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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #80 on: May 4, 2011, 06:48:52 pm »
"Early days" being the operative word.

It really isn't going too far to say he is better than Casillas. He is after all the one that has been playing in a team that has won numerous trophies. Great GK, as good as Pepe i'd say.

I would love to see Valdes in another team to see how well he does, the fact he is not Spain number one obviously tells you something.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #81 on: May 4, 2011, 06:49:15 pm »
You post some ridiculous tripe sometimes.

Valdes is as good as Pepe.

Ok.
Valdes isnt even half the keeper reina is.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #82 on: May 4, 2011, 06:49:24 pm »
That was just one of his mistakes, I've seen him make a lot of mistakes in his early days, but since he has got older (When everyone started following them) he has got better. But to say he's better than Iker Cassilas is a bit far.

The same Casillas who has made a lot of errors over the past 2 seasons?

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #83 on: May 4, 2011, 06:50:30 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #84 on: May 4, 2011, 06:51:02 pm »
The same Casillas who has made a lot of errors over the past 2 seasons?

But still won the world cup with Spain?
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #85 on: May 4, 2011, 06:51:05 pm »
He hasn't been rated in years, has he??

The little hunchbacked cretin.

Why hasn't anybody mentioned Diego Capel! :P


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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #86 on: May 4, 2011, 06:51:10 pm »
You post some ridiculous tripe sometimes.

Valdes is as good as Pepe.

Ok.
Jesus, how insular can you get?

To be honest, not arsed about persuading people how good a GK Valdes is. So...whatever.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #87 on: May 4, 2011, 06:51:17 pm »
Don't see any mention of John Terry in this thread yet...

John Terry is an incredible defender. Deffo one of the best I've ever seen. Would you say that if he was wearing red for the last 10 years?

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #88 on: May 4, 2011, 06:52:32 pm »
John Terry is an incredible defender. Deffo one of the best I've ever seen.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #89 on: May 4, 2011, 06:53:14 pm »
John Terry is an incredible defender. Deffo one of the best I've ever seen. Would you say that if he was wearing red for the last 10 years?
Plus he blocks shots with diving headers.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #90 on: May 4, 2011, 06:54:44 pm »
Jesus, how insular can you get?

To be honest, not arsed about persuaded people how good a GK Valdes is. So...whatever.

Aren't you a Madrid fan? How high are you when you come on here?
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #91 on: May 4, 2011, 06:55:25 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #92 on: May 4, 2011, 06:56:42 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #93 on: May 4, 2011, 06:57:03 pm »
Iker Casillas.

There are at least 4 goal keepers better than him.

As much as I love Pepe, none of them are better than Casillas. I find this view that a lot of people seem to have that he's overrated very strange. Just about the best GK in the world for me.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #94 on: May 4, 2011, 06:58:03 pm »
Songs in the Key of Life is beautiful. Thank you.

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Haha. Where is he weak? He's good tackler, header of the ball, scores goals, can pick a pass, is no slouch, is a leader and has organisational skills. Apart from being an absolute fucking twat, I can't fault him as a player. Chelsea let in very few goals each year and he's the main reason why imo.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #95 on: May 4, 2011, 07:00:49 pm »
As much as I love Pepe, none of them are better than Casillas. I find this view that a lot of people seem to have that he's overrated very strange. Just about the best GK in the world for me.

He's basically a better version of Shay Given, his presence in the penalty area is shite, his distribution is pants too, hence most of his long kicks going straight to Pique and Mascherano yesterday, yes the minute Mascherano was winning headers.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #96 on: May 4, 2011, 07:08:35 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #97 on: May 4, 2011, 07:10:51 pm »
But still won the world cup with Spain?

Yes. He's a fantastic keeper, just not as good as he was.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #98 on: May 4, 2011, 07:11:40 pm »
He's basically a better version of Shay Given, his presence in the penalty area is shite, his distribution is pants too, hence most of his long kicks going straight to Pique and Mascherano yesterday, yes the minute Mascherano was winning headers.

And someone always always say he's the Spanish Shay Given. Yeh sure he is.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #99 on: May 4, 2011, 07:12:43 pm »
As much as I love Pepe, none of them are better than Casillas. I find this view that a lot of people seem to have that he's overrated very strange. Just about the best GK in the world for me.
He's prone to too many errors, for him to be classed as the best GK in the world. Still world class though and the best shot stopper around.

He's basically a better version of Shay Given, his presence in the penalty area is shite, his distribution is pants too, hence most of his long kicks going straight to Pique and Mascherano yesterday, yes the minute Mascherano was winning headers.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #100 on: May 4, 2011, 07:15:44 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #101 on: May 4, 2011, 07:27:35 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #102 on: May 4, 2011, 07:31:46 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #103 on: May 4, 2011, 07:34:43 pm »
Essien, ibrahimovic, pepe (madrid), and ribery

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #104 on: May 4, 2011, 07:35:48 pm »
Fletcher, Bale and Fellaini.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #105 on: May 4, 2011, 07:37:45 pm »
John Terry is an incredible defender. Deffo one of the best I've ever seen. Would you say that if he was wearing red for the last 10 years?

Yes.

When Carvalho was still wearing blue Terry wasn't even the best defender at Chelsea.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #106 on: May 4, 2011, 07:47:49 pm »
Might be slated for saying this, but I feel Fabregas is over rated. He's a good player, yes, but certainly not the ohmygodhe'sanepicworldbeater.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #107 on: May 4, 2011, 07:58:47 pm »
Wilshire. He is good but not Englands great hope as he is made out to be.

Gareth Bale. Good but not amazing. I can't imagine what the hype would be like if he was English.

Casillas. Not being biased but I have no idea why he is Spains GK before Reina.

Balotelli. Had potential but he seems to just not care. Seen nothing from him at City.

I have a big list in my brain but I can't seem to remember a lot of them. Those are the main ones for me anyways.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #108 on: May 4, 2011, 08:01:33 pm »
John O'Shea - has won more trophies than the likes of Gerrard, Carra and Reina yet i don't think he'd get in a pub team.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #109 on: May 4, 2011, 08:09:10 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #110 on: May 4, 2011, 08:10:21 pm »
John O'Shea - has won more trophies than the likes of Gerrard, Carra and Reina yet i don't think he'd get in a pub team.

He's captaining one tonight.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #111 on: May 4, 2011, 08:10:58 pm »
What about Vidic? He's great at a lot of things (tackling, strength, heading) but his stupidity lets him down. He seems to do something that warrants being sent off every time I watch him play. There was a brilliant quote from Van Persie regarding the handball attempt at the weekend:

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A lot of people seem to rate him up with Puyol as the best in the world. I don't think he'll ever reach that level because of his lack of brains.

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #112 on: May 4, 2011, 08:18:22 pm »
I think Agger is over rated by some Liverpool fans.

A lot of people would call him 'world class'. To me that means he's in the top 2 or 3 players in his position in the World. I doubt many non Liverpool fans would say Agger is world class.

Before anyone jumps down my throat I'm not saying he isn't a very good player. Far from it, he is a very good player just not as good as many people on here would have you believe.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #113 on: May 4, 2011, 08:32:59 pm »
He's captaining one tonight.

Christ I didn't know he'd moved to Schalke!
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #114 on: May 4, 2011, 08:42:03 pm »
Christ I didn't know he'd moved to Schalke!

Schalke are nowhere near that level!
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« Reply #115 on: May 4, 2011, 08:43:03 pm »
Schalke are nowhere near that level!

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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #116 on: May 4, 2011, 09:13:07 pm »
It's absolutely hilarious how underrated Valdes is on Rawk, the guy has been turning in brilliant performance's for going on 3 years now.

He is a phenomonal goalkeeper, brilliant at commanding his area, best in the buisness at making the goal as small as possible, his distribution whilst not Reina good, is as close as you'll get to that level.

He should be Spain's number 1 imo. I know people like Sid Lowe, Guillem Balague, and Graham Hunter all feel the samw way.
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #117 on: May 4, 2011, 09:15:20 pm »
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #118 on: May 4, 2011, 09:22:36 pm »
i dont see how is Bale overrated... he's not overrated and he's not underrated...he's well rated

lets be honest,under right manager he can become superb player...and Harry isnt that manager
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Re: Most Overrated Footballers?
« Reply #119 on: May 4, 2011, 09:44:35 pm »
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