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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #720 on: February 7, 2015, 09:17:20 pm »
You're kidding yourself if top players don't want to play CL football.
Year by year the sterlings, Henderson's etc will leave for CL football if offered.
Plus no CL means it harder to get top quality players in unless you pay massive wages which we don't seem to want to do.
Now FFP as well as it will mean no CL money.

Of course CL matters.

Yep agree with you on this one. CL qualification is very important. I wish it wasn't so much, but it is.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #721 on: February 7, 2015, 09:17:53 pm »
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #722 on: February 7, 2015, 09:19:07 pm »
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #723 on: February 7, 2015, 09:19:10 pm »
Lallana's a goal threat even when he plays poorly he registers shots on target something that can't really be said by Henderson and Gerrard.
Gerrard does not have the reflexes to play in our attack. Thought Henderson had a decent game. Lallana despite his poor form recently would have been a huge improvement on a clearly struggling, off the pace, low-key Gerrard.
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #724 on: February 7, 2015, 09:19:17 pm »
How big is the spike in Cl money rewards next season?

About one and a half Lovrens. ;)

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #725 on: February 7, 2015, 09:20:08 pm »
Why was Sturridge dropping so deep when he came on?

Gave Sterling and Gerrard no space to operate in. Sterling when up by himself was providing some threat in behind often which is when we looked most dangerous.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #726 on: February 7, 2015, 09:20:34 pm »
One technical point I noticed was when Henderson would receive the ball from the center backs he had a lot of space up the field and failed to notice it multiple times.  The few times he did make a positive first touch up the field things were wide open and produced some of our best play where we moved the ball between the lines.  If Llovren or another CB could come back into the team at some point I would really like to see a midfield with Can linking the play and driving us forward out of the back. 

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #727 on: February 7, 2015, 09:20:39 pm »
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #728 on: February 7, 2015, 09:22:09 pm »
About one and a half Lovrens. ;)
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #729 on: February 7, 2015, 09:22:11 pm »
Gerrard was very poor for me in that game, times in the first half I genuinely forgot he was on the pitch. Sad in his last derby, but it almost felt like the occasion had got to him. Strange thing to say about Stevie that like, but that was how it felt.

He just looked fucked. As did Sterling to be fair. I mistakenly thought he was just holding back against Bolton the other day, but no. It seems he was fucked in that game as well. It's a shame Lallana was injured because I think he may of replaced Stevie at some point had he been fit.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #730 on: February 7, 2015, 09:22:46 pm »
Gerrard does not have the reflexes to play in our attack. Thought Henderson had a decent game. Lallana despite his poor form recently would have been a huge improvement on a clearly struggling, off the pace, low-key Gerrard.
Lallana presses better than Henderson whose pressing is over rated. He needs to learn how to pace himself he always runs himself into the ground. Lallana presses well and he likes to shoot and run beyond our strikers. Something Gerrard and Coutinho didn't do enough in the first half. Sterling just needs that player to run beyond him when he is facing his back to the goal. Not a bunch of AM's playing deeper like CM's.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #731 on: February 7, 2015, 09:23:37 pm »
We beat a Spurs team that were in their second game with a new manager. They were better then the 3-0.

They are a very good side.

I'm not saying they aren't a good side. We are better though.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #732 on: February 7, 2015, 09:24:24 pm »
He just looked fucked. As did Sterling to be fair. I mistakenly thought he was just holding back against Bolton the other day, but no. It seems he was fucked in that game as well. It's a shame Lallana was injured because I think he may of replaced Stevie at some point had he been fit.

My main worry before the game was energy. We didn't have a lot of it, Sterling as you say looked kettled and Gerrard was too.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #733 on: February 7, 2015, 09:26:30 pm »
You're kidding yourself if top players don't want to play CL football.
Year by year the sterlings, Henderson's etc will leave for CL football if offered.
Plus no CL means it harder to get top quality players in unless you pay massive wages which we don't seem to want to do.
Now FFP as well as it will mean no CL money.

Of course CL matters.

If we are not in the top 4 next yearthen yes they will leave. But continue like this and we can challenge next season. 2 of our 3 best players signed new contracts this season so i very much doubt there will be a clamour to leave. Plus we only need 1 or 2 players that are really good. One season without CL wont kill us.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #734 on: February 7, 2015, 09:26:51 pm »
My main worry before the game was energy. We didn't have a lot of it, Sterling as you say looked kettled and Gerrard was too.

That's the thing that could stop us from making top 4, not our ability. But Spurs will have exactly the same problems as us.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #735 on: February 7, 2015, 09:30:50 pm »
Skrtel was as good as flawless today. Covered for Sakho on numerous times and ensured Can played Lukaku offside every chance they had.

He was excellent. Best performance of the season from him!
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #736 on: February 7, 2015, 09:33:05 pm »
On the plus side, Tuesday night could be the night for Mario.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #737 on: February 7, 2015, 09:34:09 pm »
That's the thing that could stop us from making top 4, not our ability. But Spurs will have exactly the same problems as us.

Absolutely mate. It makes you wonder about the top 4 challenge or winning the Europa. Our schedule coming up is a bit on the brutal side as well.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #738 on: February 7, 2015, 09:37:03 pm »
Absolutely mate. It makes you wonder about the top 4 challenge or winning the Europa. Our schedule coming up is a bit on the brutal side as well.

We can go for both but, we need the squad players who haven't been pulling their weight to start doing their bit, for us to stand a chance.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #739 on: February 7, 2015, 09:37:53 pm »
If we are not in the top 4 next yearthen yes they will leave. But continue like this and we can challenge next season. 2 of our 3 best players signed new contracts this season so i very much doubt there will be a clamour to leave. Plus we only need 1 or 2 players that are really good. One season without CL wont kill us.

We need to get it in this year or certain players won't join us as they will feel last year was a one off.

The aim of the season would of to finish in the top 4. Let's not kid ourselves it's not important too.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #740 on: February 7, 2015, 09:38:28 pm »
On the plus side, Tuesday night could be the night for Mario.

We keep saying "this could be his night" don't we? But it never seems to be. Let's just hope the next time he contributes it IS his night.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #741 on: February 7, 2015, 09:41:21 pm »
Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC  30m30 minutes ago
Only Rafa Benitez has won more points than Brendan Rodgers in their first 100 games as #LFC manager (186 v 184)
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #742 on: February 7, 2015, 09:43:05 pm »
We need to get it in this year or certain players won't join us as they will feel last year was a one off.

The aim of the season would of to finish in the top 4. Let's not kid ourselves it's not important too.

It is important but this season its not a be all and end all situation. Not long ago there were serious concerns over whether Rodgers would survive the winter and I didnt think he could ever assemble a side that could defend. Well through his tactical ability he has shown he can and as well the likes of Coutinho, Can and Lucas have shone.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #743 on: February 7, 2015, 09:43:48 pm »
Only looked like being one winner today. Very negative tactics from Everton, normally the type of thing they do at Anfield.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #744 on: February 7, 2015, 09:44:03 pm »
Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC  30m30 minutes ago
Only Rafa Benitez has won more points than Brendan Rodgers in their first 100 games as #LFC manager (186 v 184)

Interesting stat if correct. No mega rich city back then either...
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #745 on: February 7, 2015, 09:45:58 pm »
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #746 on: February 7, 2015, 09:48:53 pm »
One technical point I noticed was when Henderson would receive the ball from the center backs he had a lot of space up the field and failed to notice it multiple times.  The few times he did make a positive first touch up the field things were wide open and produced some of our best play where we moved the ball between the lines.  If Llovren or another CB could come back into the team at some point I would really like to see a midfield with Can linking the play and driving us forward out of the back.

yeah i noticed that it was crying out for someone to drive through the midfield and commit some Everton midfielders. Henderson did it a couple of times but not enough. If it was another game Rodgers might have taken more risks and moved Can there but its not a game you want to lose either.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #747 on: February 7, 2015, 09:49:01 pm »
We beat a Spurs team that were in their second game with a new manager. They were better then the 3-0.

They are a very good side.
I think they are a average side who are pushing their luck. If 'somehow' we make sure that Eriksen and Kane have to leave field early on Tuesday, it won't even be a contest.

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« Reply #748 on: February 7, 2015, 09:50:11 pm »
We do seem to be building a team.  There is still work to be done, particularly a keeper and a striker, but our best 11 is coming together.  Assuming Can eventually moves to DM in a 4-2-3-1 set up he would play along side Henderson with Allan and Lucas as backup.  Then we have 3 from Coutinho, Sterling, Ibe, Lallana and Markovic, with Sturridge up top backed up by whoever stays in the summer.  Moreno, Skrtel and Sakho would be 3 of a back 4.  RB should be Flanno, but that depends on how he comes back after his injury.  The building blocks are in place.  With players like Aspas, Alberto, Borini and Mario likely to be sold, and Gerrard, Toure and Johnson probably off the payroll FSG will not have to dig too deep into their pockets to fill in the current gaps.

As for this season, unfortunately it will be difficult to make the top 4 mainly because we are chasing too many teams.  Europa league might be our best chance of making CL.
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #749 on: February 7, 2015, 09:52:44 pm »
We keep saying "this could be his night" don't we? But it never seems to be. Let's just hope the next time he contributes it IS his night.
Touche my friend. I was making light of this way of thinking..

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #750 on: February 7, 2015, 09:52:49 pm »
Personally I feel that regardless of getting top four or not, we need to change our stance on transfers, refusing to pay player wages over £100k a week may seem wise but when you see United, without CL sign Di Maria and Falcao (on loan)  putting them on ridiculous wage, proving that if we offer the players the money their willing to join
join.

So top four or not, or priority for me is scrapping the transfer policy we currently have and try and create one that's within FFP and can sign players of Di Maria's quality.
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #751 on: February 7, 2015, 09:52:54 pm »
Interesting stat if correct. No mega rich city back then either...
Yeah but United were a good team back then so that cancels that out.
I agree with those who thought Everton played like the away team. Especially the ones in the 70s and 80s

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #752 on: February 7, 2015, 09:53:00 pm »
I think we looked tired. I am glad defense is clicking. Migs continued to be good. Phil and Sterling were taken off to be fresher on Tuesday. So annoying we did not score. Too bad Saints won today.

We beat Spurs and Saints and we are still in it. That's going to be tough though.

It looked at the end Rogers said draw is good enough. I mean why take Phil off.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #753 on: February 7, 2015, 09:53:42 pm »
I think they are a average side who are pushing their luck. If 'somehow' we make sure that Eriksen and Kane have to leave field early on Tuesday, it won't even be a contest.

Funnily enough thats what Everton said about us with Lucas and Coutinho earlier today!  ;D
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #754 on: February 7, 2015, 09:57:22 pm »

Forgot to say, thought Mignolet was outstanding today, made a superb save to deny Coleman and commanded his area brilliantly. Looks a completely ddifferent player from what he was 3 months ago.
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #755 on: February 7, 2015, 09:59:54 pm »
Personally I feel that regardless of getting top four or not, we need to change our stance on transfers, refusing to pay player wages over £100k a week may seem wise but when you see United, without CL sign Di Maria and Falcao (on loan)  putting them on ridiculous wage, proving that if we offer the players the money their willing to join
join.

So top four or not, or priority for me is scrapping the transfer policy we currently have and try and create one that's within FFP and can sign players of Di Maria's quality.


Both sterling and Hendo could demand 100k wages per week if they want. It should come as no shock if we lose both of them.

The club are creating a problem by this stance they seem to be having.

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #756 on: February 7, 2015, 10:01:11 pm »
Both sterling and Hendo could demand 100k wages per week if they want. It should come as no shock if we lose both of them.

The club are creating a problem by this stance they seem to be having.

You can add Sturridge, Coutinho, Sakho and Can to that list aswell.
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #757 on: February 7, 2015, 10:02:09 pm »
Both sterling and Hendo could demand 100k wages per week if they want. It should come as no shock if we lose both of them.
So now you rate Henderson?

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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #758 on: February 7, 2015, 10:03:21 pm »
You can add Sturridge, Coutinho, Sakho and Can to that list aswell.

:lmao

Can? He's been here about three hours.

And Sturridge and Coutinho have both signed new long term contracts and didn't demand 100k a week.
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Re: Everton 0 - 0 Liverpool Full time meh
« Reply #759 on: February 7, 2015, 10:03:52 pm »
I can't believe they parked the bus at home. One shot on target?

Has moyes actually left?

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