Topic: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales

[Crosby Nick]

New Zealand always deliver at the big stage. ALWAYS! (Cricket, Rugby) WTF is in their DNA? Any Kiwis over here?

Well a lot of them are of Scottish descent so we can rule that part out.

[Chivasino]

As they've got the largest talent pool and the most cash they could just dominate in the near future in all formats, so every defeat is a win for everyone else in the game of cricket.

So why do you hate them?

[Red-Soldier]

I don't hate India, it's just nice to see the underdog win.  Be nice if the underdog wins in the second semi too 

I'd rather play NZ in the final than India.

[bornandbRED]

Read it again.

'They have the largest talent pool'. This refers to the amount of people available to play for the national team, no? Peculiar reason to dislike them.

[voodoo ray]

'They have the largest talent pool'. This refers to the amount of people available to play for the national team, no? Peculiar reason to dislike them.

You're concentrating on a few words and not reading the entire sentence. So, as i said, read it again.

[voodoo ray]

So why do you hate them?

I don't hate them, (except jadeja), I just quite like seeing them lose.

[Scottymuser]

England and Wales will win the rugby one, it’s fine.

How will that happen, given they are two different teams?  Or is this a continuation of the "X vs Y? Yes" meme?

[Bangin Them In]

How will that happen, given they are two different teams?  Or is this a continuation of the "X vs Y? Yes" meme?

I think it's a copy and paste from the last two RWC

[bornandbRED]

You're concentrating on a few words and not reading the entire sentence. So, as i said, read it again.

Indeed I am, as that is the part of your statement that I have an issue with. What are you not understanding about that?

[Welshred]

How will that happen, given they are two different teams?  Or is this a continuation of the "X vs Y? Yes" meme?

It's a joke about the ECB being the England and Wales Cricket Board.

[voodoo ray]

Indeed I am, as that is the part of your statement that I have an issue with. What are you not understanding about that?

because on it's own it isn't what I said. you can't just take a few words of a larger statement and have a moan about them when on their own they're not what was said.


actually, you know what? you crack on. I can't be arsed with this any longer.

["Nookie".]

Indeed I am, as that is the part of your statement that I have an issue with. What are you not understanding about that?

Who would you be rooting for in a football match between Germany and Moldova? You'd expect Germany to win, but if there was any chance for Moldova you'd be jumping all over the place if they took the lead.

David vs Goliath

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

New Zealand always deliver at the big stage. ALWAYS! (Cricket, Rugby) WTF is in their DNA? Any Kiwis over here?

Why you think Stokes is so good?

[Andar]

New Zealand always deliver at the big stage. ALWAYS! (Cricket, Rugby) WTF is in their DNA? Any Kiwis over here?

Not sure that's true. Didn't they have issues in the Rugby for a long time? The 90's and 00's they were questioned a lot for their mentality.

Yet to win a Cricket World Cup too.

It's the Aussies innate make-up you have to admire. Deliver in most sports they take seriously.

[Bangin Them In]

Not sure that's true. Didn't they have issues in the Rugby for a long time? The 90's and 00's they were questioned a lot for their mentality.

Yet to win a Cricket World Cup too.

It's the Aussies innate make-up you have to admire. Deliver in most sports they take seriously.

A tiny country that battle with the best and you find issues, won 2 RWC in a row and now in two CWC finals in a row

4 Million population

Ok

[Lee1-6Liv]

Who would you be rooting for in a football match between Germany and Moldova? You'd expect Germany to win, but if there was any chance for Moldova you'd be jumping all over the place if they took the lead.

David vs Goliath

Its not really, its more like Germany and Netherlands.

[Andar]

A tiny country that battle with the best and you find issues, won 2 RWC in a row and now in two CWC finals in a row

4 Million population

Ok

Fair enough, maybe harsh to call out their lack of a Cricket World Cup.

Though i think it's fair to point out how they had issues in the Rugby for a fair bit.

[nicholasanthony]

Fair enough, maybe harsh to call out their lack of a Cricket World Cup.

Though i think it's fair to point out how they had issues in the Rugby for a fair bit.

No. You were correct.

[TepidT2O]

A tiny country that battle with the best and you find issues, won 2 RWC in a row and now in two CWC finals in a row

4 Million population

Ok

Yet they can’t say the word six properly.

That tells us all we need to know about their tricky and devious ways.

[Fordy]

So thoughts on England v Aussies semi final then.

[BobPaisley3]

So thoughts on England v Aussies semi final then.

Toss crucial. Don’t fancy England to chase down a big score.

[voodoo ray]

england score 700, australia all out for 9

[bornandbRED]

because on it's own it isn't what I said. you can't just take a few words of a larger statement and have a moan about them when on their own they're not what was said.


actually, you know what? you crack on. I can't be arsed with this any longer.

You stated two reasons as to why India winning would somehow be a terrible thing for the sport as a whole. I questioned one of them specifically. I’m not sure what your issue is here.

Well done on throwing your toys out of the pram though.

[bornandbRED]

Who would you be rooting for in a football match between Germany and Moldova? You'd expect Germany to win, but if there was any chance for Moldova you'd be jumping all over the place if they took the lead.

David vs Goliath

Well, I certainly wouldn’t be telling people that Germany are a blight on the game because they have a wide selection of players to chose from.

[demain]

Not ashamed to admit it, I hate the Indian cricket team because of the BCCI. The way they've essentially cornered the other boards into submission and stopped the game from growing stinks to high heaven. No one likes a bully, any time they lose is cause for delight.

I'm generalizing but their fans tend to be entitled, whining crybabies most of the time. The empty seats when India are losing or even the stunned silence when an opposing batsman hits a boundary is hilarious.

That is not to say that I don't have a lot of time for Virat Kohli and his talent or sheer commitment to test cricket. It's the board and their politics, and some of the supporters, that make me want to always support their opponent, unless they're playing Australia in which case it's fair game  .

[demain]

england score 700, australia all out for 9

Want them to beat the record set by the Mali women against Rwanda a few weeks ago, so basically 5 all out.

[tornado]

Dhoni now is like the DM who always passes backwards and sideways (no reference to anything else said on these football threads and some still think he is a tactical genius. In the past he had a killer forward pass in his locker but its gone now.
Saw a few comments on Kohli above, I think his post match comments were on the money today and very respectful. He has matured a lot from this early years.
Also, a few comments on BCCI - not the biggest fan in terms of how they have conducted themselves in the past but how exactly have they stopped the game from growing? I think their efforts in supporting the first class structure and test cricket in general have been good. Money rules in cricket just like everywhere else and people dont like it but overall for cricket globally, the same money helps.

[demain]

Also, a few comments on BCCI - not the biggest fan in terms of how they have conducted themselves in the past but how exactly have they stopped the game from growing? I think their efforts in supporting the first class structure and test cricket in general have been good. Money rules in cricket just like everywhere else and people dont like it but overall for cricket globally, the same money helps.

1. Failure to countenance cricket's inclusion in the Olympics because it would dilute power and they would have to deal with the Indian Olympic Association and share the spoils

2. Forming a cabal with the ECB and CA and then running a protection racket by going to the opposing boards one-by-one and dictating they accept the new order or else be left behind, yes I know that there was a slight improvement in the distribution of ICC funds later, but it's still skewed towards the big boys to the detriment of the boards that really need that support

3. Bullying other boards by refusing to play with them unless they agree to scheduling demands or in the case of South Africa, removing the Chief Executive because they didn't like him

4. The whole shenanigans in refusing to accept DRS a few years ago

5. Muzzling of commentators to provide objective commentary

I don't give a fuck about the capitalist argument, the administrators have failed the game and the BCCI's politics are one of the biggest reasons behind that.

[Frank Becton]

Where have all these cricket fans suddenly come from?

Anyway back to today's cricket, could go either way, toss could be important, at least it will feel like a home game for England.
Worried about Starc he really is top class, how both teams opener's start the game will go a long way to deciding who wins.

[voodoo ray]

You stated two reasons as to why India winning would somehow be a terrible thing for the sport as a whole. I questioned one of them specifically. I’m not sure what your issue is here.

Well done on throwing your toys out of the pram though.

it's one fucking reason. a + b = c. my issue is with c, not a or b on their own.

I can't make it any fucking simpler.

[redk84]

1st generation Indian here....have lurked on this thread and not posted because generally dont get the need to post on "rival" fans threads (majority here being england fans).

I get the dislike for BCCI. Nobs for the most part not too disimilar to FIFA/UEFA/FA etc
I get the dislike of Kohli. Definitely someone who rubs people the wrong way especially in the past but personally as a fan I love the confidence and aggressiveness he's brought to the Indian team who've been passive for most of my life.
And let's face it, not like Aussies/England dont have players that can be perceived that way from an opposing view. And fans are fans....some are twats, some aren't. As this board has shown up too

Hard to bite the tongue as some of the comments ive read on here in regards to Indians in general (for some reason?) been shocking to be honest and not just "banter"
If India don't do well I generally want England to as I was born here and though thats not been helped by shit I've read off here and other comments sections on BBC etc. but whatever, is what it is

Actual opinion on the match yesterday - middle order was shown up. 4/5/6 is an issue for India though Pant has good potential, his temperament is an issue but at 21 its bound to be. Rayudu was a shout for that position perhaps?
Maybe Agarwal should have been brought in as soon as Dhawan got injured and given a shot to not mess up the order of the rest of the batsmen....Shankar getting injured also didnt help. Maybe Pant as an opener should have been tried instead. Selection issues are always problematic when it comes to India...too much politics and ego. I am guessing Shastri will not be there for much longer, anyways I digress
 
Dhoni should have helped take a bit more pressure off Jadeja (something he has struggled with all tournamenet) though credit to him for staying in. Jadeja was immense.

Last word should be on how excellent the Kiwis were. Deserved winners...had a plan, stuck to it. Took advantage of moments when they came and REALLY put India to the sword in the opening 5 overs when it counted and it exposed us. The run out of dhoni and catch by neesham were great moments for them, match defining.

Back to your bubble, i'll stick to lurking. Good luck to England today 

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

No. You were correct.

[nicholasanthony]

[RainbowFlick]

As they've got the largest talent pool and the most cash they could just dominate in the near future in all formats, so every defeat is a win for everyone else in the game of cricket.

you make it sound like we're the Man City of the cricketing world 

[RainbowFlick]

Not ashamed to admit it, I hate the Indian cricket team because of the BCCI. The way they've essentially cornered the other boards into submission and stopped the game from growing stinks to high heaven. No one likes a bully, any time they lose is cause for delight.

I'm generalizing but their fans tend to be entitled, whining crybabies most of the time. The empty seats when India are losing or even the stunned silence when an opposing batsman hits a boundary is hilarious.

That is not to say that I don't have a lot of time for Virat Kohli and his talent or sheer commitment to test cricket. It's the board and their politics, and some of the supporters, that make me want to always support their opponent, unless they're playing Australia in which case it's fair game  .

I've basically not taken an interest in cricket since Tendulkar retired. What has the BCCI done!?

I think the whole fanbase culture is an Asian thing though. Very quick to turn their backs on someone for failing which is a shame. I actually think it's fairly common but as a football fanbase we (LFC) seem to generally not be that bad.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Rain forecast from 1pm onwards.

[RainbowFlick]

1. Failure to countenance cricket's inclusion in the Olympics because it would dilute power and they would have to deal with the Indian Olympic Association and share the spoils

2. Forming a cabal with the ECB and CA and then running a protection racket by going to the opposing boards one-by-one and dictating they accept the new order or else be left behind, yes I know that there was a slight improvement in the distribution of ICC funds later, but it's still skewed towards the big boys to the detriment of the boards that really need that support

3. Bullying other boards by refusing to play with them unless they agree to scheduling demands or in the case of South Africa, removing the Chief Executive because they didn't like him

4. The whole shenanigans in refusing to accept DRS a few years ago

5. Muzzling of commentators to provide objective commentary

I don't give a fuck about the capitalist argument, the administrators have failed the game and the BCCI's politics are one of the biggest reasons behind that.

Ah sorry, just seen this. A big shame some of this.

I can see why there is a dislike of the BCCI and Kohli, even our fanbase. But some of the comments I've seen in here the past few days seem to be towing the line a bit.

[Yosser0_0]

Well that was a bit of shock!

Another cracking game that, I've really enjoyed this World Cup.

[Welshred]

Rain forecast from 1pm onwards.

Met Office has a 50% chance of rain at 4 but nothing until then. It's been very changeable but there'll be rain at some point today but dont think itll be til later

["Nookie".]

Ah sorry, just seen this. A big shame some of this.

I can see why there is a dislike of the BCCI and Kohli, even our fanbase. But some of the comments I've seen in here the past few days seem to be towing the line a bit.

I love the fanbase. Just pure passion and energy. Like someone above said, same for the other countries in the region, but its probably most prominent with the Indian fans. Jadejas knock yesterday was probably one of the best of the World Cup considering the circumstances.