Topic: Liverpool sign Emre Can

[clinical]

I hate International football. it's boring and just utterly fucking pointless.

[MrBoywunder]

If Can was out but Allen didn't have something up with his knee then it would've been an ok situation. We still have options to play the diamond or 4-3-3 but it's more difficult with both of them out. Hopefully Allen is back for Tuesday or next weekend.

[EmotionalCitrus]

So, the first thing to do here is phone Germany up and ask them why the fuck they let him play on with an injury that's going to keep him out of for 6 weeks. I mean weren't they winning quite easily? What's the fucking point?

It was an U21 game as well, I mean who is fucking arsed about that?

[Fromola]

It was an U21 game as well, I mean who is fucking arsed about that?

I couldn't believe what I was watching when he came back on. It was clear as day that lad had a nasty injury. Sheer negligence.

It'd be bad enough if it was a close game in an important match, but a dead rubber game that Germany were 7-0 up in! Unbelievable.

[Bunter]

Hmm it's been a bit of an inauspicious start for young Can. The injuries really don't bode well for his opportunities in the coming months, seems like he'll be playing catch up (fitness wise) for a while, by then he might be struggling to come by starts.

I'm sure Brendan won't be happy with him jeopardising his fitness like that.

[Vortigen]

Hmm it's been a bit of an inauspicious start for young Can. The injuries really don't bode well for his opportunities in the coming months, seems like he'll be playing catch up (fitness wise) for a while, by then he might be struggling to come by starts.

I'm sure Brendan won't be happy with him jeopardising his fitness like that.

Luckily, he is only 20 and should be under absolutely no pressure. 

[newterp]

Hmm it's been a bit of an inauspicious start for young Can. The injuries really don't bode well for his opportunities in the coming months, seems like he'll be playing catch up (fitness wise) for a while, by then he might be struggling to come by starts.

I'm sure Brendan won't be happy with him jeopardising his fitness like that.

do you really think Can did that on purpose and that his national team coach didn't say go back in there?

[TSC]

Hmm it's been a bit of an inauspicious start for young Can. The injuries really don't bode well for his opportunities in the coming months, seems like he'll be playing catch up (fitness wise) for a while, by then he might be struggling to come by starts.

I'm sure Brendan won't be happy with him jeopardising his fitness like that.

Thought he looked good against Spurs.  No luck this season re injuries even at this early stage.

[rickardinho1]

6 weeks sounds like an exaggeration for a rolled ankle, especially if he was able to continue. I think its probably closer to 3-4 weeks, but Brendan has said 6 weeks to prevent the German FA from calling him up for the October games in 4 weeks time. That's at least what I would do if I were in Brendan's shoes.

Obviously the German doctors can demand to check the player out themselves, but if he doesn't play a game or train much for his club prior to another two meaningless U21 games I doubt they'd kick up a big fuss.

[Frizzo]

Wow, we really don't have it that's bad guys. Best case scenario we have Sturridge back in two weeks, Can back in 3-4, and we have a clean bill of health.

Last season was much much worse, we had 2-3 of our first choice back four out for pretty much the entire season.

[GrkStav]

6 weeks sounds like an exaggeration for a rolled ankle, especially if he was able to continue. I think its probably closer to 3-4 weeks, but Brendan has said 6 weeks to prevent the German FA from calling him up for the October games in 4 weeks time. That's at least what I would do if I were in Brendan's shoes.

Obviously the German doctors can demand to check the player out themselves, but if he doesn't play a game or train much for his club prior to another two meaningless U21 games I doubt they'd kick up a big fuss.

What qualifies a national team game as "meaningful"?

If national teams (senior or U23/U21/whatever) do not play any 'friendlies' they have no chance of "gelling". Greece played no friendlies before opening their Euro 2016 qualification campaign under Ranieri and they looked like crap and lost 0-1 in Piraeus to Romania.

[rickardinho1]

Wow, we really don't have it that's bad guys. Best case scenario we have Sturridge back in two weeks, Can back in 3-4, and we have a clean bill of health.

Last season was much much worse, we had 2-3 of our first choice back four out for pretty much the entire season.

Haha, yeah didn't we play against Everton twice with our entire back 4 out? I seem to recall that we had Kelly-Skrtel-Toure-Cissokho for a couple of games in mid-season, which was a patchwork of 2nd and 3rd stringers. Obviously injuries happen but it would be a big help if our back 4 could remain relatively in tact for most of the season this year as I think it makes a massive difference. You only need to look at how good Everton and Arsenal were defensively before their defenders got injured around Feb-March to see how important it is to have a stable back 4.

What qualifies a national team game as "meaningful"?

If national teams (senior or U23/U21/whatever) do not play any 'friendlies' they have no chance of "gelling". Greece played no friendlies before opening their Euro 2016 qualification campaign under Ranieri and they looked like crap and lost 0-1 in Piraeus to Romania.

Playing 90 minutes against Norway 3 days ahead of a qualifier is pretty meaningless, when 60 minutes would suffice.

Also, forcing a player who is clearly severely injured to play out a game at 6-0 is quite meaningless too, regardless of whether it is a league game or a friendly.

The frustrating thing is that both were avoidable to an extent - sturridge with less game time in the friendly and more recovery, and Can wouldn't have aggravated the injury if he went of immediately.

[Frizzo]

Haha, yeah didn't we play against Everton twice with our entire back 4 out? I seem to recall that we had Kelly-Skrtel-Toure-Cissokho for a couple of games in mid-season, which was a patchwork of 2nd and 3rd stringers. Obviously injuries happen but it would be a big help if our back 4 could remain relatively in tact for most of the season this year as I think it makes a massive difference. You only need to look at how good Everton and Arsenal were defensively before their defenders got injured around Feb-March to see how important it is to have a stable back 4.

It's no coincidence that our defensive record was so poor.

We're not as bad defensively as people think.

[googhead]

6 weeks sounds like an exaggeration for a rolled ankle, especially if he was able to continue. I think its probably closer to 3-4 weeks, but Brendan has said 6 weeks to prevent the German FA from calling him up for the October games in 4 weeks time. That's at least what I would do if I were in Brendan's shoes.

Obviously the German doctors can demand to check the player out themselves, but if he doesn't play a game or train much for his club prior to another two meaningless U21 games I doubt they'd kick up a big fuss.

considering allen, flanno, johnson and skrtel should be easily back before the derby its not that bad

[clinical]

Thank god we kept Lucas.

[paulrazor]

theres a video on the echo site of him against romania. good lord weve signed a monster

[Mamadou]

theres a video on the echo site of him against romania. good lord weve signed a monster

they probably took it from here

[paulrazor]

they probably took it from here

probably. i didnt look through this thread. i stumbled across the echo when i heard he was injured and got 3 assists

[elsewhere]

Any new updates on his ankle injury? Still 6 weeks is the expected time?

[BobPaisley3]

Can't come back soon enough

[RedEire]

Probably get hassle for saying this, but I'd drop stevie for can if he wasn't injured at the mo. Him hendo and Allen in midfield would be a nice balance.

[RainbowFlick]

We've barely seen Can play in the Premier League. Just chucking him in is probably not the answer.

[BobPaisley3]

Probably get hassle for saying this, but I'd drop stevie for can if he wasn't injured at the mo. Him hendo and Allen in midfield would be a nice balance.

I agree. Hendo and Allen together compliment each other brilliantly anyway. Those three pressing with sterling at the tip would have too much for most teams.

[BobPaisley3]

We've barely seen Can play in the Premier League. Just chucking him in is probably not the answer.

He's class and while I agree he's untried, I think he'd have played today if fit, Surely Brendan knows we lack energy in the middle.

[soxfan]

theres a video on the echo site of him against romania. good lord weve signed a monster

Emre Can vs Romania U21

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/8vBNN8T6gmw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/8vBNN8T6gmw</a>

Granted, it's U21 but you can see his potential. Three assists and solid effort. I particularly like his dogged defensive work at 2:24.