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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2720 on: March 30, 2024, 09:34:01 pm »
All the data I've looked at (the league table) says that Chelsea are shite.
Turn the table upside down, and they should be top four had Ev and Forest not docked points.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2721 on: March 30, 2024, 10:50:27 pm »
They’re 4th on XG for vs XG against I think.

But it’s a very very crude measure to use.

Anyway, they’re planning to seek, both James and Gallagher in the summer to avoid breaching PSR.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/chelsea-plan-sell-reece-james-conor-gallagher-summer-62pflrhlt


There’s is no single way that anyone is paying out big money for James.  Because the guy is injured more than Thiago. 
And Gallagher is one year from going on a free.

And on paper they are their two best players.  :lmao. What a way to run a club
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2722 on: March 30, 2024, 10:53:40 pm »
They’re 4th on XG for vs XG against I think.

But it’s a very very crude measure to use.

Anyway, they’re planning to seek, both James and Gallagher in the summer to avoid breaching PSR.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/chelsea-plan-sell-reece-james-conor-gallagher-summer-62pflrhlt


There’s is no single way that anyone is paying out big money for James.  Because the guy is injured more than Thiago. 
And Gallagher is one year from going on a free.

And on paper they are their two best players.  :lmao. What a way to run a club
xG does not factor in the quality of the players taking the shot or facing it.

Thst's the difference between them and United. United are shit in their box but efficient in the opposition's box while Chelsea are shit in both boxes. Only Palmer has that quality that's keeping them in midtable.

Also, anyone club that signs James is off their head because of his wages and injury record. You are right.

Basically,  they've been reset to what they used to be. They are just hoping that their big money flops will come good.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2723 on: March 31, 2024, 02:24:40 am »
They’re 4th on XG for vs XG against I think.

But it’s a very very crude measure to use.

Anyway, they’re planning to seek, both James and Gallagher in the summer to avoid breaching PSR.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/chelsea-plan-sell-reece-james-conor-gallagher-summer-62pflrhlt


There’s is no single way that anyone is paying out big money for James.  Because the guy is injured more than Thiago. 
And Gallagher is one year from going on a free.

And on paper they are their two best players.  :lmao. What a way to run a club
With reports saying that Sir Rat wants to go more British at United, I wouldn't be surprised to see them both over there  ;D

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2724 on: March 31, 2024, 12:20:53 pm »
With reports saying that Sir Rat wants to go more British at United, I wouldn't be surprised to see them both over there  ;D
Gallagher to MU is almost certain to happen imo.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2725 on: April 2, 2024, 07:40:12 am »
With reports saying that Sir Rat wants to go more British at United, I wouldn't be surprised to see them both over there  ;D
Imagine what Southgate could do with James, Gallagher, Mount and Rashy and the new Zidane/Mathaus. They'll run away with the league. Be afraid everyone, be very afraid.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2726 on: April 2, 2024, 01:09:02 pm »
Imagine what Southgate could do with James, Gallagher, Mount and Rashy and the new Zidane/Mathaus. They'll run away with the league. Be afraid everyone MU supporters, be very afraid.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2727 on: April 5, 2024, 04:47:25 pm »
Every time I see a highlight of Caicedo, he's making a mistake, lol. I can't believe they paid £115m for him.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2728 on: April 13, 2024, 10:27:46 am »
So…. Their accounts show that they made PSR. By…… selling their hotel (which is part of one of their stands) to….er.. themselves


Utterly corrupt.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2729 on: April 13, 2024, 11:53:07 am »
Here you go



Otherwise they’d have missed PSR by a huuuuuge margin
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2730 on: April 13, 2024, 12:00:33 pm »
Surely that’s grounds for a charge…there’s no way the regulations haven’t catered for this scenario
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2731 on: April 13, 2024, 12:08:23 pm »
Cheats should NEVER prosper.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2732 on: April 13, 2024, 12:37:17 pm »
Cheats should NEVER prosper.

They do in football.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2733 on: April 13, 2024, 01:33:56 pm »
Players costing £592m were sold for £203m, although accounting rules mean that generated a profit of £63m.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2734 on: April 13, 2024, 01:35:44 pm »
Surely that’s grounds for a charge…there’s no way the regulations haven’t catered for this scenario
Clubs didn't vote on it

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2735 on: April 13, 2024, 01:42:01 pm »
Cheats should NEVER prosper.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2736 on: April 13, 2024, 02:50:45 pm »
The whole deal to sell Chelsea once UK sanctions kicked in has been as corrupt as fuck. From the terms of the sale, to the destination of the money raised by the sale, to the terms of ownership, to the funding of the ownership, and now the avoidance of PSR sanctions by some of history's most creative of accounting.

Then again, what did we expect once Johnson's Tory government got involved?

I've been banging this drum for ages, hoping that one of the, still world leading, investigative journalists we have in this country will get involved. The wait continues.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2737 on: April 14, 2024, 10:01:17 am »
Chelsea got out of FFP as they sold their hotel to themselves.

Appears they have £164m worth of assets left to sell to themselves. This is a farce. The other clubs need to vote to stop this asap.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2738 on: April 14, 2024, 10:13:33 am »
That loophole is a huge advantage to London clubs where real estate is bonkers, and often quite shady with so many loopholes already.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2739 on: April 14, 2024, 10:24:06 am »
Here you go



Otherwise they’d have missed PSR by a huuuuuge margin
It's not sustainable. They made their biggest operating loss in a while.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2740 on: April 14, 2024, 10:37:20 am »
It's not sustainable. They made their biggest operating loss in a while.

They will eventually run out of assets to sell but it will have given them £300m extra moving room. Championship and Uefa banned this loophole but it's not banned in premier league. I suspect and hope there are strong calls to ban it with immediate affect. I suspect Chelsea have already sold their £164m assets to themselves hence why they are not worried about failing FFP this year.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2741 on: April 14, 2024, 10:47:17 am »
They will eventually run out of assets to sell but it will have given them £300m extra moving room. Championship and Uefa banned this loophole but it's not banned in premier league. I suspect and hope there are strong calls to ban it with immediate affect. I suspect Chelsea have already sold their £164m assets to themselves hence why they are not worried about failing FFP this year.
The league has been proactive in that respect. Chelsea look desperate to me so I find what they're doing very funny. It's not like the league would have docked them many points for it anyway.

If they qualify for a UEFA competition then they have to comply with tighter rules and they should already be building towards that. Their strategy is a huge failure.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2742 on: April 14, 2024, 10:55:45 am »
The league has been proactive in that respect. Chelsea look desperate to me so I find what they're doing very funny. It's not like the league would have docked them many points for it anyway.

If they qualify for a UEFA competition then they have to comply with tighter rules and they should already be building towards that. Their strategy is a huge failure.

I imagine a few clubs will be wanted to change the rules quickly
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2743 on: April 14, 2024, 11:03:12 am »
I hope Everton twat them 5-0 on Monday
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2744 on: April 16, 2024, 07:02:30 am »
what on earth was that fight for who takes the penalty?

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« Reply #2745 on: April 16, 2024, 07:12:48 am »
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2746 on: April 16, 2024, 07:30:10 am »
They are ripe for a fire sale now.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2747 on: April 16, 2024, 07:51:42 am »
what on earth was that fight for who takes the penalty?

Embarrassing that, shows what that locker room really is - schoolboy stuff.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2748 on: April 16, 2024, 08:47:25 am »
what on earth was that fight for who takes the penalty?
Not sure what others think but if the team is 4-0 up and you have already scored a hat trick, you would want to be some sort of selfish asshole not to let one of your teammates take the penalty but insist you do it.
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« Reply #2749 on: April 16, 2024, 08:51:08 am »
Not sure what others think but if the team is 4-0 up and you have already scored a hat trick, you would want to be some sort of selfish asshole not to let one of your teammates take the penalty but insist you do it.

Very much doubt Mo is giving that up in that situation.

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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2750 on: April 16, 2024, 08:52:23 am »
Not sure what others think but if the team is 4-0 up and you have already scored a hat trick, you would want to be some sort of selfish asshole not to let one of your teammates take the penalty but insist you do it.

He's on for a golden boot in his first proper season. Can't blame him one bit, personally.

It was the other two that were making a tit of themselves like two kids in the playground.

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« Reply #2751 on: April 16, 2024, 08:56:48 am »
Not sure what others think but if the team is 4-0 up and you have already scored a hat trick, you would want to be some sort of selfish asshole not to let one of your teammates take the penalty but insist you do it.

He's cracked 20 PL goals and is equal to the freak that his former club spunked a bucket load of cash on instead of giving him a break.
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Re: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids
« Reply #2752 on: April 16, 2024, 09:09:01 am »
Very much doubt Mo is giving that up in that situation.
Not convinced that is good team building.
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« Reply #2753 on: April 16, 2024, 09:14:08 am »
Tend to think the one who has a strop about not being given a penalty to try and rack up the easy goals when they’re not the regular taker is the one who looks more pathetic in that scenario. But then there were two of them at it! Or was Madueke trying to keep the peace?

At the same time, not sure what to make of the chinless wonder Palmer. Top scorer in the league but has 9 penalties. Even without those that would be a very tidy return in his first season I guess, but I think it will lead to him being slightly overhyped when they talk about England starting line ups etc, not that I’m overly bothered by that.

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« Reply #2754 on: April 16, 2024, 09:26:01 am »
Didn’t see the other gobshytes fighting to to take the late extra time penalty against the Mancs the week before.
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« Reply #2755 on: April 16, 2024, 09:52:36 am »
Anybody else notice when the young lad scored Chelsea’s 6th goal. He ran to the crowd and some big fat cockney wankah , Razor Ruddock lookalike, had his arms outstretched waiting for an embrace but got ignored , he then started having a go at the player and swearing at him. Made me larf it did.

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« Reply #2756 on: April 16, 2024, 09:56:36 am »
Anybody else notice when the young lad scored Chelsea’s 6th goal. He ran to the crowd and some big fat cockney wankah , Razor Ruddock lookalike, had his arms outstretched waiting for an embrace but got ignored , he then started having a go at the player and swearing at him. Made me larf it did.

Haha missed that. I did comment about how OTT celebrations were (call the celebration police!) but my son was more charitable. Guess he’s a boyhood fan and a big moment for him. Is he any good? Gets a lot of sub appearances but can’t say I’ve ever seen him do anything. He had about half an hour to put that away last night!

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« Reply #2757 on: April 16, 2024, 10:10:26 am »
Haha missed that. I did comment about how OTT celebrations were (call the celebration police!) but my son was more charitable. Guess he’s a boyhood fan and a big moment for him. Is he any good? Gets a lot of sub appearances but can’t say I’ve ever seen him do anything. He had about half an hour to put that away last night!
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« Reply #2758 on: April 16, 2024, 12:46:28 pm »
After this weekend's results, maybe Chelsea can take some points off of Arsenalon Tuesday.   Be funny if they do - they are only 3 points back from United, with a game in hand (and massively better GD).  United don't play either until Wednesday, so a win would elevate them (temporarily) to 6th.  Obviously Arsenal have the CL QF on Wednesday first, and then Chelsea play City in the FA Cup on Saturday. 

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« Reply #2759 on: April 16, 2024, 12:59:49 pm »
I'm not sure if he'd fit our No Dickheads policy but Palmer seems a proper player.