Topic: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*

[Barneylfc∗]

They're a bit shit aren't they. Extremely lucky to have 6 points from 9 even with what should've been 2 of the easiest home fixtures of the season to kick off with.

Maybe Seven Hag isn't the saviour after all.

NO GREENWOOD TALK.

[rob1966]

Yep still as shit as always,its break out the green and gold scarves time again

[Crosby Nick]

Feels like we’re being underestimated a bit, not just in the media but the general sense I get from speaking to supporters of other teams. The players leaving, the Caicedo saga etc, it’s like they all think we’re on a downward spiral.

By contrast, doesn’t seem to be that much chat about how underwhelming these look. Scraped two home wins against bottom 6 sides and well beaten away from home. Their away firm was awful last season too. They have a decent unbeaten run at home but you feel that will go soon.

The football is pretty turgid. They’re struggling to land their targets too. Ten Hag only seems to trust players he’s coached before.

Worrying Times.

[Phineus]

They look very, very poor. I think it all depends on when their purple patch comes, if ETH lasts the season.

Casemiro is going to fall off a cliff and Amrabat is the not answer to any good question.

Don't know enough about their new striker to comment, but Mount wasn't the type of midfielder they needed at all.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

These should be funny in the CL

It’s mad how often these get shown up in Europe performance wise.

[Hoenheim]

Their midfield is gash, their defense is a joke and injured a lot, their new striker has barely scored 10 goals in a season, Onana is worse than De Gea, ETH seems to be obsessed with signing players he previously coached.
So yeah, they are shit and won't finish in top 4

[Red Beret]

Feels like we’re being underestimated a bit, not just in the media but the general sense I get from speaking to supporters of other teams. The players leaving, the Caicedo saga etc, it’s like they all think we’re on a downward spiral.

Nothing new in that though, really. We've been getting talked down for years.

[eddymunster]

Feels like we’re being underestimated a bit, not just in the media but the general sense I get from speaking to supporters of other teams. The players leaving, the Caicedo saga etc, it’s like they all think we’re on a downward spiral.

By contrast, doesn’t seem to be that much chat about how underwhelming these look. Scraped two home wins against bottom 6 sides and well beaten away from home. Their away firm was awful last season too. They have a decent unbeaten run at home but you feel that will go soon.

The football is pretty turgid. They’re struggling to land their targets too. Ten Hag only seems to trust players he’s coached before.

Worrying Times.

Dunno, Chris Sutton had us getting smashed 3-0 by Newcastle on Friday, then was bigging us up as City's closest challengers on Monday....

Fancy United to get well beaten by Arsenal Sunday

[rob1966]

These should be funny in the CL

It’s mad how often these get shown up in Europe performance wise.

Looking forwards to the missus muttering "this is fucking shite" for the next few months while the kids rip the piss out of her

[rob1966]

Feels like we’re being underestimated a bit, not just in the media but the general sense I get from speaking to supporters of other teams. The players leaving, the Caicedo saga etc, it’s like they all think we’re on a downward spiral.

There's fucking plenty on here doing that

[Son of Spion]

Shite.


(The Mancs, I mean. Not the above comment).

[BoRed]

These should be funny in the CL

It’s mad how often these get shown up in Europe performance wise.

Honestly seems like they can't beat anyone without referees stepping in to help these days, which doesn't happen in Europe.

[rob1966]

Honestly seems like they can't beat anyone without referees stepping in to help these days, which doesn't happen in Europe.

That is the difference. In Europe they're nothing in the eyes of the refs, they don't get gifted pens, free kicks etc, so really struggle

[Son of Spion]

Feels like we’re being underestimated a bit, not just in the media but the general sense I get from speaking to supporters of other teams. The players leaving, the Caicedo saga etc, it’s like they all think we’re on a downward spiral.

By contrast, doesn’t seem to be that much chat about how underwhelming these look. Scraped two home wins against bottom 6 sides and well beaten away from home. Their away firm was awful last season too. They have a decent unbeaten run at home but you feel that will go soon.

The football is pretty turgid. They’re struggling to land their targets too. Ten Hag only seems to trust players he’s coached before.

Worrying Times.

Given how they have long been the media darlings in this country, there has always been a tendency to big these up whilst also talking Liverpool down. As most of us know, that went on even in our 70s and 80s pomp, when the Mancs were abject and seen by us as a joke.

I'm quite enjoying others underestimating us at the moment, though. Yes, I'd agree that we were on a downward spiral, but hopefully that has been mostly addressed now. The players who have left were in decline anyway. Virtually everyone on here would agree with that.

Today, though, we have a fantastic attack. The midfield has been reinvigorated greatly and hopefully centre back will be addressed today, or more likely in January. Klopp looks well up for it again. Last season was a hangover I feel we've now recovered from.

From best team in the world a few seasons ago to where we were last season, yes, that's a clear decline. But I believe we are on the upward curve once more. Uni7ed? Well they just seem to be treading water and flattering to decieve.

[Schmidt]

Scraping results while looking shit is "The United Way" at this point.

[jonkrux]

Quick scope on redcafe (yes I know, it's a bit sad, I'm on security shift on the railway and not seen anyone in the last 3 days so I'm particularly bored) and they are worried the Amrabat deal may collapse and for some reason think we are in for Todibo. Worrying times.

[gerrardisgod]

That backup keeper looks like a right clown, I’d say they’d struggle if Onana gets an injury…but he ain’t much better.

[Original]

Shower of c*nts

[Crosby Nick]

That backup keeper looks like a right clown, I’d say they’d struggle if Onana gets an injury…but he ain’t much better.

Who is their back up keeper? Did they sign someone from Turkey?

[Persephone]

All I've heard from United fans is that Ten Hag hasn't been backed and they need the Qatari money to compete. He's spent 400m+ in 3 Windows and is still looking to spend more. Most of them are towing the party line that it's all the Glazers fault, and not the Managers who've come through and wasted the better part of 1billion and all they have to show for it is losing 7-0 to their arch rivals.

[gerrardisgod]

Yeah, announced it today, Bayindir.

[kaesarsosei]

Of course it's natural to shit on Utd on a Liverpool forum, but I really think they are fucked this season and have zero chance of top 4. If they get to the last 16 of the CL and qualify for any European competition next season I would regard that as over-achieving for them.

Maybe the saving grace for them will be that I also think there will be a shit-show at Newcastle which might distract from Man United's own woes.

[Qston]

That backup keeper looks like a right clown, I’d say they’d struggle if Onana gets an injury…but he ain’t much better.

Really don`t understand why they let De Gea go. Okay, he's not great with the ball at his feet, but he is a decent keeper nonetheless. If they have a limited budget it made no sense to me.

They are not finishing top 4 this season.

[Vinay]

Of course it's natural to shit on Utd on a Liverpool forum, but I really think they are fucked this season and have zero chance of top 4. If they get to the last 16 of the CL and qualify for any European competition next season I would regard that as over-achieving for them.

Maybe the saving grace for them will be that I also think there will be a shit-show at Newcastle which might distract from Man United's own woes.

Eric Seven Hag has the advantage against Arsenal on sunday. Reason: Anthony Taylor is the ref.

[Red-Soldier]

Of course it's natural to shit on Utd on a Liverpool forum, but I really think they are fucked this season and have zero chance of top 4. If they get to the last 16 of the CL and qualify for any European competition next season I would regard that as over-achieving for them.

Maybe the saving grace for them will be that I also think there will be a shit-show at Newcastle which might distract from Man United's own woes.

They are shit, but they will make top 4, as they will get help from refs in every match.

[BigCDump]

They are finishing 3rd in their CL group or I'm eating Salah's hat. Seven Hag really was relying on Rashford's usual purple patch last season, and of course us and Chelsea going through an incredibly shit patch.

Of course, no one tell them about Ole, I mean Hag. He's wonderful. Carry on.

[redgriffin73]

They look very, very poor. I think it all depends on when their purple patch comes, if ETH lasts the season.

Casemiro is going to fall off a cliff and Amrabat is the not answer to any good question.

Don't know enough about their new striker to comment, but Mount wasn't the type of midfielder they needed at all.

I keep forgetting they even signed Mount, has he done anything even remotely memorable for them yet?

[your djemba djembas]

Probably going to be easier for them to win the champions league than get a top 4 place this season. You can't trust the UCL, it's a knock out tournament after all

[red1977]

6th this year.

[KillieRed]

Got injured.

[rafathegaffa83]

Considering what they've spent this summer, I'm surprised they didn't just go for Kane. Their main target going into the summer was a top centre forward. They've ended up paying more than they said they would for Hojlund. They were going to keep De Gea because they were short of funds, but have ended up signing two keepers.

Man Utd spent a huge chunk of their output on Mount who plays in the same position as Fernandes. They were reportedly offered daft money for Maguire and McTominay, but couldn't move them on, which has resulted in them struggling to sign Amrabat of all people, even on loan. They've spent loads on defenders in recent years, but are having to loan Reguilon who can't get a game at Spurs, because of injuries. They'll probably end up using Jonny Evans at this rate.

And for all the complaints about our window, in addition to Man Utd taking an age to secure each signing, their summer has also been a PR nightmare.

[Zlen]

Watch them get pummeled by Arsenal this weekend and somehow win in the end. 🙄

[shook]

There appear to be a couple spots for 0 instead of O in the thread title

[RJH]

Considering what they've spent this summer, I'm surprised they didn't just go for Kane. Their main target going into the summer was a top centre forward. They've ended up paying more than they said they would for Hojlund.

You could ask - who signed the better forward, Bayern or United?

But the real question is - Which forward's name sounds most like Haaland? I think the winner is clear.

[Red_Rich]

Probably going to be easier for them to win the champions league than get a top 4 place this season. You can't trust the UCL, it's a knock out tournament after all

Correct.  Madrid somehow knock City out in the last 16 and then draw Bayern in the quarters and it all opens up.  Luck plays a big part sometimes.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Looking forwards to the missus muttering "this is fucking shite" for the next few months while the kids rip the piss out of her

Haha   

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Honestly seems like they can't beat anyone without referees stepping in to help these days, which doesn't happen in Europe.

Yeah, good point. Highlights out how shite our own ones are. They’re like celeb refs now our ones. Protected to fuck without anyone really holding them to account

[MJD-L4]

Their new keeper looks a bit shit. Made a few errors in pre-season and has been crap in his first few competitive games for them.

Defence is crap. Especially with Shaw out at the moment.

Midfield, as people have already said, is absolute dogshit & their forward line is crap as well.

Casemiro & Varane already look spent, Fernandes is still crap 99% of the time but can ping 1 perfect pass per game. Antony & Sancho are flops. Rashford is still a 1 in 3 striker.

They're still littered with shite throughout their squad and I'm still to be convinced that Ten Hag is anything other than a bang average, middle of the road manager.

They'll struggle to scrap for top 4 & ETH will be gone by February is my prediction.

(Although with Webb on their side anything can happen).

[Gerard00]

Their football has been turgid and they're doing well to be on 6 points when realistically should be on 1 but Wolves and Forest let them off the hook along with a dodgy pen thrown in.

Not sure how much Amrabat is going to bring to them - predicting he will be bang average like mount but may offer a bit of endeavour in an otherwise leggy midfield.

[Scottymuser]

That backup keeper looks like a right clown, I’d say they’d struggle if Onana gets an injury…but he ain’t much better.

Well, Onana will be going to the AFCON in January, so they'll have a month without him at that point to see how bad the backup is ...