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« Reply #51320 on: February 23, 2021, 06:10:27 pm »
Went too far with the clippers ? At least you have owned up

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« Reply #51321 on: February 23, 2021, 06:13:51 pm »
Reminds me of the people who queue on the motorway for hours on a bank holiday monday to go shopping at an outlet village. I just don`t get the fun and pastime of it. Peace and quiet for me as well Rob.

Fingers crossed France will let me in so I can sit doing nowt not being pestered by anyone

What a lot people misunderstood at the time was the actual prevalence of the virus back then - it was estimated to be 1:1300 had it back then and prevalence was halving every 9 days. That’s a huge difference to where we are now and a million miles from Christmas when it went as low as 1:20 in places.

At a prevalence of 1:1300, we were never going to see a spike from instances like this. I think that was the misunderstanding - that an infected person could pass it on to everyone on that beach - an understandable reaction to be honest after the situation we’d just gone through. But this isn’t as infectious as measles so was impossible to happen. For sure, there were people carrying the virus on the beach, and for sure they passed it onto one or two in restrooms etc, but that’s about it. Any direct spike from that day would be weeks and months in the future and itself overtaken anyway by community prevalence increasing in September.

The opposite is also a misunderstanding though. The people that thought this happening in June would cause a spike misunderstood the situation, but also those who now are proclaiming that any meet up of that size is fine as nothing happened in June also misunderstand the situation. It’s all relative to the prevalence in the community, nothing more.

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« Reply #51322 on: February 23, 2021, 06:15:55 pm »
I am definitely back on the Pfizer vaccine train now. Astra Zeneca / Oxford vaccine has had abuse chucked at it a lot by the Europeans.

I am hoping by the the time it’s my turn the Moderna one will be delivered here, and possibly the J&J and Novavax one are approved, but the depressing thing is I have to remind myself I’m 38 and closer to 50 then I am to 18 so it won’t be that long until my age are offered the vaccine.
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« Reply #51323 on: February 23, 2021, 06:18:42 pm »
I am hoping by the the time it’s my turn the Moderna one will be delivered here, and possibly the J&J and Novavax one are approved, but the depressing thing is I have to remind myself I’m 38 and closer to 50 then I am to 18 so it won’t be that long until my age are offered the vaccine.

I am a bit annoyed me being offered it has coincided with the drop in Pfizer supply.

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« Reply #51324 on: February 23, 2021, 06:22:23 pm »
Might go to governors...  which would be highly frustrating and a total waste of time.

Half the governors had kids who I was firm tutor to, so I’m not worried ;D

I dealt with vexatious complaints through to Local Government Ombudsman. Frustrating, time consuming and stopped me doing the job I was supposed to do.

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« Reply #51325 on: February 23, 2021, 06:24:49 pm »
I honestly don't care which vaccine I get offered.
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« Reply #51326 on: February 23, 2021, 06:27:56 pm »
I honestly don't care which vaccine I get offered.

Same here
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« Reply #51327 on: February 23, 2021, 06:30:06 pm »
I honestly don't care which vaccine I get offered.

Don't get me wrong, as I said I'm not going to complain either way.

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« Reply #51328 on: February 23, 2021, 06:57:02 pm »
I've been reading a few things recently about R, schools and kids going back.

Not pretty reading.

I get that some Tories couldn't give a shit about the disabled, weak, infirm, old or vunerable, but this seems batshit crazy.

Surely the idea should be..


Trial a subset.. and carefully monitor..

then...

depending on how it went either progress the trial or revert the trial

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« Reply #51329 on: February 23, 2021, 07:10:19 pm »
To be fair I think the Brits are happy to have the German vaccine. If anything some Brits are getting put off by the Europeans slinging mud at the AZ one.

There were definitively comments of people wanting only "the English one" when invited for their vaccination. It's somewhere here in this thread.
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« Reply #51330 on: February 23, 2021, 07:10:50 pm »
I am hoping by the the time it’s my turn the Moderna one will be delivered here, and possibly the J&J and Novavax one are approved, but the depressing thing is I have to remind myself I’m 38 and closer to 50 then I am to 18 so it won’t be that long until my age are offered the vaccine.
Feel the same and I'm slightly older. Any vaccine is better than none? Why Moderna over Pfizer or others for example.

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« Reply #51331 on: February 23, 2021, 07:16:04 pm »
Feel the same and I'm slightly older. Any vaccine is better than none? Why Moderna over Pfizer or others for example.

I would prefer either the Moderna or Pfizer one as they are very similar technology and their results against the variants based on my layman’s understanding seem better then the AZ vaccine.
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« Reply #51332 on: February 23, 2021, 07:23:50 pm »
Get what you’re given!   How the hell can you choose what vaccine you get

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« Reply #51333 on: February 23, 2021, 07:29:00 pm »
Get what you’re given!   How the hell can you choose what vaccine you get

You can’t, but Treeless often likes to update us on what vaccine she wants today.
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« Reply #51334 on: February 23, 2021, 08:00:03 pm »
I would prefer either the Moderna or Pfizer one as they are very similar technology and their results against the variants based on my layman’s understanding seem better then the AZ vaccine.
Ah ok. Guess we will hopefully know soon enough.

Would you not want Moderna distributed to the public before taking it?

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« Reply #51335 on: February 23, 2021, 08:01:22 pm »
You can’t, but Treeless often likes to update us on what vaccine she wants today.
Indeed. Team Pfizer today I think.

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« Reply #51336 on: February 23, 2021, 08:01:58 pm »
You can’t, but Treeless often likes to update us on what vaccine she wants today.

This is her personal shot of Pfizer being prepared


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« Reply #51337 on: February 23, 2021, 08:06:16 pm »
Ah ok. Guess we will hopefully know soon enough.

Would you not want Moderna distributed to the public before taking it?

They have all been tested for safety across multiple countries and health authorities, the Moderna one specifically has been widely rolled out as part of the US vaccine program.
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« Reply #51339 on: February 23, 2021, 08:23:29 pm »
I’m bald I did it
I always had you down as having a full head of hair, mas how you can have misconceptions of people based on their avatar!
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« Reply #51340 on: February 23, 2021, 08:27:57 pm »
I always had you down as having a full head of hair, mas how you can have misconceptions of people based on their avatar!

You do realise that’s a picture of Blackadder and not Tepid?!?!
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« Reply #51341 on: February 23, 2021, 08:29:40 pm »
You do realise that’s a picture of Blackadder and not Tepid?!?!

Next you'll be telling me you aren't Angela Lansbury!

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« Reply #51342 on: February 23, 2021, 08:36:30 pm »
You do realise that’s a picture of Blackadder and not Tepid?!?!
really, now you have shocked me!
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« Reply #51343 on: February 23, 2021, 08:37:16 pm »
Next you'll be telling me you aren't Angela Lansbury!
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« Reply #51344 on: February 23, 2021, 08:49:18 pm »
Next you'll be telling me you aren't Angela Lansbury!

Sorry to disappoint but I must confess that I am not Angela Lansbury!

I can’t remember why I changed my picture to her, I think it was someone mentioning George Lansbury in one of the politics threads, he being her grandfather and leader of the Labour Party.
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« Reply #51345 on: February 23, 2021, 08:55:26 pm »
I must confess I’m actually a terrible putter.

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« Reply #51346 on: February 23, 2021, 08:56:17 pm »
I must confess I’m actually a terrible puttnner.

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« Reply #51347 on: February 23, 2021, 08:57:58 pm »
Sorry to disappoint but I must confess that I am not Angela Lansbury!

I can’t remember why I changed my picture to her, I think it was someone mentioning George Lansbury in one of the politics threads, he being her grandfather and leader of the Labour Party.
I’ve just read her profile on Wikipedia ...my word...

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On September 27, 1945, Lansbury married Richard Cromwell, an artist and decorator whose acting career had come to a standstill. Their marriage was troubled; Cromwell was gay, and had married Lansbury in the unsuccessful hope that it would turn him heterosexual.

No shit!!
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« Reply #51348 on: February 23, 2021, 09:12:12 pm »
They have all been tested for safety across multiple countries and health authorities, the Moderna one specifically has been widely rolled out as part of the US vaccine program.
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« Reply #51349 on: February 23, 2021, 09:17:50 pm »
Had the vaccine back in Jan. No side effects experienced except....when I wake up in the morning, the Windows 95 welcome tune now plays in my head!!
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« Reply #51350 on: February 23, 2021, 09:23:21 pm »
Had the vaccine back in Jan. No side effects experienced except....when I wake up in the morning, the Windows 95 welcome tune now plays in my head!!
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I'm keeping that one for the conspiracy nut jobs.

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« Reply #51351 on: February 23, 2021, 09:29:23 pm »
I’ve just read her profile on Wikipedia ...my word...

No shit!!

It’s not something I know a lot about or have read into, it’s just one of those random things a teacher tells you at school and just sticks in your head for forever.
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« Reply #51352 on: February 23, 2021, 09:35:05 pm »
Oh dear....

I’ve got  an anti Vaxxer on my ass.

Did an assembly about vaccines and how they worked.  Myth busted some issues about coronavirus and showed the BAME vaccine video at the end.


A very very long complaint form one parent... yikes,..!
I know how you feel, and I'm not even a teacher or have an obligation to deal with things like that. You feel like your sanity is being stretched by these people. lately I can't help but feel a lot of anger towards them. It's beyond a lack of education, and no amount of rational scientific (basic or otherwise) will convince them that they are just absolutely batshit mental and flat out wrong. I see that death toll in America and in other places all over the world, and it's a slap in the face. It's disgusting and an insult to the people that have worked throughout the entire thing, despite their fears.

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« Reply #51353 on: February 23, 2021, 09:39:59 pm »
I know how you feel, and I'm not even a teacher or have an obligation to deal with things like that. You feel like your sanity is being stretched by these people. lately I can't help but feel a lot of anger towards them. It's beyond a lack of education, and no amount of rational scientific (basic or otherwise) will convince them that they are just absolutely batshit mental and flat out wrong. I see that death toll in America and in other places all over the world, and it's a slap in the face. It's disgusting and an insult to the people that have worked throughout the entire thing, despite their fears.

Fucking madness isn’t it.

What really grinds my gears with any conspiracy theory or baseless claims (aside from the fact that they’re often dangerous) is how people just flippantly come out with narrative with absence of evidence and use the fact that it’s a conspiracy to justify why they’ve no evidence, then when the claim is eventually proven to be bullshit they just change it to something else, ad infinitum.

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« Reply #51355 on: February 23, 2021, 09:44:31 pm »
Fucking madness isn’t it.

What really grinds my gears with any conspiracy theory or baseless claims (aside from the fact that they’re often dangerous) is how people just flippantly come out with narrative with absence of evidence and use the fact that it’s a conspiracy to justify why they’ve no evidence, then when the claim is eventually proven to be bullshit they just change it to something else, ad infinitum.

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« Reply #51356 on: February 23, 2021, 09:49:04 pm »
Fucking madness isn’t it.

What really grinds my gears with any conspiracy theory or baseless claims (aside from the fact that they’re often dangerous) is how people just flippantly come out with narrative with absence of evidence and use the fact that it’s a conspiracy to justify why they’ve no evidence, then when the claim is eventually proven to be bullshit they just change it to something else, ad infinitum.
Absolutely bang on the money. They're right. You're wrong. The end. There isn't a single bone of humility in these people because at heart, they're a bunch of selfish c*nts with the IQ of an amoeba. Whenever you present statistics and evidence of millions of people getting vaccinated, and vaccines shown to be working, the response then switches to "Well, they're obviously being injected with a placebo, and it's not the real vaccine" because to their disappointment - and this is the thing that blows my mind to shreds - they are not seeing serious adverse side effects that they'd hoped, and no one is dropping dead so that they can gleefully gloat "I told you so".

I am not exaggerating when I say this: anyone peddling this bollocks should be permanently remembered for it. They should not be forgiven for it, unless they are will to admit they were badly wrong. The stigma should stick with them like a bad smell for the rest of their lives. It should affect their careers and prospects like a criminal record should. There is no excuses for the damage these people are causing.

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« Reply #51357 on: February 23, 2021, 09:51:59 pm »
OK.  Any chance?  Last page has been full of talk of holidays etc. Cut that out and have some sympathy for us in the EU, more specifically expats sitting in Berlin. Vaccine program here is a bit of a dogs dinner.  Add to that all the negative publicity around Oxford/AZ and I am pissed to read today that almost no-one is turning up for those AZ vaccines at Tegel - I find this really annoying as looks like I will be months away and will gladly take the AZ shot. 
To be honest - I'm just jealous of you guys living in UK with such an amazing covid plan::)   
Nah - I really am pleased for you all.  It's great, positive for once and long may this vaccines pace and energy roll on. 
It's all coming together - Get your tickets booked for CL final - it's on.
As usual it might be various approaches and organisation due to Germany being federal. Most in our family are in Hesse and my mum phoned me today and said that they will begin vaccinating those in the second group of the priority list, i.e. anyone aged 70 and up, starting March 5 and people can apply for appointments from today via online or phone. Since the start they have been doing 80 plus (and various risk groups). I never thought my parents (mum is mid, dad is end 70) would be able to apply for their jabs before mid/end of March. Very happy about that. Last weekend we were talking about vaccines and I was thinking I might have to convince them to take whatever was available at a given time, but my parents were cool with it and like, give me AZ any day, it's absolutely fine. Unfortunately the bad press had its effect on some people though, on top of the anti vaxxers. Really not what we all need.

Would it make any sense to check if Tegel is giving jabs to whoever comes by (outside of priority groups) before they let supplies rot?

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Some experts don't appear to think that much of the article.

https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1364294846853308432
That’s positive... good to hear
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