Topic: Trump Faceached & Twattered. "Instakarma's gonna getcha....." #bannedontherun

[KillieRed]

There are rumours that she is in discussion with Andrew Gillum, the impressive former mayor of Jacksonville that came close to winning the governorship of Florida. He is black, a very competent politician and he could swing Florida...which would be game over for Trump.

I think that was a great move. I was actually struggling to think of the best fit from the other presidential candidates to run as her VP, but this ticks all the boxes. He`s also meant to be very impressive (i`ve only heard a couple of interviews).

[Giono]

I think that was a great move. I was actually struggling to think of the best fit from the other presidential candidates to run as her VP, but this ticks all the boxes. He`s also meant to be very impressive (i`ve only heard a couple of interviews).

Yup. A decent person, intelligent and says it like it is.

[Ray K]

I think that was a great move. I was actually struggling to think of the best fit from the other presidential candidates to run as her VP, but this ticks all the boxes. He`s also meant to be very impressive (i`ve only heard a couple of interviews).

I was thinking among the other candidates Jay Inslee for the climate change vote (but that might scare the rust belt region) or Cory Booker, but Gillum would be a great choice.  He's really impressive in the interviews I've heard on Pod Save America, and is a great debater.  He would have won the Florida governor race last year only for the usual GOP vote stealing.

[Giono]

I was thinking among the other candidates Jay Inslee for the climate change vote (but that might scare the rust belt region) or Cory Booker, but Gillum would be a great choice.  He's really impressive in the interviews I've heard on Pod Save America, and is a great debater.  He would have won the Florida governor race last year only for the usual GOP vote stealing.

Corey Booker would never be someone else's VP. That man has an ego. Although his girlfriend is Rosario Dawson, so he deserves to have a bit of an ego.

[Iska]

Saw that Warren clip just now. Pure class.

Just reading up on her... In terms of pedigree, her law career, her life, is it fair to say she's the outstanding candidate among the frontrunners?

I’d say so, but I’m not so pleased about that clip.  Good timing and a great punchline, but if she does that in general campaigning it’ll come across as sneering at the guy (hypothetical as he is, he’ll still be a fair proportion of the electorate).  The first half of her answer made her point perfectly.

[Giono]

I’d say so, but I’m not so pleased about that clip.  Good timing and a great punchline, but if she does that in general campaigning it’ll come across as sneering at the guy (hypothetical as he is, he’ll still be a fair proportion of the electorate).  The first half of her answer made her point perfectly.

The full clip goes into her religion and what it instructs her to do.

[kavah]

Art Cullen, editor of the Storm Lake Times in north-west Iowa:

Trump's mounting troubles in Iowa could spell doom for Republicans. Iowa Senator Joni Ernst is facing tough questions on impeachment and trade that have implications far beyond the mid-west

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/13/iowa-trump-joni-ernst-senate-seat-unsteady

[OneTouchFooty]

People who think Trump is going to breeze 2020 ought to be looking at his personal approval ratings in these swing states and see they are in the toilet. Compared to 2016 he’s down pretty much everywhere and by huge margins in a lot of places. Plenty of people see all the broken promises he made to the rustbelt states, he’s done nothing for them and these aren’t all just die-hard evangelists. Democrats get a half decent candidate and they win.

[Gnurglan]

People who think Trump is going to breeze 2020 ought to be looking at his personal approval ratings in these swing states and see they are in the toilet. Compared to 2016 he’s down pretty much everywhere and by huge margins in a lot of places. Plenty of people see all the broken promises he made to the rustbelt states, he’s done nothing for them and these aren’t all just die-hard evangelists. Democrats get a half decent candidate and they win.

It's still a long way to go. I think the Democrats have a decent chance. My worry is Trump will steal all the light and all the headlines once the real campaigning begins. He will talk his usual shite, but he will most likely dictate the agenda.

The next Democratic debate should be interesting. Soon a few candidates will need to drop out.

[Giono]

These debates are terrible. Not one question about climate...


It's a dog show. Pure and simple.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

There are rumours that she is in discussion with Andrew Gillum, the impressive former mayor of Jacksonville that came close to winning the governorship of Florida. He is black, a very competent politician and he could swing Florida...which would be game over for Trump.

I’d say so, but I’m not so pleased about that clip.  Good timing and a great punchline, but if she does that in general campaigning it’ll come across as sneering at the guy (hypothetical as he is, he’ll still be a fair proportion of the electorate).  The first half of her answer made her point perfectly.

Cheers.

[vagabond]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/bernies-policies-are-good-but-how-can-he-appeal-to-the-absolute-worst-people-ever

How it feels to hear talking heads on Bernie's "electability".

[Giono]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/bernies-policies-are-good-but-how-can-he-appeal-to-the-absolute-worst-people-ever

How it feels to hear talking heads on Bernie's "electability".

How many of them predicted Trump....

[vagabond]

Oh look, turns out he's actually the most electable too

https://twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1184867000880959494

So if, you know, you're really serious about beating Trump no matter what...

[Giono]

Those are high numbers for Trump it seems. The GOP Senate seat in Iowa is under threat because Trump's popularity has dropped this year.

[Garrus]

Bizarre why Tulsi Gabbard feels the need to bitch and moan about her party repeatedly on Tucker Carlson's show. Does she really think that's the demographic who are suddenly going to vote for her?

[Something Worse]

Bizarre why Tulsi Gabbard feels the need to bitch and moan about her party repeatedly on Tucker Carlson's show. Does she really think that's the demographic who are suddenly going to vote for her?

Didn't you hear? Hillary had another normal one and accused her of being a Russian operative or some dumb shit.

[Garrus]

Yeah, cue epic meltdown from Tulsi. Still, she's been on Carlson's show a few times recently. Makes no sense. She's better off trying to appeal to voters who might actually vote for her in the primary, not nailed on Trump voters.

[Giono]

She doesn't strike me as being particularly smart. I don't know what she is offering?


She went to town on Harris in a debate. But I don't remember what for...

[Something Worse]

She doesn't strike me as being particularly smart. I don't know what she is offering?


She went to town on Harris in a debate. But I don't remember what for...

Being a hypocrite IIRC

[Giono]

It seems that Buttigieg and Biden want Warren to cost out Medicare for all. They just want her to admit that the costs for individuals will go from insurance payments to taxes they have to pay.


But what happens if either of their gradualist plans are popular? Where will they get the money from? And private rates will still be sky high. As will be pharmaceutical prices. And what happens when the medicare option is popular for the uninsurable rejected by the private insurers? Basically making the gov't plan that serves the most costly patients the safety net for those that are priced out by the private insurers, making the private insurers even more profitable. Once again socializing the costs and privatizing the benefits.

[Giono]

For those curious about Tulsi...

	Bill Browder (@Billbrowder)
	2019-10-20, 3:33 AM Tulsi Gabbard say that she doesn’t control the Russian bots that support her, but she did control the hiring of Chris Cooper, the smear campaigner who was paid by Natalia Veselnitskaya and her Russian backed sponsors to smear me and try to repeal the Magnitsky Act in DC

[Libertine]

Tulsi Gabbard say that she doesn’t control the Russian bots that support her

But the fact that Russian bots DO support here doesn't give her pause for thought?

[KillieRed]

It seems that Buttigieg and Biden want Warren to cost out Medicare for all. They just want her to admit that the costs for individuals will go from insurance payments to taxes they have to pay.


But what happens if either of their gradualist plans are popular? Where will they get the money from? And private rates will still be sky high. As will be pharmaceutical prices. And what happens when the medicare option is popular for the uninsurable rejected by the private insurers? Basically making the gov't plan that serves the most costly patients the safety net for those that are priced out by the private insurers, making the private insurers even more profitable. Once again socializing the costs and privatizing the benefits.

Doesnt Warren just have to bite the bullet & admit that "taxes will go up but will be much less than the cost of health care savings that will be made", and stick to that line? Also, allow private health care to continue for those that want it?

I cant imagine being content to pay 10s of thousands of dollars for child birth or basic procedures, much in the same way i cannot conceive of being happy to live in a country where military style weapons are easily available.

[Caligula?]

Didn't you hear? Hillary had another normal one and accused her of being a Russian operative or some dumb shit.

And she was endorsed by David Duke. Why hasn't he endorsed Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, but instead Tulsi Gabbard? I won't go as far as to say that she's a Russian operative, but something about Gabbard really, really puts me off. There's something very unnerving about her.

[GreatEx]

I've spoken to a few right wing people (human, not bot) who think the Democrats are worse than Satan but are fed up with Trump who are pushing hard for Gabbard. Sounds like she'd have no chance in the primaries and doesn't fit the Democrat agenda, but would probably win the election. I can definitely understand why she'd be targeting Fox, she seems to share a lot of Trump's... I dare not call them policies, let's say "tics"... With a less awful facade.

[OneTouchFooty]

Gabbard doesn’t stand a chance.

[Giono]

Gabbard doesn’t stand a chance.

What's...or who's...keeping her afloat?

[Something Worse]

What's...or who's...keeping her afloat?

[OneTouchFooty]

What's...or who's...keeping her afloat?

She’s polling at 1%. Attacked Clinton to garner a few headlines and says idiotic stuff to keep herself near the conversation.

[Garrus]

Definitely something off with her:

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1186763222193299457

Step down from what?

[Giono]

Tulsi looks like the spokesperson from the NRA.

[Giono]

Another reason to like Warren:


From the Economist Mag:


If Elizabeth Warren's entire plan were enacted, roughly half the stockmarket and private-equity owned firms would be broken up, have some activities prohibited or face heavy regulation

[vagabond]

The test will be how many of these policies she keeps if she gets the nomination and inevitably pivots to the center.

[Giono]

The test will be how many of these policies she keeps if she gets the nomination and inevitably pivots to the center.

She has room. And I think her take is to aim high, then negotiate. We'll see.

[Giono]

Tulsi should get the boot from the Dems. She has just decided to not run for congress again (she was going to lose) . Last night she went on Hannity and and bad mouthed the impeachment enquiry. She cancelled an Iowa event to do it.

They should reject her before she can do it to them.

All she can claim from the 2020 race is Kamala Harris' scalp.

[vagabond]

There's no point, she'll never have enough support to win, the system will take care of it.

[Red Beret]

Thought this was worth sharing, even though its Bill Maher.  To listen to him though youd think Democrats were actively trying to lose.

<a href="https://youtube.com/v/JtPQQjj01kM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://youtube.com/v/JtPQQjj01kM</a>

[Garrus]

Tulsi should get the boot from the Dems. She has just decided to not run for congress again (she was going to lose) . Last night she went on Hannity and and bad mouthed the impeachment enquiry. She cancelled an Iowa event to do it.

They should reject her before she can do it to them.

All she can claim from the 2020 race is Kamala Harris' scalp.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1187544241427214336

Bizarre. Sounds like a Republican!

[Gnurglan]

Another reason to like Warren:


From the Economist Mag:


If Elizabeth Warren's entire plan were enacted, roughly half the stockmarket and private-equity owned firms would be broken up, have some activities prohibited or face heavy regulation

Why would this be good?
I think America's problem is rather that their government live beyond their means.