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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14440 on: October 10, 2019, 08:57:08 pm »
yep it is pointless looking into the ins and outs of it. The way some go on you would think we were sponsored by ISIS

think people want to be offended at times.

Gambling is an utterly horrible past time which has severe consequences on the families of addicts.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14441 on: October 11, 2019, 05:56:58 am »
Gambling is an utterly horrible past time which has severe consequences on the families of addicts.


You're right. Problem is though, if we go down that route, it'll be very difficult finding a company that'll pay big money to sponsor us that isn't linked with or promoting things that are objectionable.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14442 on: October 11, 2019, 09:18:28 am »
Gambling is an utterly horrible past time which has severe consequences on the families of addicts.

so is alcohol
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14443 on: October 11, 2019, 09:24:17 am »
Nothing new, Candy are well known in the laundry business.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14444 on: October 11, 2019, 09:25:52 am »
so is alcohol

I've always loved the fact that we had Carlsberg front and centre for years and years and no one said a thing. We get Bet Victor on our training gear and all of a sudden it's an outrage because we're promoting gambling as if alcohol hasn't caused more issues  :butt

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14445 on: October 11, 2019, 10:49:44 am »
Gambling is an utterly horrible past time which has severe consequences on the families of addicts.


Yeah, but the majority can gamble responsibly. It does get far too much advertisement airtime though.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14446 on: October 11, 2019, 10:55:46 am »
I've always loved the fact that we had Carlsberg front and centre for years and years and no one said a thing. We get Bet Victor on our training gear and all of a sudden it's an outrage because we're promoting gambling as if alcohol hasn't caused more issues  :butt
yep

sure if we brought back crown paints someone would say its offensive because their husband fell off a ladder painting the ceiling

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14447 on: October 11, 2019, 11:03:15 am »
yep

sure if we brought back crown paints someone would say its offensive because their husband fell off a ladder painting the ceiling



Or lead based paints
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14448 on: October 11, 2019, 11:06:22 am »
Or lead based paints
bring back hitachi

actually no dont, global warming and all that

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14449 on: October 11, 2019, 11:54:41 am »
Gambling and alcohol promotion isn't a problem because some pc people decide to complain about it.

It's a problem because 300,000 people in the uk have gambling disorder symptoms, and over half a million are dependent drinkers.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14450 on: October 11, 2019, 12:23:30 pm »
so what company should we be sponsored by

ok some are worse than others but do we rule out potential sponsors because a few get offended by advertising alcohol, betting or because nike have a sweatshop

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14451 on: October 11, 2019, 12:32:25 pm »
so what company should we be sponsored by

ok some are worse than others but do we rule out potential sponsors because a few get offended by advertising alcohol, betting or because nike have a sweatshop



That's the point, isn't it? Some are worse than others.

And sure, the club is a business and it has to maximize revenue, but really, I was just responding to the false equivalence between promoting alcohol and gambling versus crown paints. The former is a genuine problem in society, and the latter is just a way to score cheap points by laughing at pc people.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14452 on: October 11, 2019, 12:34:39 pm »
well i think pc people deserve to be laughed at considering some take offence to everything

as was mentioned why was no one offended for the 18 years carlsberg sponsored us
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14453 on: October 11, 2019, 12:42:56 pm »
Suppose the only way to placate the PC crowd is to be sponsored by Windows.








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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14454 on: October 11, 2019, 12:46:25 pm »
well i think pc people deserve to be laughed at considering some take offence to everything

as was mentioned why was no one offended for the 18 years carlsberg sponsored us

I don't understand your line of reasoning here. On the one hand you want to laugh at people complaining. On the other hand, you seem to think there is no problem unless somebody complains?
I just showed you stats about how serious a problem alcohol dependence is in the UK, who cares if anybody complained or not??
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14455 on: October 11, 2019, 12:57:22 pm »
judging by other posts which implied people were unhappy with being sponsored by a betting company was poor form, why then was no issue when we were sponsored by an alcohol brand (and still are too i believe as i think they are still a commercial partner)

i know how serious alcohol dependence can be, i did after all refer to that when i replied to a poster earlier saying betting can ruin people and i said alcohol can too

as for laughing at people i do that when i feel people get on their high horse about particular brands as you wonder who then could we be sponsored by thats not so offensive

among our club partners we have a bank fined for money laundering, two alcoholic companies, we've had deals with many betting companies down the years too

so why does it become a problem all of a sudden for some is my point

people get the wrong idea when we are sponsored by some companies, its not like we promote issues like alcohol and gambling.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14456 on: October 11, 2019, 01:32:01 pm »
We should be sponsored by Qatar. Such an upstanding government dictatorship.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14457 on: October 11, 2019, 01:57:55 pm »
judging by other posts which implied people were unhappy with being sponsored by a betting company was poor form, why then was no issue when we were sponsored by an alcohol brand (and still are too i believe as i think they are still a commercial partner)

i know how serious alcohol dependence can be, i did after all refer to that when i replied to a poster earlier saying betting can ruin people and i said alcohol can too

as for laughing at people i do that when i feel people get on their high horse about particular brands as you wonder who then could we be sponsored by thats not so offensive

among our club partners we have a bank fined for money laundering, two alcoholic companies, we've had deals with many betting companies down the years too

so why does it become a problem all of a sudden for some is my point

people get the wrong idea when we are sponsored by some companies, its not like we promote issues like alcohol and gambling.

It looks like we agree on a lot here. I think it's fair enough to say that this is the business, if you want to compete then you have to take sponsorship money from wherever.

But all I'm trying to say is, not all sponsorship is equal. As a prominent institution in the country, the club should show moral leadership, if it decides not to, then it behooves us to admit that its deciding not to. What we shouldn't do is make excuses for the club like 'well people would have complained even if we were sponsored by a paint company'. I doubt it first of all, and even if people did complain, that is not what is important. What is important is that alcohol and gambling are genuine problems and paint is not. Making it out like all sponsorship is the same because, no matter what  somebody will complain is a cheap excuse. We should be above that.

After all, if all sponsorship really is the same then everyone getting upset at City being sponsored by a slaveholder tyrant is a hypocrite.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14458 on: October 11, 2019, 02:11:52 pm »
yeah i dont think its equal either and i dont think all sponsorship is same

might as well leave it there
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14459 on: October 11, 2019, 03:39:04 pm »
so what company should we be sponsored by

ok some are worse than others but do we rule out potential sponsors because a few get offended by advertising alcohol, betting or because nike have a sweatshop



Tena. That should suit the bed wetters on here.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14460 on: October 11, 2019, 04:08:47 pm »
Tena. That should suit the bed wetters on here.
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Re: New Kit thread
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14463 on: October 11, 2019, 04:52:03 pm »
Any caveats?

The ECHO understands the trial will begin on Friday October 18 and will last for three days, finishing on Tuesday October 22.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14464 on: October 11, 2019, 06:09:45 pm »
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-court-new-balance-nike-17066782

Court date set for next Friday.

Imagine if they win, that's going to be an awkward relationship to manage...
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14465 on: October 11, 2019, 07:38:56 pm »
Imagine if they win, that's going to be an awkward relationship to manage...

I dont think so, it has been a good relationship so far.  If ruled that NB are right then we may appeal or get omn with it.  It is too important for both parties not to make it as successful as possible.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14466 on: October 11, 2019, 08:02:34 pm »
I would imagine/hope if NB win we’d do a different deal. 20% of their sales isn’t going to come close to what Nike would offer.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14467 on: October 11, 2019, 08:44:13 pm »
I would imagine/hope if NB win we’d do a different deal. 20% of their sales isn’t going to come close to what Nike would offer.

The judges at the High Court will no doubt be looking into that.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14468 on: October 14, 2019, 05:25:52 am »
Do we have the same lawyers who represented us against H&G?
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14469 on: October 15, 2019, 07:55:40 pm »
Are we already Champions of the world?  ::)

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Only 16 made & apparently only available for RRP £1000 in NB Mongolian store."

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14470 on: October 15, 2019, 08:03:49 pm »
Clearly a fake, and a copy of what Nike did for PSG in 2006/2007.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14471 on: October 15, 2019, 08:05:15 pm »
If I was selling a shirt for £1,000, I'd definitely put it in a what looks like one of those cheap clothes shops where everything else is a fiver, like the ones my parents used to take me to when I was a kid.
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14472 on: October 15, 2019, 08:06:05 pm »
There is ZERO chance that kit is made by NB. The liverbird alone should give it away

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Re: New Kit thread
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14474 on: October 15, 2019, 09:30:38 pm »
Who the fuck looks at that and even thinks it’s real for more than a millisecond?  ;D

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14475 on: October 15, 2019, 09:43:42 pm »
Who the fuck looks at that and even thinks it’s real for more than a millisecond?  ;D

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14476 on: October 15, 2019, 09:44:11 pm »
Who the fuck looks at that and even thinks it’s real for more than a millisecond?  ;D

A daft meff?
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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14478 on: October 16, 2019, 02:34:09 am »
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-court-new-balance-nike-17066782

Court date set for next Friday.

To be honest, I think the question here is if we are in breach with the contract we have with NB or not. And if yes, how much they are entitled to be compensated for us breaching the agreement. The chance of this actually ending up with us continuing with NB as the kit manufacturer after this season I reckon is slim to none.

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Re: New Kit thread
« Reply #14479 on: October 16, 2019, 02:25:48 pm »
so what company should we be sponsored by

Football shirts should be sponsored only by alcoholic beverages companies.