this.

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« Reply #47498 on: January 14, 2021, 07:38:11 pm »
Yeah it's ages away yet. I say 15, but he's still 14. Turns 15 in July and I expect he'll still be a few months away after that.
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« Reply #47499 on: January 14, 2021, 07:46:14 pm »
206k dead in Brazil.  Globally only the US has more deaths at this point.  So over half a million dead between Bolsanaro and Trump administrations.

Brazil will of course have a lot more deaths as they have a population of 200m plus. Yet per 1m population UK is far far ahead, (UK 1,245 Per m / Brazil 966 per m)

Could it be down to the people in the UK, the anti-maskers, the 'your not telling me what to do' brigade, covid deniers, conspiracy nuts, selfish fucks, 'I'm alright jacks', self-righteous, is there so many more people in the UK with really shit attitudes like this? Maybe it isn't that at all and is a lot more nuanced but if we think our government is better than Brazils or Americas then I don't really know what else it can be.

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« Reply #47500 on: January 14, 2021, 08:01:23 pm »
Anyone know what's the latest on schools? are they all supposed to be back on Monday?

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« Reply #47501 on: January 14, 2021, 08:02:36 pm »
Anyone know what's the latest on schools? are they all supposed to be back on Monday?

All closed until Feb half term aren't they?

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« Reply #47502 on: January 14, 2021, 08:02:54 pm »
Anyone know what's the latest on schools? are they all supposed to be back on Monday?
After half term.... but is suspect that’s unlikely..

I was talking to a group of people on a zoom conference today.  One is in a special school which is still open.

They’ve had real problems with the lateral flow tests.  Said they got negatives on a Friday and then loads with symptoms and positive PCR tests on Monday .....

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« Reply #47503 on: January 14, 2021, 08:04:36 pm »
Brazil will of course have a lot more deaths as they have a population of 200m plus. Yet per 1m population UK is far far ahead, (UK 1,245 Per m / Brazil 966 per m)

Could it be down to the people in the UK, the anti-maskers, the 'your not telling me what to do' brigade, covid deniers, conspiracy nuts, selfish fucks, 'I'm alright jacks', self-righteous, is there so many more people in the UK with really shit attitudes like this? Maybe it isn't that at all and is a lot more nuanced but if we think our government is better than Brazils or Americas then I don't really know what else it can be.

I would take the numbers from many developing country with a pinch of salt to be honest, healthcare is often patchy at best and they often don’t have the means to carry out test and autopsies etc, they are also probably more prone to government interference and pressure in the numbers.

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« Reply #47504 on: January 14, 2021, 08:04:39 pm »
Oh are they? sorry don't know what the latest info is...  is this for all schools (primary included) or just secondary and higher...   

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« Reply #47505 on: January 14, 2021, 08:04:50 pm »
Anyone know what's the latest on schools? are they all supposed to be back on Monday?
They’re not reopening until after February half term at the earliest was my understanding.

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« Reply #47506 on: January 14, 2021, 08:07:36 pm »
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« Reply #47507 on: January 14, 2021, 08:08:52 pm »
Brazil will of course have a lot more deaths as they have a population of 200m plus. Yet per 1m population UK is far far ahead, (UK 1,245 Per m / Brazil 966 per m)

Could it be down to the people in the UK, the anti-maskers, the 'your not telling me what to do' brigade, covid deniers, conspiracy nuts, selfish fucks, 'I'm alright jacks', self-righteous, is there so many more people in the UK with really shit attitudes like this? Maybe it isn't that at all and is a lot more nuanced but if we think our government is better than Brazils or Americas then I don't really know what else it can be.

It is a different climate in Brazil as well. They're in the middle of their summer and we're in the middle of our winter, so it's difficult to compare like for like.
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« Reply #47508 on: January 14, 2021, 08:09:58 pm »
Oh are they? sorry don't know what the latest info is...  is this for all schools (primary included) or just secondary and higher...   

All schools mate, it was announced at the same time is the new lockdown. They're still open for children of key workers but Gavin Williamson has made it so that everyone who works is a key worker...

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« Reply #47509 on: January 14, 2021, 08:19:56 pm »
All schools mate, it was announced at the same time is the new lockdown. They're still open for children of key workers but Gavin Williamson has made it so that everyone who works is a key worker...
Cheers mate, gotta tell my sister to call her daughters' primary school up to confirm (it's in Ealing, London) and they sent them a letter at the time (January 4th) saying it will only be for 2 weeks and didn't update them further (they're usually quite good with this sort of thing, through e-mail, SMS etc).

I think quite a few parents will be under the impression that it will be back to school on Monday unless they update everyone, will double check tomorrow!

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« Reply #47510 on: January 14, 2021, 08:29:16 pm »
Cheers mate, gotta tell my sister to call her daughters' primary school up to confirm (it's in Ealing, London) and they sent them a letter at the time (January 4th) saying it will only be for 2 weeks and didn't update them further (they're usually quite good with this sort of thing, through e-mail, SMS etc).

I think quite a few parents will be under the impression that it will be back to school on Monday unless they update everyone, will double check tomorrow!
That was the position on the very first day, but the government has since updated it.
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« Reply #47511 on: January 14, 2021, 08:34:50 pm »
That was the position on the very first day, but the government has since updated it.
Cheers mate, the school have said owt and the website doesn't say anything new either so I'll get her to call them tomorrow, think they should make it clearer probably. The latest on there still says 2 weeks from the 4th of Jan!

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« Reply #47512 on: January 14, 2021, 08:46:54 pm »
Cheers mate, the school have said owt and the website doesn't say anything new either so I'll get her to call them tomorrow, think they should make it clearer probably. The latest on there still says 2 weeks from the 4th of Jan!
They will have forgotten to update it.

It will be half term at the earliest, and most likely March (optimistically )
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« Reply #47513 on: January 14, 2021, 08:50:17 pm »
Yeah I did wonder about it, seeing as all the headlines are pointing to a worsening situation. Hopefully they'll send out an updated communication tomorrow. To be fair they got the initial news to lockdown very, very late, so it is all a bit chaotic.

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« Reply #47514 on: January 14, 2021, 08:55:49 pm »
48,682 new cases today.

Have they said how many have died as I heard Vallance say the figures will be high for the next few weeks.

Hopefully we start hitting 500k vaccines as The Times suggests too.

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« Reply #47515 on: January 14, 2021, 08:57:14 pm »
Have they said how many have died as I heard Vallance say the figures will be high for the next few weeks.

Hopefully we start hitting 500k vaccines as The Times suggests too.

Deaths numbers still not out, reporting issues today

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« Reply #47516 on: January 14, 2021, 08:57:34 pm »
Yeah I did wonder about it, seeing as all the headlines are pointing to a worsening situation. Hopefully they'll send out an updated communication tomorrow. To be fair they got the initial news to lockdown very, very late, so it is all a bit chaotic.

All England schools are closed to students unless key worker kids until February half term. Wales, we're until the 29th at the earliest.

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« Reply #47517 on: January 14, 2021, 09:02:50 pm »
Deaths numbers still not out, reporting issues today

Cheers mate

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« Reply #47518 on: January 14, 2021, 09:21:20 pm »
R number in NI has dropped to 0.7-0.9 apparently and adopted same travel restrictions as those applicable in ROI.  Edging towards an all island approach after 9months. 

About time but a tad too late as the R rate down south is closer to 3. Will be interesting to see how they roll out the vaccines to meet their goal of 4m by end of the summer as right now 75k have just received their first doses.
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« Reply #47519 on: January 14, 2021, 09:23:33 pm »
All England schools are closed to students unless key worker kids until February half term. Wales, we're until the 29th at the earliest.
Cheers, yeah I guess it's nationwide. Makes sense.