Topic: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance

[kaesarsosei]

Begging for this City team to slip up really is the new Groundhog Day 

[redk84]

Begging for this City team to slip up really is the new Groundhog Day 

I don't even think it is about begging for City to drop points.....yet.....it was a couple weeks ago, but things have changed a bit in the last week or so. We were winning with a depleted squad and at that point yeah great, look at the others and hope they drop points whatever.

But (for me anyway) - last week highlighted that we've let a few things catchup to us and now the results on the pitch aren't there to cover it up. We really can't look outside of ourselves until we string together some wins and can feel like that can continue, hopefully the performances in our next few games can give back some confidence
 
Having a lot of games coming thick and fast can be a gift or a curse in that respect.

[slaphead]

I wonder if our lads watching that tonight get revved up a little bit and click into gear. I know if it was me I'd be watching the 2 teams thinking we can take them. We look a bit goosed, but I always think when you see your opponent the same you have a little window where you can put your foot to their throat a bit. Both us and Arsenal have tough games this weekend but if they drop more points we have a real chance to make a fist of things again

[your djemba djembas]

eh, could have really done with Manchester City winning tonight to be fair

[Barneylfc∗]

eh, could have really done with Manchester City winning tonight to be fair

We could've done with Chelsea beating PSG in the quarter finals in 2014...


Oh, they did.

[Kopenhagen]

Tonight’s results make me think something magical still might happen for us. Come on Redmen.

[HardworkDedication]

It's now highly unlikely that 5th place will get a CL spot. This now means that Spurs are in a right battle with Villa to finish in the top four. The concern I had was by the time they face City, 5th spot and a CL place may have been all but confirmed and we may have seen a lack of fight by Spurs due to them being on the beach. That's not going to be the case now. They will have no choice but to go hard against City as I pretty much doubt top 4 will have been secured by the time they face each other.  On the other hand we can absolutely forget about Utd helping us out when they play Arsenal. They have no chance of playing CL football next season which also means there is not a cat in hells chance of them trying against Arsenal to help benefit Liverpool and City regardless of it being their last home league of the season.

[Zlen]

All about Spurs now.
They will need all the points they can get unless VIlla collapse.
Good that out of all top three teams playing against Spurs, we're the only ones that have them at home.

[UntouchableLuis]

Ultimately we have to beat both Spurs and Villa, 2 highly motivated teams right now with quality to hurt.

Then there's the small matter of the bitter blues away.

But first Fulham away, a slightly in form side themselves.

I actually think if you were to hand pick 6 games you'd want to avoid for us right now, those 4 games might be in there with probably Chelsea and United.

You'd obviously want to play City and Arsenal to take points back from them.

For me, it's almost on the scale of an Istanbul what needs to happen for us to be Champions now, but let's just see game by game.

[GarciaAndNunezNunezNunez]

eh, could have really done with Manchester City winning tonight to be fair

They would have breezed the CL had they gone through last night. I also think it would have made absolutely zero difference to their title run in also

[spider-neil]

They would have breezed the CL had they gone through last night. I also think it would have made absolutely zero difference to their title run in also

The semi-final made fuck all difference to them in the league last season.

[lionel_messias]

There is no point worrying about the others yet, we need some form.

I'll take any sort of win tonight and a scrappy win on Sunday.

Then we can talk business next week. Anyone not beating this Everton side
has problem anyway...

[spider-neil]

The draw with Manu and two defeats in a row have made me take a step back and just enjoy the rest of the season and forget the pressure of the run-in. We only have a handful of games with Klopp in charge now. I don't think people have allowed that to sink in.

[Son of Spion]

They would have breezed the CL had they gone through last night. I also think it would have made absolutely zero difference to their title run in also

Definitely. If they'd have gone through last night they'd have gone on to buy lift the trophy. I'm chuffed that the cheating scumbags are out.

[GreatEx]

My main hope for City last night was that they'd have to play 120 minutes plus penalties, so a big tick there. And I think them losing just 3 days before another cup semi final could work to our advantage. Imagine if they go the distance and get knocked out again,  with one of their former youth products starring... even though they don't have a soul, that's got to hurt. Then suddenly they've gone from the dream of a double-treble to fighting for "only" one trophy... hopefully with that 4- point deficit I alluded to in my previous post. Bit of panic sets in, Pip starts to overthink things and plays a 6-1-3 formation with Ederson as ac wide forward... ?

[kaesarsosei]

I'm pretty confident Chelsea will also dump City out of the FA Cup on Sat. However I also think City will canter to the title after that, but ironically it will feel like a disappointment for them.

Also fancy us to finish second. Arsenal are starting to look very ordinary going forward and they have a nasty final 6 games.

[GarciaAndNunezNunezNunez]

They absolutely bottled those penalties last night - make no mistake about it. Madrid had the psychological edge. Even Modric booted the ball into the crowd after he missed which delayed Silva's kick. They haven't been very good at facing adversity in Europe at all

That will really sting them as they should have won. Some added pressure and a knock to their momentum will make it more interesting imo

[thisyearisouryear]

Begging for this City team to slip up really is the new Groundhog Day 

Heh. The real Groundhog Day is being back to hoping for ex-Liverpool players to do us a favor :p

I remember it was Carroll-Downing at WestHam in 2014. It was Coutinho-Ings at Villa in 2022.

Who do we have this time? Milner-Lallana at Brighton? Origi-Neco at Nottingham? Who else?

[BoRed]

Heh. The real Groundhog Day is being back to hoping for ex-Liverpool players to do us a favor :p

I remember it was Carroll-Downing at WestHam in 2014. It was Coutinho-Ings at Villa in 2022.

Who do we have this time? Milner-Lallana at Brighton? Origi-Neco at Nottingham? Who else?

Ings is at West Ham now. Harry Wilson at Fulham. That's about it, I think.

[Fordy]

Ings is at West Ham now. Harry Wilson at Fulham. That's about it, I think.

Sure some of the players playing for the teams against City will be Liverpool fans also, even though they haven’t worn the Liverpool shirt.

[thisyearisouryear]

Ings is at West Ham now. Harry Wilson at Fulham. That's about it, I think.

Nice. So you are basically saying City are dropping points in 4 games - WestHam, Forest, Fulham, and Brighton.

Got it!

[BoRed]

Nice. So you are basically saying City are dropping points in 4 games - WestHam, Forest, Fulham, and Brighton.

Got it!

And that's without even mentioning Postecoglou.

[Barneylfc∗]

And that's without even mentioning Postecoglou.

They've also to play Wolves who stole our Firmino song for Raul Jimenez, so they'll want to pay us back for that.

[Gerard00]

Ultimately we have to beat both Spurs and Villa, 2 highly motivated teams right now with quality to hurt.

Then there's the small matter of the bitter blues away.

But first Fulham away, a slightly in form side themselves.

I actually think if you were to hand pick 6 games you'd want to avoid for us right now, those 4 games might be in there with probably Chelsea and United.

You'd obviously want to play City and Arsenal to take points back from them.

For me, it's almost on the scale of an Istanbul what needs to happen for us to be Champions now, but let's just see game by game.

Been saying for weeks its not just about the sides on paper / points tally etc. Beating Liverpool in the league is once again one of the biggest achievements for other teams. Its why if we win another league it'll probably be because we've built up such a healthy lead going into the last 5-10 games that we've tempered that motivation or can ride it out a bit.

With the exception of United (for City and maybe Arsenal) and Spurs (for Arsenal) the other teams don't really care about getting turned over by them. Add that to the remaining fixtures and our form i'd say it would be more of a miracle than Istanbul and tonight!

[skipper757]

“Origi, lovely cushioned header, for Williams!”

[Draex]

Brighton just gave their players a 2-3 days mini-break so they can refreshed to get top 4.

[newterp]

Brighton just gave their players a 2-3 days mini-break so they can refreshed to get top 4.

Well they certainly aren't getting top 4 - but anything that make a tough game for Abu Dhabi - let's gooooo!

[Caligula?]

City may drops points but there's absolutely no chance in hell we're going to take advantage. Winning six on the bounce given how we've been playing seems an almost impossible task. It's 99% done.

[disgraced cake]

Fucked it just as the going got tough. Very un-Liverpool like under Klopp. Himself and players both to blame.

[darragh85]

We arent winning another match this season.

[QC]

Over 270 minutes now without a goal from open play. The attack has fallen apart completely

[UntouchableLuis]

City may drops points but there's absolutely no chance in hell we're going to take advantage. Winning six on the bounce given how we've been playing seems an almost impossible task. It's 99% done.

Yep.

I can't see us scoring many goals at all. What the hell has happened since that United FA Cup game?

[djschembri]

So, just the league left to go.
Bad time to forget how to attack, never mind score

[Gili Gulu]

We arent winning another match this season.

Sadly I can see it happening

[HeartAndSoul]

That was a fucking embarrassing second half performance. Fucking hell didn’t create a single chance that second half

[TheCunningScorpion]

We are looking done, looks like a version of the end of 2014-15 season, seems like the players have lost a bit of belief... so strange and sad.

[eeekaj]

As much as I adore and worship Jurgen, I can’t wait for this to end and a new era. You can smell the lack of energy everywhere.

[Caps4444]

Over 270 minutes now without a goal from open play. The attack has fallen apart completely

Big misses at key moments in games.
Nunez last week, Salah today.

[Felch Aid]

So many issues with the team.

Looks like they've never played together and we are recycling how we used to play with players not suited to it.

Look a jaded team in need of freshen up.

Horrible stuff

[Newman96]

We’ll be scrapping for 4th at this rate