Topic: Brendan Rodgers

[Stan.]

They admittedly didn't spend much last summer, but the owners businesses (travel retail) were massively impacted by lockdowns and they've upgraded their training ground. Leicester also made a club record loss for 21/22. But he was given plenty to spend. Their wage bill has ballooned in recent years. As usual with Rodgers, his eye for a player in the market is suspect. Tielemans and Fofana are probably the only two successes he had while at Leicester.

Wasn’t Tielemans already there when Rodger’s arrived?

[Kopenhagen]

Dean Smith. You can't be serious.

Bye bye.

[Lynndenberries]

Wasn’t Tielemans already there when Rodger’s arrived?

On loan initially, became permanent that summer with Rodgers as manager.

[mattD]

 Dean Smith over Rodgers?

That'll be them in the Championship.

[Cafe De Paris]

Honestly the lunatics really have taken over. Dean smith over Brendan Rodgers. So they take out a proven winner to be replaced by someone who did ef all. Amazing. Why?

[paulrazor]

The weirdest thing about Brendan is his instincts are his own worst enemy. He seems really good when he has to improvise and try to attack but as soon as things start going badly he reverts to a type of football that is terrible unless you're at a relegation type level. I can't speak for any of his time at Celtic but he seemingly never learns that playing dour defensive possession football is bad and gives bad results. This current Leicester team for instance are seemingly built to play in transition but that would expose them defensively so he won't do it. Ndidi never recovering from his injuries has been a big blow as well. Tielemanns and Dewsberry-Hall together are like having two Joe Allen's on the field. A lot of pretty passing but no ball winning or anything else.

I think he famously said during a bad run with us he was up til 4 or 5am some nights trying to figure things out.

Way too much over analysis, he second guesses himself a lot for me, last few months with us, we were on a good run during 2014-5 and then one bad result at home to united it comes crashing down and he starts trying different formations.

Felt like in his last few matches he was chopping and changing formations, a bad result always seemed to throw him out.

By the time he left us he didnt even know his best formation let alone his best team

[Dim Glas]

So it looks like Rodgers will be going back to Celtic then be so much back-tracking going on!

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1668617992001966082?s=20

[disgraced cake]

Every time I think about his time at Celtic I think about that story he made up told of that old woman who supported Rangers coming up to him in the street and thanking him for all he'd brought to Scottish football. Really funny fella.

[Black Bull Nova]

So it looks like Rodgers will be going back to Celtic then be so much back-tracking going on!

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1668617992001966082?s=20

Oh they will love that, don't tell me he's going back to his ex-wife as well

[Ray K]

Oh they will love that, don't tell me he's going back to his ex-wife Colin Pascoe as well

[rafathegaffa83]

His stock has taken a nosedive after last season. A bit like Potter at Chelsea, if Rodgers had quit last summer he'd have been a lead candidate for the Spurs job. I don't think going back to Celtic truly benefits him although perhaps there is the realization that that a Top 6 PL job is likely beyond him for the forseeable future, if not for good

[Red Beret]

Every time I think about his time at Celtic I think about that story he made up told of that old woman who supported Rangers coming up to him in the street and thanking him for all he'd brought to Scottish football. Really funny fella.

Big men, manly men, Rangers fans. They'd go up to Brendan with tears in their eyes, thanking him for all he had done for Scottish football.

His stock has taken a nosedive after last season. A bit like Potter at Chelsea, if Rodgers had quit last summer he'd have been a lead candidate for the Spurs job. I don't think going back to Celtic truly benefits him although perhaps there is the realization that that a Top 6 PL job is likely beyond him for the forseeable future, if not for good

Judging by Leicester, if Brendan took over a top six club, they wouldn't be top six very much longer.

[Red-Soldier]

Big men, manly men, Rangers fans. They'd go up to Brendan with tears in their eyes, thanking him for all he had done for Scottish football.

Judging by Leicester, if Brendan took over a top six club, they wouldn't be top six very much longer.

They'd be fine for a couple of years.  Then drop off a cliff.

[Terry de Niro]

"I'm very proud to be back here"

I wonder if he's taking Kolo ("he's a wonderful Human Being") Touré with him.

[Max_powers]

Big men, manly men, Rangers fans. They'd go up to Brendan with tears in their eyes, thanking him for all he had done for Scottish football.

Judging by Leicester, if Brendan took over a top six club, they wouldn't be top six very much longer.

TBF, when he took over they were not a top six club either. They were in 12th.

They finished 5th twice and 8th in his first three seasons and won an FA Cup.

Rodgers is the type of manager that has shelf life but Leicester's downfall is a more complex story. They had a few bad transfers, didn't nearly invest enough when the core of the team was aging, and sold some of their biggest assets. The 21/22 transfer window was in particular was thier downfall.

Daka was supposed to be the Vardy replacement. Vestegaard was supposed to be the starting CB to replace MCguire and Soumare was supposed to be the next Ndidi. All three were busts.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Kolo is wonderful though.

[Kopenhagen]

Probably finished at the top level. Most top clubs will (and should) stay well away from him.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Probably finished at the top level. Most top clubs will (and should) stay well away from him.

Yeah, finished at the top level, being employed by a club that start next season in the Champions league, what a step down.

[afc tukrish]

"I'm very proud to be back here"

I wonder if he's taking Kolo ("he's a wonderful Human Being") Touré with him.

Everyone should take Kolo with them, everywhere...

[Lone Star Red]

Probably finished at the top level. Most top clubs will (and should) stay well away from him.

What's your definition of the top level?

[Lad]

Yeah, finished at the top level, being employed by a club that start next season in the Champions league, what a step down.

They always start in the Champions League but don't tend to hang around too long.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

They always start in the Champions League but don't tend to hang around too long.

That's irrelevant, it is the top level, there's nothing above it in club football.

[DangerScouse]

The bitterness towards him on here is utterly pathetic. I wonder how many were in the ground chanting his name en masse after the our last game when he very nearly ended our elusive fight for number 19. Fuck all I'd say.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

The bitterness towards him on here is utterly pathetic. I wonder how many were in the ground chanting his name en masse after the our last game when he very nearly ended our elusive fight for number 19. Fuck all I'd say.

Yeah, it's crazy, Hodgson was horrendous, in both his coaching of the team and how he handled himself, and the club in the media, yet Rodgers draws equal ire from some, absolutely baffling, still my most exciting season as a Red by far, yes you can argue blah blah blah Suarez, but that undermines the brilliance of so many others.

[Lone Star Red]

Every time this thread pops up I cringe a little, knowing when I open it up, there's usually people taking potshots at Rodgers. Don't understand it at all, genuinely weird and small-time behavior.

[Dazzer23]

Agreed, he came out with some cringey stuff early in his career, and when he was with us, but I’ve always found the contempt he draws on here pretty unfathomable.

[Black Bull Nova]

As regards his time at Liverpool I don't have a problem at all. I think some of the revisionism here suggests he was nothing without Suarez but he brought in Sturridge, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Gomez, Ings, Lovren, Origi, Can, Allen, Milner, Clyne etc and improved us and laid the foundations for the current team in many ways. (That said he also brought in Balotelli, Benteke, Moses and Aspas)

I suspect Celtic, Swansea and Watford fans see him differently (albeit Celtic fans may be confused how they feel).

He's a decent manager. but there is something about him that appears to wear out after a couple of years.

[demain]

There's nothing wrong with pointing out that Rodgers' teams lose intensity and direction after a couple of seasons, his last year at Leicester was horrendous even if there were mitigating circumstances with transfer restrictions after funds had dried up for the Thai owners. He still carries blame for Leicester's bad form, that team shouldn't have been anywhere close to the relegation spots. I am not confident that he would have prevented relegation had he not been sacked.

Saying that, there is a cringeworthy glee amongst a certain section of Liverpool supporters when they take shots at Rodgers and engage in the stupid, mindless banter that was made up by opposition supporters when he was Liverpool manager. It's pathetic and demeaning when our own line up to disrespect someone who's never (as far as I know) had a bad word to say about the club.

His Celtic move is a bit strange, but I suppose he was never in the reckoning for a top tier premier league job after how his stint ended at Leicester, so winning silverware is better than a job in the Championship. He really needs to show that he has progressed tactically in Europe though, can't keep making the same mistakes.

[Barneylfc∗]

92 clubs in the English league system. As of today, 11 of those 92 have a manager that has been at the club for 3+ years. 

[Red-Soldier]

Yeah, it's crazy, Hodgson was horrendous, in both his coaching of the team and how he handled himself, and the club in the media, yet Rodgers draws equal ire from some, absolutely baffling, still my most exciting season as a Red by far, yes you can argue blah blah blah Suarez, but that undermines the brilliance of so many others.

You've just been taking some swipes at him yourself! 

[De La Goal]

As regards his time at Liverpool I don't have a problem at all. I think some of the revisionism here suggests he was nothing without Suarez but he brought in Sturridge, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Gomez, Ings, Lovren, Origi, Can, Allen, Milner, Clyne etc and improved us and laid the foundations for the current team in many ways. (That said he also brought in Balotelli, Benteke, Moses and Aspas)

I suspect Celtic, Swansea and Watford fans see him differently (albeit Celtic fans may be confused how they feel).

He's a decent manager. but there is something about him that appears to wear out after a couple of years.

Rodgers certainly worked well for a while and made the most of what he had. Put the 2019-20 defence in the 2013-14 team, and they would have cruised to the title.

As for your rum transfers list... Nothing wrong with Aspas, as his post-LFC career has shown, in spades. He was unlucky to be around when the Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling axis was on a phenomenal roll. And Moses was a loan that didn't work out, but he was hardly a disaster.

Balotelli and Benteke, on the other hand... Stripping Rodgers of Suarez, (effectively) Sturridge and (eventually) Sterling was always going to be fatal without adequate replacements. Balotelli, Benteke (and Lambert) were anything but. As for poor old Fabio Borini...

[pathetic]

Rodgers certainly worked well for a while and made the most of what he had. Put the 2019-20 defence in the 2013-14 team, and they would have cruised to the title.

As for your rum transfers list... Nothing wrong with Aspas, as his post-LFC career has shown, in spades. He was unlucky to be around when the Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling axis was on a phenomenal roll. And Moses was a loan that didn't work out, but he was hardly a disaster.

Balotelli and Benteke, on the other hand... Stripping Rodgers of Suarez, (effectively) Sturridge and (eventually) Sterling was always going to be fatal without adequate replacements. Balotelli, Benteke (and Lambert) were anything but. As for poor old Fabio Borini...

I am one of those people that never really took to Rodgers. Having said that I must admit that watching the reds that season was IMO the most entertaining we've ever been. Rodgers must swallow his arrogance/ego and let a sporting director shape the team for him as he's excellent at coaching a team but when it comes to team building, he's clueless. Only then we can judge if he's effective in the long term.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Big men, manly men, Rangers fans. They'd go up to Brendan with tears in their eyes, thanking him for all he had done for Scottish football.

Judging by Leicester, if Brendan took over a top six club, they wouldn't be top six very much longer.

Leicester were 12th when he got there after finishing 12th and 9th the seasons before. He's significantly improved the last four clubs he's been at, he just hasn't been able to maintain it long term (as many managers don't).

[Red Beret]

Leicester were 12th when he got there after finishing 12th and 9th the seasons before. He's significantly improved the last four clubs he's been at, he just hasn't been able to maintain it long term (as many managers don't).

Away with your logic when I'm trying to make jokes!

More seriously, Rodgers is a decent enough manager but he clearly has a ceiling. His problem is that he doesn't seem to realise that. That's not a reflection on him though. You only have to look at the revolving door at United to see money doesn't guarantee success if you have the wrong manager. The issue is smaller clubs feel their manager's mistakes more keenly.

[Yorkykopite]

Leicester were 12th when he got there after finishing 12th and 9th the seasons before. He's significantly improved the last four clubs he's been at, he just hasn't been able to maintain it long term (as many managers don't).

Good post. He also won the FA Cup for Leicester which they hadn't won before in 137 years.

[Sheer Magnetism]

More seriously, Rodgers is a decent enough manager but he clearly has a ceiling. His problem is that he doesn't seem to realise that. That's not a reflection on him though. You only have to look at the revolving door at United to see money doesn't guarantee success if you have the wrong manager. The issue is smaller clubs feel their manager's mistakes more keenly.

I don't know if it's a ceiling so much as an expiration date, and that holds true with almost every manager in the world. It's been almost a decade since Conte lasted three seasons anywhere, same with Tuchel. Rodgers' CV means he deserves a chance at a big established club IMO, and winning things in the second season and getting sacked in the third wouldn't change that.

[Alisson Wonderland]

I'm surprised he looks like he's going back to Celtic but maybe he likes the easy win.  I thought he might challenge himself a bit more by either managing abroad or going to a Crystal Palace level team in the Premier League.

[De La Goal]

I am one of those people that never really took to Rodgers. Having said that I must admit that watching the reds that season was IMO the most entertaining we've ever been. Rodgers must swallow his arrogance/ego and let a sporting director shape the team for him as he's excellent at coaching a team but when it comes to team building, he's clueless. Only then we can judge if he's effective in the long term.

T' Committee didn't count? 

[thaddeus]

I'm surprised he looks like he's going back to Celtic but maybe he likes the easy win.  I thought he might challenge himself a bit more by either managing abroad or going to a Crystal Palace level team in the Premier League.

It's a handy career reset for him.  Realistically he's going to continue Celtic's recent dominance and, after a year or two, he can start casting his eye towards the Premier League again with the benefit of being able to wait for the right job.

If he went to Palace now and didn't do well then his prospects of another top job would be pretty much gone.

[Dim Glas]

I'm surprised he looks like he's going back to Celtic but maybe he likes the easy win.  I thought he might challenge himself a bit more by either managing abroad or going to a Crystal Palace level team in the Premier League.

And wants to be at a club who will make the CL each year just to be in it, and at a club with a huge support that packs out their big ground every week and a club that are a focus point of their league and known worldwide.

He’s had a taste at one of the true giants of the game, even if it wasn’t at a successful time for the club, and the idea of then going onto clubs like Palace for instance just isn’t something he wants to do now. Going to Leciester made perfect sense, as it could have been a stepping stone to one of the big boys again. But as things went badly wrong there, that chance has gone.