Author Topic: Results Comparison Thread 2010-11 (Read 48498 times)

Jack Slater · « **Reply #400 on:** May 15, 2011, 08:31:16 am »

Hodgson's 10/11 season

With LFC

Played 20, Points 25, 1.25 PPG. (7W, 4D, 9L). GD -3.

Over the whole season to date, that PPG is better than 11 teams, and is level with Fulham's. (Fulham have a GD of +4).

So LFC would currently be approximately 9th in the table if our form in Games 21 to 36 had matched that of the first 20 games.

With WBA

Played 12, Points 20, 1.67 PPG. (5W, 5D, 2L). GD +2.

Over the whole season to date, only 4 teams (MU, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man C) have a PPG better than 1.67. Apart from LFC, the next best is Spurs with 1.56.

Overall

Played 32, Points 45, 1.41 PPG. (12W, 9D, 11L). GD -1.

Over the whole season to date, that PPG is better than 14 teams. ie, not counting LFC, only 5 teams have a better PPG.

So Hodgson's combined PPG works out at approx 53 or 54 points over 38 games. Last season that was better than 12 teams. The season before it was better than 13 or 14 teams.

Obviously Hodgson's combined PPG is not as good as LFC's combined PPG (that of Hodgson plus Kenny), which is 1.61. So Kenny has done much better at LFC than Roy has done at WBA.

So if Hodgson had stayed with LFC,

steveeastend · « **Reply #401 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:13:30 am »

Quote from: Jack Slater on May 15, 2011, 08:31:16 am

So if Hodgson had stayed with LFC,

Don´t you....

Jack Slater · « **Reply #402 on:** May 15, 2011, 11:11:36 pm »

Burnley Last = Newcastle This
Hull Last = West Brom This
Portsmouth Last = Blackpool This

DATE	OPPONENT	H/A	LAST SEASON	THIS SEASON	DIFF (PTS, GS, GA, GD)
--------------	------------	-----------	-------------------	----------------------	------------------------------
15.08.2010	Arsenal	home	L1-2	D1-1	(1, 0, 1, 1)
23.08.2010	Manchester City	away	D0-0	L0-3	(-1, 0, -3, -3)
29.08.2010	West Bromwich Albion	home	W6-1	W1-0	(0, -5, 1, -4)
12.09.2010	Birmingham City	away	D1-1	D0-0	(0, -1, 1, 0)
19.09.2010	Manchester United	away	L1-2	L2-3	(0, 1, -1, 0)
25.09.2010	Sunderland	home	W3-0	D2-2	(-2, -, -2, -3)
02.10.2010	Blackpool	home	W4-1	L1-2	(-3, -3, -1, -4)
17.10.2010	Everton	away	W2-0	L0-2	(-3, -2, -2, -4)
23.10.2010	Blackburn Rovers	home	W2-1	W2-1	(0, 0, 0, 0)
31.10.2010	Bolton Wanderers	away	W3-2	W1-0	(0, -2, +2, 0)
07.11.2010	Chelsea	home	L0-2	W2-0	(+3, +2, +2, +4)
10.11.2010	Wigan Athletic	away	L0-1	D1-1	(1, 1, 0, 1)
13.11.2010	Stoke City	away	D1-1	L0-2	(-1, -1, -1, -2)
20.11.2010	West Ham United	home	W3-0	W3-0	(0, 0, 0, 0)
28.11.2010	Tottenham Hotspur	away	L1-2	L1-2	(0, 0, 0, 0)
04.12.2010	Aston Villa	home	L1-3	W3-0	(+3, +2, +3, +5)
11.12.2010	Newcastle United	away	W4-0	L1-3	(-3, -3, -3, -6)
28.12.2010	Wolverhampton Wndrs	home	W2-0	L0-1	(-3, -2, -1, -3)
01.01.2011	Bolton Wanderers	home	W2-0	W2-1	(0, 0, -1, -1)
05.01.2011	Blackburn Rovers	away	D0-0	L1-3	(-1, 1, -3, -2)
12.01.2011	Blackpool	away	L0-2	L1-2	(0, 1, 0, 1)
15.01.2011	Everton	home	W1-0	D2-2	(-2, 1, -2, -1)
22.01.2011	Wolverhampton Wndrs	away	D0-0	W3-0	(+2, +3, 0, +3)
26.01.2011	Fulham	home	D0-0	W1-0	(+2, +1, 0, +1)
02.02.2011	Stoke City	home	W4-0	W2-0	(0, -2, 0, -2)
05.02.2011	Chelsea	away	L0-2	W1-0	(+3, +1, -2, +3)
12.02.2011	Wigan Athletic	home	W2-1	D1-1	(-2, -1, 0, -1)
26.02.2011	West Ham United	away	W3-2	L1-3	(-3, -2, -1, -3)
05.03.2011	Manchester United	home	W2-0	W3-1	(0, +1, -1, 0)
19.03.2011	Sunderland	away	L0-1	W2-0	(+3, +2, +1, +3)
02.04.2011	West Bromwich Albion	away	D0-0	L1-2	(-1, 1, -2, -1)
10.04.2011	Manchester City	home	D2-2	W3-0	(+2, +1, -2, +3)
16.04.2011	Arsenal	away	L0-1	D1-1	(+1, +1, 0, +1)
23.04.2011	Birmingham City	home	D2-2	W5-0	(+2, +3, +2, +5)
30.04.2011	Newcastle United	home	W4-0	W3-0	(0, -1, 0, -1)
07.05.2011	Fulham	away	L1-3	W5-2	(+3, +4, -1, +5)
15.05.2011	Tottenham Hotspur	home	W2-0	L0-2	(-3, -2, -2, -4)
22.05.2011	Aston Villa	away	W1-0	TBA	(X, X, X, X)

Dropped Points Last Season

6 - 2 teams (Chelsea, Arsenal) [Points Played For So far: 12. Taken = 8. Dropped = 4]
5 - 1 team (Fulham) [Points Played For So far: 6. Taken = 6. Dropped = 0]
4 - 2 teams (Man C, Birmingham) [Points Played For So far: 12. Taken = 7. Dropped = 5]
3 - 6 teams (Spurs, Villa, Sunderland, Blackpool, Wigan, Man Utd) [Points Played For So far: 33. Taken = 12. Dropped = 21]
2 - 4 teams (Blackburn, Stoke, Wolves, West Brom) [Points Played For So far: 24. Taken = 12. Dropped = 12]
0 - 4 teams (Bolton, Newcastle, West Ham, Everton) [Points Played For So far: 24. Taken = 13. Dropped = 11]

Net Difference So Far Compared to Corresponding Fixtures Last Season

Points = -2

Wins = 0
Draws = -2
Losses = 0

Goals For = minus 1
Goals Against = minus 8 ('minus' means 'worse' ie more conceded)
Goal Difference = minus 9

So, at best, we can be 2 points worse than last season.

58 is our lowest total of recent years, in 04/05. We might fail to beat that. Although unless we lose by 5 next weekend, our GD will still be better than 04/05

Jack Slater · « **Reply #403 on:** May 15, 2011, 11:18:50 pm »

Kenny's Games Only

Played: 17
W: 10
D: 3
L: 4
Points: 33
GS: 35 ( 1x0; 7x1; 3x2; 4x3; 0x4; 2x5 )
GA: 16 ( 8x0; 3x1; 5x2; 1x3 )
GD: +19

Points per Game: 1.94 (73 or 74 points per 38 games)
Goals per Game: 2.06 (78 goals per 38 games)

LFC's run of scoring in 18 league games in a row is now at an end. It was the longest run anyone had all season. Next best is WBA's run of 12, which is still ongoing.

Compared to Last Season's corresponding fixture

Wins to Losses: 2 (West Ham, Spurs)
Wins to Draws: 2 (Everton, Wigan)
Also Win: 3 (Stoke, MU, Newcastle)

Draws to Wins: 4 (Wolves, Fulham, ManC, Birmingham)
Draws to Losses: 1 (WBA)
Also Draw: -

Losses to Draws: 1 (Arsenal)
Losses to Wins: 3 (Chelsea, Sunderland, Fulham)
Also Loss: 1 (Blackpool)

Net:

Wins: +3
Draws: -2
Losses: -1

Points: +7
GS: +12
GA: -2 (minus = "worse"; ie more conceded)
GD: +10

JP-65 · « **Reply #404 on:** May 22, 2011, 05:59:01 pm »

Wow, 2nd place with 71 points, champions with 80......absolutely stunning!

Abrak · « **Reply #405 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:21:50 pm »

Love to see the end of season data when you have it guys...

samlfc · « **Reply #406 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:33:19 pm »

So if Hodgson had stayed with LFC,
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I'd have stuck forks in my eyes and went to work on my beautiful face with a potato peeler!

JP-65 · « **Reply #407 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:31:55 pm »

80 pts for 1st lowest since 2001, 71 points for 2nd lowest since 1997. In 2008, 76 points was only good enough for 4th

BazC · « **Reply #408 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:37:37 pm »

Quote from: JP-65 on May 22, 2011, 08:31:55 pm

80 pts for 1st lowest since 2001, 71 points for 2nd lowest since 1997. In 2008, 76 points was only good enough for 4th

The league has gotten more 'equal' pretty obviously over the last couple of years. It makes it even more gutting that we couldn't push on from the 2nd place finish a couple of seasons back. If only Alonso had been forced to stay that extra season, we'd have won it all. Even with the gigantic mess with the owners.

Although you could argue, had that happened, we'd still have those 2 in charge, so probably no use thinking about it.

Next season, I'd expect some big improvements from at least Chelsea and Man City. I have a funny feeling Arsenal will be spending for once and the Mancs will always be up there.

We need to really have a good summer (something we haven't had since Torres came in all those years ago) and push for the Top 4. Title challenge for next season is a bit of a dream (especially when we don't know who'll be coming in etc) but at least we're even thinking about it now.

For this thread next season, you'd expect it to be full of positive 'scores' when compared to the season before (ie, results this season)... let's hope that they stack up to the comparison scores from that season we finished 2nd.

El Rey, por favor · « **Reply #409 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:40:16 pm »

Let's end this bastard! WOOOHOOO! Can't wait for 2011/12 I reckon this thread will be great reading

shelovesyou · « **Reply #410 on:** May 23, 2011, 02:55:00 am »

When we finished 5th in 2005 we were 37 pts behind winners , this season Blackpool were 41 points behind the winners.

Thanks to all those who contributed to this thread by the way. Always interesting to see the stats.
Look forward to next seasons.

drpepe · « **Reply #411 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:25:06 am »

Quote from: BazC on May 22, 2011, 08:37:37 pm

The league has gotten more 'equal' pretty obviously over the last couple of years. It makes it even more gutting that we couldn't push on from the 2nd place finish a couple of seasons back. If only Alonso had been forced to stay that extra season, we'd have won it all. Even with the gigantic mess with the owners.

Although you could argue, had that happened, we'd still have those 2 in charge, so probably no use thinking about it.

Next season, I'd expect some big improvements from at least Chelsea and Man City. I have a funny feeling Arsenal will be spending for once and the Mancs will always be up there.

We need to really have a good summer (something we haven't had since Torres came in all those years ago) and push for the Top 4. Title challenge for next season is a bit of a dream (especially when we don't know who'll be coming in etc) but at least we're even thinking about it now.

For this thread next season, you'd expect it to be full of positive 'scores' when compared to the season before (ie, results this season)... let's hope that they stack up to the comparison scores from that season we finished 2nd.

Wow, that is a big statement.

*if* alonso had stayed, is likely the squad would have been degraded in some other way. We havent gone crap cos of a few crappy signings from benitez or hodge: We were simply never setup the right way to progress and win titles under the crappy business model of h and g.

mattsant · « **Reply #412 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:27:10 am »

Quote from: shelovesyou on May 23, 2011, 02:55:00 am

Thanks to all those who contributed to this thread by the way. Always interesting to see the stats.
Look forward to next seasons.

Vinay · « **Reply #413 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:30:23 am »

This was a terrible season cheered up by a dozen of exciting football brought by Dalglish. The last two games were poor and left us crestfallen.

I feel very optimistic going into the 2011-12 season,but I will not be getting my hopes high as unfortunately, the squad is quite poor and we have a lot of catching up to do. Sadly, this task will take more than one summer.

JP-65 · « **Reply #414 on:** May 23, 2011, 12:31:31 pm »

Some good stats posted by Dan Kennett on twitter (TTT member)

6/6 Big question: Is this start of a trend of a levelling off in terms of competitive balance? Or just a one off? Time will tell.

5/6 Big underperformance by top/bottom 3 teams meant 'only' 47 points between 1st & 20th (11 points below average & lowest since 97/98)

4/6 Cumulative points total of bottom 3 was 111 (highest since 96/97). Relegation zone entry of 39 was highest since 02/03

3/6 Top 4 points share peaked in 07/08 and 08/09 at 331 (10 more per team). Been 304+ for every previous year of 'Abramovich Era'

2/6 Cumulative points total of top 4 was 290 (Lowest since 00/01) but entry into the CL spots was fairly typical at 68 points

1/6 Initial observations on the PL season based on final table compared to rest of 20 team PL era. Very much a return to a '90s table'

JP-65 · « **Reply #415 on:** May 23, 2011, 01:40:43 pm »

The 7 season comp:

JP-65 · « **Reply #416 on:** May 23, 2011, 01:51:09 pm »

Final table, some of the positions are a little out as I don't sort by goal difference so the ties aren't quite accurate, but the relative change this season vs last is.

bleedsred1978 · « **Reply #417 on:** May 23, 2011, 02:34:14 pm »

Just like to say thanks as others have for all the work that goes into keeping this thread updated. Never posted in here but regular browser.

Looking at above comps for the last few years final points totals it does jump out that Rafa never had such a low points total in all the time he was here (save for the first year when he won the European cup and rested players towards the end of the season) and even had a few more points when he got the sack last year.

Couple that with the fact that he had latter stages of Europe to cope with most years.

Not Kenny's fault by any means but a sobering thought all the same for those who see this year as some sort of precursor to a title challenge next time around.

JP-65 · « **Reply #418 on:** May 23, 2011, 03:57:22 pm »

Here's the season broken down between RH & KD, and further broken down into (a) the teams that finished above us (b) the 6 teams in the fight to avoid relegation (c) the remaining, middle 6 teams.

Observations I'd make: (a) results under Kenny, home & away, and in the splits above, are fairly consistent. The only blemish is the away performance against relegation teams where we lost at West Ham & Blackpool.
(b) Roy's blemishes were home to the relegation teams, Blackpool & Wolves, and all away results. When you see we took 0 points against the top5, 0.75 ppg against the middle & 0.67 ppg against the relegation candidates, you can really see where we messed up under him.

the 92A · « **Reply #419 on:** May 23, 2011, 04:16:29 pm »

Echo the thanks to Jack, JP et al for keeping this thread interesting, thanks fellas.

Abrak · « **Reply #420 on:** May 23, 2011, 05:23:38 pm »

Quote from: Vinay on May 23, 2011, 09:30:23 am

This was a terrible season cheered up by a dozen of exciting football brought by Dalglish. The last two games were poor and left us crestfallen.

I feel very optimistic going into the 2011-12 season,but I will not be getting my hopes high as unfortunately, the squad is quite poor and we have a lot of catching up to do. Sadly, this task will take more than one summer.

True.... one more rather sobering statistic I am afraid. When Kenny took over on the 8th of Jan we were 12th and 11 points behind 4th with a game in hand. Despite a remarkable run and climbing to 6th we still ended the season 10 points behind coming 4th. There is still a lot to do.

JP-65 · « **Reply #421 on:** May 23, 2011, 05:26:18 pm »

Quote from: Abrak on May 23, 2011, 05:23:38 pm

True.... one more rather sobering statistic I am afraid. When Kenny took over on the 8th of Jan we were 12th and 11 points behind 4th with a game in hand. Despite a remarkable run and climbing to 6th we still ended the season 10 points behind coming 4th. There is still a lot to do.

In the scheme of things, it wasn't a remarkable run, it was what you have to do to be in a CL position, but do it for the whole season.

We were never going to "catch up" at this ppg rate.

JP-65 · « **Reply #422 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:24:33 pm »

Following is the above analysis compared to Man Utd's performance.

The 18 matches under Kenny fell short of Man Utd's season performance, the areas of shortfall being (a) our home results, Man Utd were extraordinary at home this season (b) results against relegation candidates.

Again, under KD, we compare quite nicely in all other comparisons, and our goals for & against stack up quite well as well.

JP-65 · « **Reply #423 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:31:51 pm »

Following is the above analysis versus Chelsea.

Under KD, our data is remarkably similar in all aspects to Chelsea's, we shade them a bit, but give the little advantages we have gained when we're up against the relegation candidates.

JP-65 · « **Reply #424 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:48:31 pm »

Following is the above analysis versus Man City.

Under KD, our data is again, remarkably similar in all aspects to Man City's, better performance against the best teams is offset by substantially worse performance against the relegation candidates.

JP-65 · « **Reply #425 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:06:01 pm »

Following is the above analysis versus Arsenal.

Under KD, our performance against the top & mid tier teams is quite superior, but mostly offset by Arsenal being "flat track" bullies against the relegation candidates.

JP-65 · « **Reply #426 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:19:47 pm »

The last one, Spurs, and finally someone who was as bad as us against the relegation candidates!

Under KD, we outperformed Spurs, and the difference was against the top teams. We also scored at a better rate, and prevented goals at a better rate.

When you consider we lost at home to Spurs, makes the top team performance differential even more pronounced.

DoogyRev · « **Reply #427 on:** May 23, 2011, 11:56:37 pm »

Thanks jp65 and jack slater for your stats and diligence this season. Hope you continue it next season.

Jack Slater · « **Reply #428 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:52:16 pm »

Burnley Last = Newcastle This
Hull Last = West Brom This
Portsmouth Last = Blackpool This

DATE	OPPONENT	H/A	LAST SEASON	THIS SEASON	DIFF (PTS, GS, GA, GD)
--------------	------------	-----------	-------------------	----------------------	------------------------------
15.08.2010	Arsenal	home	L1-2	D1-1	(1, 0, 1, 1)
23.08.2010	Manchester City	away	D0-0	L0-3	(-1, 0, -3, -3)
29.08.2010	West Bromwich Albion	home	W6-1	W1-0	(0, -5, 1, -4)
12.09.2010	Birmingham City	away	D1-1	D0-0	(0, -1, 1, 0)
19.09.2010	Manchester United	away	L1-2	L2-3	(0, 1, -1, 0)
25.09.2010	Sunderland	home	W3-0	D2-2	(-2, -, -2, -3)
02.10.2010	Blackpool	home	W4-1	L1-2	(-3, -3, -1, -4)
17.10.2010	Everton	away	W2-0	L0-2	(-3, -2, -2, -4)
23.10.2010	Blackburn Rovers	home	W2-1	W2-1	(0, 0, 0, 0)
31.10.2010	Bolton Wanderers	away	W3-2	W1-0	(0, -2, +2, 0)
07.11.2010	Chelsea	home	L0-2	W2-0	(+3, +2, +2, +4)
10.11.2010	Wigan Athletic	away	L0-1	D1-1	(1, 1, 0, 1)
13.11.2010	Stoke City	away	D1-1	L0-2	(-1, -1, -1, -2)
20.11.2010	West Ham United	home	W3-0	W3-0	(0, 0, 0, 0)
28.11.2010	Tottenham Hotspur	away	L1-2	L1-2	(0, 0, 0, 0)
04.12.2010	Aston Villa	home	L1-3	W3-0	(+3, +2, +3, +5)
11.12.2010	Newcastle United	away	W4-0	L1-3	(-3, -3, -3, -6)
28.12.2010	Wolverhampton Wndrs	home	W2-0	L0-1	(-3, -2, -1, -3)
01.01.2011	Bolton Wanderers	home	W2-0	W2-1	(0, 0, -1, -1)
05.01.2011	Blackburn Rovers	away	D0-0	L1-3	(-1, 1, -3, -2)
12.01.2011	Blackpool	away	L0-2	L1-2	(0, 1, 0, 1)
15.01.2011	Everton	home	W1-0	D2-2	(-2, 1, -2, -1)
22.01.2011	Wolverhampton Wndrs	away	D0-0	W3-0	(+2, +3, 0, +3)
26.01.2011	Fulham	home	D0-0	W1-0	(+2, +1, 0, +1)
02.02.2011	Stoke City	home	W4-0	W2-0	(0, -2, 0, -2)
05.02.2011	Chelsea	away	L0-2	W1-0	(+3, +1, -2, +3)
12.02.2011	Wigan Athletic	home	W2-1	D1-1	(-2, -1, 0, -1)
26.02.2011	West Ham United	away	W3-2	L1-3	(-3, -2, -1, -3)
05.03.2011	Manchester United	home	W2-0	W3-1	(0, +1, -1, 0)
19.03.2011	Sunderland	away	L0-1	W2-0	(+3, +2, +1, +3)
02.04.2011	West Bromwich Albion	away	D0-0	L1-2	(-1, 1, -2, -1)
10.04.2011	Manchester City	home	D2-2	W3-0	(+2, +1, -2, +3)
16.04.2011	Arsenal	away	L0-1	D1-1	(+1, +1, 0, +1)
23.04.2011	Birmingham City	home	D2-2	W5-0	(+2, +3, +2, +5)
30.04.2011	Newcastle United	home	W4-0	W3-0	(0, -1, 0, -1)
07.05.2011	Fulham	away	L1-3	W5-2	(+3, +4, -1, +5)
15.05.2011	Tottenham Hotspur	home	W2-0	L0-2	(-3, -2, -2, -4)
22.05.2011	Aston Villa	away	W1-0	L0-1	(-3, -1, -1, -2)

Dropped Points Last Season

6 - 2 teams (Chelsea, Arsenal) [Points Played For So far: 12. Taken = 8. Dropped = 4]
5 - 1 team (Fulham) [Points Played For So far: 6. Taken = 6. Dropped = 0]
4 - 2 teams (Man C, Birmingham) [Points Played For So far: 12. Taken = 7. Dropped = 5]
3 - 6 teams (Spurs, Villa, Sunderland, Blackpool, Wigan, Man Utd) [Points Played For So far: 36. Taken = 12. Dropped = 24]
2 - 4 teams (Blackburn, Stoke, Wolves, West Brom) [Points Played For So far: 24. Taken = 12. Dropped = 12]
0 - 4 teams (Bolton, Newcastle, West Ham, Everton) [Points Played For So far: 24. Taken = 13. Dropped = 11]

Net Difference Compared to Corresponding Fixtures Last Season

Points = -5

Wins = -1
Draws = -2
Losses = +1

Goals For = minus 2
Goals Against = minus 9 ('minus' means 'worse' ie more conceded)
Goal Difference = minus 11

58 is our lowest total of recent years since in 04/05 when we were 5th.

We have 5 points less than last season, but are one place higher.

Jack Slater · « **Reply #429 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:57:51 pm »

Kenny's Games Only

Played: 18
W: 10
D: 3
L: 5
Points: 33
GS: 35 ( 2x0; 7x1; 3x2; 4x3; 0x4; 2x5 )
GA: 17 ( 8x0; 4x1; 5x2; 1x3 )
GD: +18

Points per Game: 1.83 (70 points per 38 games)
Goals per Game: 1.94 (74 goals per 38 games)

LFC's run of scoring in 18 league games in a row was the best of anybody all season. We then wrapped up with 2 consecutive goal-less games.

Compared to Last Season's corresponding fixture

Wins to Losses: 3 (West Ham, Spurs, Villa)
Wins to Draws: 2 (Everton, Wigan)
Also Win: 3 (Stoke, MU, Newcastle)

Draws to Wins: 4 (Wolves, Fulham, ManC, Birmingham)
Draws to Losses: 1 (WBA)
Also Draw: -

Losses to Draws: 1 (Arsenal)
Losses to Wins: 3 (Chelsea, Sunderland, Fulham)
Also Loss: 1 (Blackpool)

Net:

Wins: +2
Draws: -2
Losses: 0

Points: +4
GS: +12
GA: -3 (minus = "worse"; ie more conceded)
GD: +9

Jack Slater · « **Reply #430 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:04:07 pm »

Quote from: JP-65 on May 22, 2011, 08:31:55 pm

80 pts for 1st lowest since 2001, 71 points for 2nd lowest since 1997. In 2008, 76 points was only good enough for 4th

Strange old season in many ways. Chelsea's weird mid-season slump for one. The likes of Sunderland and Bolton plummetting down the table after January. Birmingham and Blackpool making late bids to go down. Wigan and Wolves leaving it late to grab a lifeline.

It seems a lifetime ago that we were starting the season with G&H, Hodgson, Torres, Mascherano.

To better times next year, eh.

And here's hoping 82 points will be enough next year. Kenny might just have that in him somewhere.

Jack Slater · « **Reply #431 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:14:27 pm »

Quote from: JP-65 on May 23, 2011, 03:57:22 pm

Here's the season broken down between RH & KD, and further broken down into (a) the teams that finished above us (b) the 6 teams in the fight to avoid relegation (c) the remaining, middle 6 teams.

Observations I'd make: (a) results under Kenny, home & away, and in the splits above, are fairly consistent. The only blemish is the away performance against relegation teams where we lost at West Ham & Blackpool.
(b) Roy's blemishes were home to the relegation teams, Blackpool & Wolves, and all away results. When you see we took 0 points against the top5, 0.75 ppg against the middle & 0.67 ppg against the relegation candidates, you can really see where we messed up under him.

Thanks for that breakdown.

Still startling to season RH's away stats. If they werent written down, I'd think I dreamt them.

gray19lfc · « **Reply #432 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:08:18 pm »

Anyone doing this this year?

JP-65 · « **Reply #433 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:03:59 pm »

Quote from: gray19lfc on August 13, 2011, 05:08:18 pm

Anyone doing this this year?

Up in Liverpool for the weekend, but will start up a new one when I get back.

Same as last season on both comps though.