Author Topic: the double '86.....  (Read 4795 times)

Offline stonewall

  • penalty
  • No new LFC topics
  • Anny Roader
  • ****
  • Posts: 391
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
the double '86.....
« on: July 7, 2008, 12:09:31 pm »
I was talking with a few mates in the pub about this the other night - that Chelsea away was amazing - there was some superb pics in the Echo and Daily Post of the celebrations.. What a moment that was - great goal by King Kenny and then the final against the bitters - people climbiing all over Wembley to get in... Then win... the open top bus.... Ian Rush pissed being interviewed on the telly in an awful knitted jumper on the bus!! I think that was my favourite season so far.... Great times... superb memories... Let's just hope we can re-live them asap... Anyone got any pics of that game at Stamford Bridge? (How shite was that ground at the time!)

Offline lurganboy

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,133
  • Look! It's that bellend from 606!
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #1 on: July 7, 2008, 01:36:13 pm »
83/84 was the best for me. It just got better and better. All the way to Barney Rubble's little hop in the Olympic Stadium.

Souey's last too. Lifting Big Ears - always the best way to go out.

Offline Greg

  • RAWK Statto
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,646
    • http://www.twitter.com/@paintbox_
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #2 on: July 7, 2008, 02:18:06 pm »
Wasn't there, but always remember Beglin's flick, Kenny's chest and boss finish.

Everyone went mental in the cages. And there was a 23 on the scoreboard I think.

Offline Evo1975

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 534
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #3 on: July 7, 2008, 02:18:47 pm »
went to the cup final but not chelasea away i was only 11 though.  always rememeber the FA cup final as me and my cousin were Surrounded by blues, all good and friendly in them days though, great day.
Come on you mighty fucking red men!

Offline tadders

  • No new LFC topics
  • Anny Roader
  • ****
  • Posts: 298
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #4 on: July 7, 2008, 04:24:09 pm »
I was at the Chelsea game away, we had about 12,000 if I remember. Sang our hearts out, in what was traditionally the worst away end in top flight football, like standing in a field.
When it was all over we got escorted back through  London to Euston, felt like we truly were a red army.
No one could get near us, a week later we beat Everton. The marvellous Double.
2 seasons later Dalglish assembled the best team in LFC history...where did it all go wrong.
Pick your best players in the same formation and pass to a red shirt - 18 League titles.
Rotation, resting, zonal marking, dropping off, high tempo,  holding midfielders - ?

Offline Joe_Singh

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,134
  • My idea is always to win trophies, not just games
    • Joe Singh
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #5 on: July 7, 2008, 04:40:42 pm »
2 seasons later Dalglish assembled the best team in LFC history...where did it all go wrong.

A certain manager had a rush of blood to his head and got rid of some of our outstanding players.
What I love about this, and several other of Kenny's press conferences, is that he manages to say something to the effect of  'Shut the fuck up, you fucking helmets and don't fuck with me or my football club or I'll make you eat your own balls', without actually using th

Offline zimmie'5555

  • passenger on an intergalactic spaceship... sometimes wishes he was a woman
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,942
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #6 on: July 7, 2008, 05:03:53 pm »
I was 6 at the time but I remember the Cup final and the run in to the title and the homecoming very well. My first season as a supporter.

Offline stonewall

  • penalty
  • No new LFC topics
  • Anny Roader
  • ****
  • Posts: 391
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #7 on: July 7, 2008, 05:10:50 pm »
Just found this on YouTube  of the cup final in '86 - god Jimmy Hill dosen't half talk some bollocks!! And so patronising! Good intvw with king Kenny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uu0aU9wnhA

Offline FlashingBlade

  • Organised a piss up in a brewery. Ended up in his pants with a KFC bucket. Future MP. Eats only Fish Heads and Tails. Can't spell 'DOMUM'. Now has no balls.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,150
  • From a Shankly Boy to a Klopp Man
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #8 on: July 7, 2008, 09:00:39 pm »
The Final was a terrbile experience for me and me mates , after the game we had to spend all night in my mates uncles pub which was in the new covent garden which was shut during the weekend....it was so lonely..., just the 16 of us ..all we  to do was drink!...and we had to serve ourselves all night !!...oh! and watch a video of the final over and over again, play pool , ..with only a giant pot of scouse for food ...and we didn't get a wink of sleep all night... ..awful!

Offline CHOPPER

  • Bad Tranny with a Chopper. Hello John gotta new Mitre? I'm Jim Davidson in disguise. Undercover Cop (Grammar Division). Does Louis Spence. Well. A giga-c*nt worth of nothing in particular. Hodgson apologist. Astronomical cock.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 51,547
  • Super Title: Not Arsed
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #9 on: July 7, 2008, 09:05:04 pm »
The Final was a terrbile experience for me and me mates , after the game we had to spend all night in my mates uncles pub which was in the new covent garden which was shut during the weekend....it was so lonely..., just the 16 of us ..all we  to do was drink!...and we had to serve ourselves all night !!...oh! and watch a video of the final over and over again, play pool , ..with only a giant pot of scouse for food ...and we didn't get a wink of sleep all night... ..awful!

That sounds terrible ! , wish i was there  ;D
@ Veinticinco de Mayo The way you talk to other users on this forum is something you should be ashamed of as someone who is suppose to be representing the site.
Martin Kenneth Wild - Part of a family

Offline TSC

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 23,365
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #10 on: July 7, 2008, 09:08:06 pm »
Never made the final but went to Chelsea.  Being spat at walking along the Kings Rd made the win all the more satisfying.

Offline bignred84

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 591
  • We all Live in a Red and White Upper Centenary
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #11 on: July 7, 2008, 09:17:50 pm »
Anyone got any pics of that game at Stamford Bridge? (How shite was that ground at the time!)
what do you mean "at the time" 22 years on not much has changed

its still shite now

Offline Shanks1965

  • SOS member 981
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,705
  • 96 friends who we all miss...
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #12 on: July 7, 2008, 10:08:04 pm »
The Final was a terrbile experience for me and me mates , after the game we had to spend all night in my mates uncles pub which was in the new covent garden which was shut during the weekend....it was so lonely..., just the 16 of us ..all we  to do was drink!...and we had to serve ourselves all night !!...oh! and watch a video of the final over and over again, play pool , ..with only a giant pot of scouse for food ...and we didn't get a wink of sleep all night... ..awful!
Poor thing. Must have spoiled your whole weekend.
Seen more titles than he can remember...

Online oojason

  • The Official RAWK Audio Visual King
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 16,837
  • The Awkward Squad
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2021, 01:23:08 pm »
.
The 1985/86 Season - The Double



Some info and audio / video highlights from The Double winning season...






LFCHistory.net Season Info Page for 1985/86 Matches : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Games/27

LiverWeb.org Season Info Page for 1985/86 : https://web.archive.org/web/20110714090710/http://www.liverweb.org.uk/season.asp?season=198586

Wikipedia Page for Liverpool's 1985/86 Season : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985%E2%80%9386_Liverpool_F.C._season





Match Highlights...



'Everton 2 Liverpool 3' - 21st September, 1985; 10 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/snr73y5D_lY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/snr73y5D_lY</a>



'Manchester United 1 Liverpool 1' - 19th October, 1985; 17 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/5l2STHuDU3w" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/5l2STHuDU3w</a>



'Liverpool 2 Manchester United 1 League Cup' - 26th November, 1985; 14 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/wSfMTK5XXU8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/wSfMTK5XXU8</a>



'Watford 2 Liverpool 3' - 12th January, 1986; 15 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/OVg5q4k2e10" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/OVg5q4k2e10</a>



'Liverpool 1 Manchester United 1' - 9th February, 1986; 23 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nJBr6w39Cx4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nJBr6w39Cx4</a>



'Tottenham Hotspur 1 Liverpool 2' - 2nd March, 1986; 1 minute:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/UpfUCsM9dAM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/UpfUCsM9dAM</a>



'Liverpool 2 Manchester City 0' - 31st March, 1986; 22 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/8UFmsmfkQVE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/8UFmsmfkQVE</a>



'Luton 0 Liverpool 1' - 16th April, 1986; 1 minute:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/JojrU5CRhNI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/JojrU5CRhNI</a>



'West Brom 1 Liverpool 2' 19th April, 1986; 1 minute:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/94TdYPiKe34" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/94TdYPiKe34</a>



'Liverpool 5 Birmingham City 0' - 26th April, 1986; 12 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/9A5Mj2GDw2E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/9A5Mj2GDw2E</a>



'Leicester City v Liverpool' - 30th April, 1986; 9 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/51fudlQvW6Q" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/51fudlQvW6Q</a>



'Leicester 0 Liverpool 2 / Oxford 1 Everton 0 : 30/04/1986' - The night the 1985/86 league title race swung from Blue... to Red:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/6bA4NOeuZXE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/6bA4NOeuZXE</a>

^ LFCHistory.net Match Info Page: www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1529



'Oxford United 1 Everton 0 : 30th April 1986' - 15 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/JymQYijeTmc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/JymQYijeTmc</a>



'Chelsea 0 Liverpool 1' - 3rd May, 1986; 29 minutes:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/q3t-07vUWmk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/q3t-07vUWmk</a>



'03/05/1986 Chelsea v Liverpool' - 3 minute highlights:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/iEF_LpHtPQQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/iEF_LpHtPQQ</a>









^ winning the League Title with a 1-0 away win at Chelsea on the last day of the league season.







Some youtube playlists for matches from Liverpool's 1985/86 season...



Dave Waller's youtube video playlist for the 1985/86 season:-

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3KiSUH0twfy2vga594YmQrDA-HmSvgh



Paul Collins' youtube video playlist for the 1985/86 season:-

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7Gsgso3XL2BMGU0-UxRnfMm



idamaria7's youtube video playlist for the 1985/86 season:-

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXt6NomE1dYPbSa7KiVHSUKu






Road To Wembley / Road to the The Final...


3rd Round : Norwich City : home : 5-0 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/ListGamesByType/2

4th Round : Chelsea : away : 2-1 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1507

5th Round : York City : away : 1-1 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1512
5th Round Replay : York City : home : 3-1 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1513

6th Round : Watford : home : 0-0 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1518
6th Round Replay : Watford : away : 2-1 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1520

Semi-Final : Southampton : away (White Hart Lane) : 2-0 : www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1524




3rd Round: vs Norwich...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/XWCIWI3tgZc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/XWCIWI3tgZc</a>



4th Round: vs Chelsea...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/NsXfRIFye5g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/NsXfRIFye5g</a>



5th Round: vs York City...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KlTxmNlwR0U" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KlTxmNlwR0U</a>


5th Round Replay: vs York City... (no footage? Hansen & Lawrenson on the two FA Cup matches vs York City)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/brcMA-_g6wk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/brcMA-_g6wk</a>



6th Round: vs Watford...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/j8AYzckUKFs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/j8AYzckUKFs</a>


6th Round Replay: vs Watford...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/qNvGD-aorVc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/qNvGD-aorVc</a>



Semi-Final: vs Southampton... (played at White Hart Lane)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/10jyLKxz-YI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/10jyLKxz-YI</a>








The 1986 FA Cup Final...







LFC XI: Grobbelaar, Nicol, Lawrenson, Hansen, Beglin, Johnston, Molby, MacDonald, Whelan, Dalglish, Rush.
Subs: McMahon.

LFCHistory.net Match Info page: www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/Game/1532



elmswood48's youtube video playlist for the 1986 FA Cup Final (near-on the whole day of build-up - the match - and also post-match):-

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGmb7UFCm4kfxzwHHNvmk4CeJEE0cXMVJ



'Liverpool 3-1 Everton : 1986 FA Cup Final' - 10 minute highlights:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/LMIE-fIaI1k" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/LMIE-fIaI1k</a>



'25 minute highlights':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/EXUTR1OWsgE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/EXUTR1OWsgE</a>



'full match replay':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/csBr_JtiA0U" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/csBr_JtiA0U</a>



'Liverpool Everton 1986 Final - Full Time celebrations and interviews' - 28 mins:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/m8WFBljOFa4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/m8WFBljOFa4</a>









Documentaries & Specials...



'Watch free: 'On the March with Kenny's Army'' - 90 minute documentary on the 1985/86 Season - at LiverpoolFC.com:-



click here - www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/393839-watch-free-on-the-march-with-kenny-s-army

or here... Pt1: www.dailymotion.com/video/x60vah8 . Pt2: www.dailymotion.com/video/x60w6cr . Pt3: www.dailymotion.com/video/x60ysva



'Liverpool FC 1985/86' (44 minute video by the superb Dave Waller; read the video blurb for more info):-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/lwy6dDknRWU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/lwy6dDknRWU</a>



'Two Tribes: How Football Saved a City | The latest in BT Sport's film series' - 30 second advert /trailer:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/4IclkUGJ7lQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/4IclkUGJ7lQ</a>

^ if I can find a link to the whole thing I'll put it up here later... : BT Subscribers: www.bt.com/sport/watch/video/catch-up/2019/march/bt-sport-films-two-tribes

More info and related videos : www.bt.com/sport/football/features/two-tribes-explores-how-football-gave-the-city-of-liverpool-hope



'Liverpool double winners 1986 - assorted clips' - 26 minutes:-





'Kenny - Kenny Dalglish (1986)' (53 mins):-

www.dailymotion.com/video/xp246r



'Match of the 80s - 1985/86' - 49 minute video:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/drmpAYIxcRw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/drmpAYIxcRw</a>







Some other RAWK threads on The Double...


'RAWK Advent Calendar #09: Chelsea 0 v 1 Liverpool 3rd May 1986' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=310171
'On this Day - 10th May 1986' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=257877
'10 May 1986' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=51329
'30 years on from The Double' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=327661
'1986 - "When Dalglish Did the Double"' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=236161

'King Kenny Documentary from 1986 (For the young arses)' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=270954
'Dalglish plans '86 final reunion' (2005) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=89657
'derby 85/86' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=100261
'On the March with Kenny's Army, Story of 85-86 Double Season' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=283071
'Our 85-86 Season on 'Match of the Eighties' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=228840

'1986 - The Double is Sealed - FA Cup' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=25121
'FA Cup Final 1986 - 20 Years On' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=111260
'20 Years Ago Today - Liverpool 3 Everton 1 (FA Cup Final 1986)' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=121337
'20 years on from the double run in' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=116894
'Wembley 1986' - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=37712







Some online articles and information on the 1985/86 Season...


'King Kenny leads Liverpool to prestigious double in debut season as player-manager' - www.thisisanfield.com/2020/04/liverpool-win-double-1986

'Remembering King Kenny's domestic double at Liverpool, 30 years on' - www.fourfourtwo.com/features/remembering-king-kennys-domestic-double-liverpool-30-years

'We are the Champions: 1985-86 – Liverpool' - https://gameofthepeople.com/2017/10/26/we-are-the-champions-1985-86-liverpool

'When Dalglish did the Double' (BBC) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7827167.stm

'Drinks with Craig Johnston' (with content on '85/86) - www.ftbl.com.au/news/drinks-with-craig-johnston-421554/page

'Dalglish defies the doubters and rebuilds Liverpool' - www.thisisanfield.com/2019/06/on-the-march-with-kennys-army-how-dalglish-defied-the-doubters-rebuilt-liverpool-in-1985-86

''Liverpool by the Numbers – 1985-86' (team selections for each match that season) - https://museumofjerseys.com/2021/02/17/liverpool-by-numbers-1985-86

'The forgotten story of ... the 1985-86 First Division season' - www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2008/nov/27/scott-murray-85-86-football-season

'The Incredible Season Of 1985/86' - https://footballwhispers.com/blog/the-season-of-198586

'1985-86: The Five-Way Title Race' - https://taleoftwohalves.uk/featured/1985-86-five-way-title-race

'When Liverpool came from 5th after 25 games to win the league title' - www.talksport.com/football/116373/when-liverpool-came-fifth-after-25-games-win-league-title-14021079274

'From TV blackout to a Premier League broadcasting fortune' (general BBC article on the 1985/86 tv blackout) - www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33149689

'When Saturday Comes: 1985/86 Season' - www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/23-Season-in-brief/1580-division-1-1985-86

'Kop 10 moments from the 1985-86 double season' - www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/223747-kop-10-moments-from-the-1985-86-double-season

'Gallery: We salute the double winners 30 years on' - www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/223785-gallery-we-salute-the-double-winners-30-years-on

'Vintage photographs of Kenny Dalglish's men sealing the first leg of the 1986 Double' - www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chelsea-v-liverpool-fc-vintage-3329388

The Anfield Wrap's 4-part 'That's What We Call History' pieces on 1985/86 - www.theanfieldwrap.com/2019/06/all-what-we-call-history-episodes

'Two Tribes: Tony Evans' story of the 1985/86 season' - www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-tribes-tony-evans-story-14448136

'Tony Evans & Two Tribes: Liverpool, Everton and a City on the Brink | Tifo Football Podcast' (50 mins) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy1jjvqv-s0

'On The March With Kenny's Army' (an article on the book by Gary Shaw and Mike Nevin)  - www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/446












^ 1986/87 team photo - with trophies won in the 1985/86 Season.






----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------






• A mini-index of RAWK's 'Liverpool Audio / Video thread' content info for years gone by, recent times, Season Reviews, Cup Final victories - Domestic, European, and World, etc:-


www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345769.msg17787576#msg17787576 & www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=112969.0


1989/90 : 1987/88 : 1985/86 : 1983/84 : Shankly : Paisley : Fagan : Kenny : Houllier : Rafa : Barnes : Hansen : Souness : Rush : Clem : Ray : Memorable YNWAs.








The 'Some useful info for following the football + TV, Streams, and Highlights etc' thread - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345769.0

« Last Edit: March 10, 2022, 01:59:16 am by oojason »
.
Some 'Useful Info' for following the football + TV, Streams, Highlights & Replays etc - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345769

A mini-index of RAWK's 'Liverpool Audio / Video thread' content over the years; & more - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345769.msg17787576#msg17787576

Offline Medellin

  • Self-confessed daft meff.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,643
  • Sound
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2021, 01:37:09 pm »
Of all the fucking brilliant games we have enjoyed over the years..that week of football won't ever be beaten in my time.
Fuck knows how many of us were in the bridge that afternoon, more than estimates no doubt.
The FA cup doesn't hold the value these days to what it once was..the win over Everton who were very good at the time too, the whole weekend that surrounded the game we spent in London, unbelievable.
If I was ever granted a wish for a weeks worth of football to revisit..that would be it.
Support the team,Trust & Believe.

Offline Oldmanmick

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 590
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2021, 06:43:41 pm »
The Final was a terrbile experience for me and me mates , after the game we had to spend all night in my mates uncles pub which was in the new covent garden which was shut during the weekend....it was so lonely..., just the 16 of us ..all we  to do was drink!...and we had to serve ourselves all night !!...oh! and watch a video of the final over and over again, play pool , ..with only a giant pot of scouse for food ...and we didn't get a wink of sleep all night... ..awful!

The pitfalls of being a Liverpool supporter back then. It was a cross we all had to bear.

Offline Oldmanmick

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 590
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2021, 06:57:41 pm »
Wasn't at the final or at Chelsea but was at the Leicester match away next to last game of the season. Everton were playing the same night away to Oxford who were fighting relegation. Everton were top & in the driving seat. A victory away to very poor opposition seemed a given. We scored two early goals at Filbert Street & effectively killed the game off well before half-time. Half time at Oxford & it was 0-0, loads of people had radios up against their ears following the match down there. Then with 10 minutes or so to go Oxford amazingly took the lead. There were jubilant shouts from some of our fans as the word spread like wildfire that we were now in the driving seat. "Oxford 1 Everton 0 Hallelujah" rang around the Liverpool end. Some of the Liverpool players looked at us & soon became aware of the significance of what was happening at The Manor Ground. They were giving each other clenched fists as if to say : ' C'mon, lets do this'. Our match was pretty boring as a spectacle but it's one that stands in the memory especially considering we weren't even in the race a few months earlier.

Online Kenny's Jacket

  • Kenny's Vegan Jacket Potato. Talks more sense than me.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,358
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2021, 07:11:21 pm »
my first proper memory was Roma 84, but this is the season when I started going aged 8

Was in the paddock for that Molby Goal, great view, great memories


Was bemused by the 'look after ye car for 50p mister' as the lad was never there at the end of the game


after the semi final loss to QPR the car was broken into and my dad explained some stuff

was a horrible journey home that, who scores two own goals

My first and only visit to Goodison, how can they be so good with such a shit stadium, hated it despite the win




Offline John C

  • RAWK Staff
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 38,590
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2021, 07:24:28 pm »
Doing a double still isn't appreciated sufficiently imo. It was a fantastic achievement for Kenny, loved it all.

Offline Red Berry

  • Wants to sit in the Lobster Pot. Fat-fingered. Key. Boa. Rd. Kille. R. tonunlick! Soggy Knickers King.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 42,386
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2021, 07:28:36 pm »
Back when winning multiple big competitions in a season actually meant something.  These days fans will sneer if you "only" win the league or the CL.
I don't always visit Lobster Pot.  But when I do. I sit.

Popcorn's Art

Offline TSC

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 23,365
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2021, 07:30:59 pm »
Was behind the goal in the Chelsea away to win the title.  Memories of that day;  on the footie special from lime street with plenty of ale flowing.  Getting spat on by nice Chelsea fans walking up the Kings road.  The explosion of noise in our end when Dalglish scored.  From that point onwards much nail biting as minutes seemed like hours.  Getting the return footie special back to lime street.  The crowd exiting the train at Lime street breaking into song ‘hand it over Everton’.

Offline John C

  • RAWK Staff
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 38,590
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2021, 07:42:00 pm »
Back when winning multiple big competitions in a season actually meant something.  These days fans will sneer if you "only" win the league or the CL.
Or even if you only win the FA Cup. It's ridiculously underrated even on this site.
Kenny grabbing them both in his first season as manager was a dream at the time. Either would have done me to see Kenny get success.

Offline Red Berry

  • Wants to sit in the Lobster Pot. Fat-fingered. Key. Boa. Rd. Kille. R. tonunlick! Soggy Knickers King.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 42,386
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2021, 07:50:36 pm »
Or even if you only win the FA Cup. It's ridiculously underrated even on this site.
Kenny grabbing them both in his first season as manager was a dream at the time. Either would have done me to see Kenny get success.

Indeed.  It's why I value what Jurgen has given us.  I wish we could have a proper crack at the cups, but we can't afford to keep quality players young players hanging around when they're better off out on loan honing their skills, or maintain enough top dollar players to battle on so many fronts without fretting over burnout or injury.

That year gave us some magical memories, and Jurgen helped me reconnect with them.
I don't always visit Lobster Pot.  But when I do. I sit.

Popcorn's Art

Offline Nitramdorf

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,161
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2021, 08:01:29 pm »
Thanks as ever Jason  :thumbup

God I was happy after the cup final win. I was devastated in 1977 and it seemed an eternity till we won it. Now those 9 years is roughly equivalent to a fortnight.

In the team photo at the top of Jason's post, can anyone tell me who is that between Brucie and Kevin McDonald? I dont recognise him at all.

Online Jookie

  • Ruptures, then repairs the tears
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,089
  • Muted Al 666's posts for my own sanity
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2021, 08:02:10 pm »
my first proper memory was Roma 84, but this is the season when I started going aged 8

Was in the paddock for that Molby Goal, great view, great memories


Was bemused by the 'look after ye car for 50p mister' as the lad was never there at the end of the game


after the semi final loss to QPR the car was broken into and my dad explained some stuff

was a horrible journey home that, who scores two own goals

My first and only visit to Goodison, how can they be so good with such a shit stadium, hated it despite the win


Was my 1st season too. At least as a regular match goer. I would have been 6 at the start of the season. Mad to think I'd been in the Kop with my Dad the season before when I must have been 5 or 6!

I'll be honest I can't remember a lot about the start of this season but still remember the end. Distinct memories are not all of games we won. Everton beating us 2-0 at home sticks out. Probably because it felt like the league was gone. The QPR League Cup semi-final defeat sticks out too. After that it's mainly a couple of the wallopings we gave teams at home near the end of the season. Can remember the day of the Chelsea game but being 7 I didn't go. Chelsea wasn't the nicest away to go to and I think this was 1 season removed from my old man going to the infamous semi finals against United at Goodison and Maine Road. Think that probably put him off taking a 7 year old to a potentially volatile away.

FA Cup final is still pretty vivid in my mind. Remember getting picked up in the morning, stopping a Watford Gap services. Pub before the game and then being sat by a bluenose in the ground. Think I missed all the Liverpool goals due to my height but remember being amazed at being able to watch them on the concourse on a TV after the game.

That 1986 cup final is still probably my best memory of Wembley. Been a few times since and I don't think I've seen us win. Seen us win in The Millennium so I know I'm not an unlucky charm!
I think Jookie might just be the best fisherman on this thread.

Offline Statto Red

  • Hung like a sperm whale but only around the middle. Proud owner of a couple of spare arms, although is pits pong like the bins, not very appeeling......
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 19,388
  • Kloppite
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2021, 08:35:04 pm »
Yeah, Everton winning the derby 2-0, felt like the title was done, us being 8 points behind the bitters at the time with 12 league matches left, big turning point came a few weeks later when Southall done his ligaments in in an international & was out for the season, the Ev's replacement keeper was decent enough but not in the same league that Southall was.

 Everton lost at Luton in the run in[not sure if Luton had that plastic pitch then, i know they did the following season] which was crucial too, that was a week after a 1-1 home draw vs Chelsea, but Everton still had a game in hand, [which happened to be West Ham at home & West Ham too could have won the title too had we lost at Chelsea], which was played on the Monday after we played Chelsea.

Quite amusing Everton were runners up to us that season in league & FA cup. ;D

Online duvva

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,166
  • LFC Quiz Rivals Most Hated
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2021, 09:33:18 pm »
Doing a double still isn't appreciated sufficiently imo. It was a fantastic achievement for Kenny, loved it all.
I think the double was an amazing achievement back then. I think the reason it seems less so now is that we were only the third team in the 20th century at the time to do it. Now it has been completed a lot more frequently in a short space of time while the FA Cup in many peoples eyes has reduced in importance.

But I’ll fuckin love it when we do it again this season 😉
“ When I see the Bill Shankly statue, I look at the sentiment on the base. It says: 'He made the people happy’. Well now the modern Liverpool is making the fans and the city happy. And that makes me so proud." - Gerard Houllier

Online Crosby Nick

  • is a cushy number for the Plod who work in this largely crime free suburb. Ate two, Brucey. Thread locker extraordinaire. Might answer to Nick CRoxy. Imaginary cock prognosticator. Has experience of being a bit of a floating twat. Well drilled at the back
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 97,188
  • Poultry in Motion
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2021, 09:46:27 pm »
I’d been taken twice the season before (my first games at Anfield) and we’d lost twice! Unheard of and my dad thought I was a jinx.

Took me to see us play Birmingham around Easter 86 and we win 5-0 with a Gary Gillespie hat trick and my stay of execution has been lifted ever since!

Online Philipm20

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Kopite
  • ******
  • Posts: 684
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2021, 09:58:09 pm »
Thanks as ever Jason  :thumbup

God I was happy after the cup final win. I was devastated in 1977 and it seemed an eternity till we won it. Now those 9 years is roughly equivalent to a fortnight.

In the team photo at the top of Jason's post, can anyone tell me who is that between Brucie and Kevin McDonald? I dont recognise him at all.

John McGregor https://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/494

Offline bigbonedrawky

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,114
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2021, 10:39:23 pm »

Blast from the past I had this poster on bedroom wall for years but like Nitramdorf I still couldn't name John Mcgregor  :D

Offline kesey

  • Hippy - Scally - Taoist - Rafiki - Dad - Trichotomist. Hill Climber, David Cassidy Fan Club
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,181
  • Truth , Love and Simplicity ♡
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2021, 12:54:34 am »
Leicestershire FC away was a jolly old fixture that season .
He who sees himself in all beings and all beings in himself loses all fear.

- The Upanishads.

The heart knows the way. Run in that direction

- Rumi

Offline Al 666

  • "I haven't got a clue." 23/03/2020......Mo Money, Mo Problems to invent. Number 1 is Carragher. Number 2 is Carragher. Number 3 is Carragher. Number 4 is Carragher. Likes to play God in his spare time.
  • Campaigns
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 25,934
  • JFT 97
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2021, 01:01:03 am »
Leicestershire FC away was a jolly old fixture that season .

The conga on the M1 when we ended up stuck in a traffic jam with the bitters on their way back from Oxford.
One thing does need to be said: in the post-Benitez era, there was media-led clamour (but also some politicking going on at the club) to make the club more English; the idea being that the club had lost the very essence of what it means to be ‘Liverpool’. Guillem Ballague 18/11/10

Offline Al 666

  • "I haven't got a clue." 23/03/2020......Mo Money, Mo Problems to invent. Number 1 is Carragher. Number 2 is Carragher. Number 3 is Carragher. Number 4 is Carragher. Likes to play God in his spare time.
  • Campaigns
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 25,934
  • JFT 97
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2021, 01:04:47 am »
Yeah, Everton winning the derby 2-0, felt like the title was done, us being 8 points behind the bitters at the time with 12 league matches left, big turning point came a few weeks later when Southall done his ligaments in in an international & was out for the season, the Ev's replacement keeper was decent enough but not in the same league that Southall was.

 Everton lost at Luton in the run in[not sure if Luton had that plastic pitch then, i know they did the following season] which was crucial too, that was a week after a 1-1 home draw vs Chelsea, but Everton still had a game in hand, [which happened to be West Ham at home & West Ham too could have won the title too had we lost at Chelsea], which was played on the Monday after we played Chelsea.

Quite amusing Everton were runners up to us that season in league & FA cup. ;D

The best part of Everton finishing runners up in both competitions is that was the year they were supposedly nailed on to win the European Cup. If it wasn't for Heysel.

According to the bitter quarter of the City they were the best team in Europe but managed to win nothing that season. Everton that.
One thing does need to be said: in the post-Benitez era, there was media-led clamour (but also some politicking going on at the club) to make the club more English; the idea being that the club had lost the very essence of what it means to be ‘Liverpool’. Guillem Ballague 18/11/10

Offline Nitramdorf

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,161
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2021, 07:50:30 am »

Online Yorkykopite

  • Misses Danny Boy with a passion. Phil's Official Biographer, dontcherknow...it's all true. Honestly.
  • RAWK Writer
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 30,407
  • The first five yards........
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2021, 05:01:42 pm »
The conga on the M1 when we ended up stuck in a traffic jam with the bitters on their way back from Oxford.

I was at the Manor Ground that night. I was meant to be at Filbert Street but had no chance of making kick off and decided I had to grit my teeth, walk up Headington Hill, and watch Oxford v Everton. It was an onslaught from the 1st minute to the 86th, or whenever it was Oxford improbably scored. How Everton didn't win that game I do not know. But the joy of being there to see them somehow lose, knowing from their transistors that the Reds were coasting it at Leicester.
"If you want the world to love you don't discuss Middle Eastern politics" Saul Bellow.

Offline 12C

  • aka 54F
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,434
  • “The Ribbons are Red”
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2021, 08:07:50 pm »
Wasn't at the final or at Chelsea but was at the Leicester match away next to last game of the season. Everton were playing the same night away to Oxford who were fighting relegation. Everton were top & in the driving seat. A victory away to very poor opposition seemed a given. We scored two early goals at Filbert Street & effectively killed the game off well before half-time. Half time at Oxford & it was 0-0, loads of people had radios up against their ears following the match down there. Then with 10 minutes or so to go Oxford amazingly took the lead. There were jubilant shouts from some of our fans as the word spread like wildfire that we were now in the driving seat. "Oxford 1 Everton 0 Hallelujah" rang around the Liverpool end. Some of the Liverpool players looked at us & soon became aware of the significance of what was happening at The Manor Ground. They were giving each other clenched fists as if to say : ' C'mon, lets do this'. Our match was pretty boring as a spectacle but it's one that stands in the memory especially considering we weren't even in the race a few months earlier.

Was behind the goal against Leicester.
Seemed like Whelan’s lob would never come down and he was celebrating whilst it was still going up.
The coach home was amazing. Some lad disconnected the tele from the video machine and stuck his finger in the aerial. Managed to pick up snowy  highlights until we hit Birmingham and went under a bridge (Spaghetti Jn) just as Whelan hit the winner and the picture went. It didn’t matter the bus went mad all over again.

"I want to build a team that's invincible, so that they have to send a team from bloody Mars to beat us."

Offline kesey

  • Hippy - Scally - Taoist - Rafiki - Dad - Trichotomist. Hill Climber, David Cassidy Fan Club
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,181
  • Truth , Love and Simplicity ♡
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2021, 10:06:33 pm »
Was behind the goal against Leicester.
Seemed like Whelan’s lob would never come down and he was celebrating whilst it was still going up.
The coach home was amazing. Some lad disconnected the tele from the video machine and stuck his finger in the aerial. Managed to pick up snowy  highlights until we hit Birmingham and went under a bridge (Spaghetti Jn) just as Whelan hit the winner and the picture went. It didn’t matter the bus went mad all over again.



Oxford one , Everton nil hallajuliaaaaah ....    :wave

Me and our kid got home from school and me Dad turns up and goes we're going and me Ma ' ends up going jumping in with us . We were behind the goal in the Leicester end and hand on heart that is the only time we've all be sat next to eachother at the match .



He who sees himself in all beings and all beings in himself loses all fear.

- The Upanishads.

The heart knows the way. Run in that direction

- Rumi

Offline kesey

  • Hippy - Scally - Taoist - Rafiki - Dad - Trichotomist. Hill Climber, David Cassidy Fan Club
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,181
  • Truth , Love and Simplicity ♡
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2021, 10:20:08 pm »
These old footie threads on here recently are bringing up memories for me so nice one.
He who sees himself in all beings and all beings in himself loses all fear.

- The Upanishads.

The heart knows the way. Run in that direction

- Rumi

Offline John C

  • RAWK Staff
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 38,590
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2021, 11:35:49 pm »
These old footie threads on here recently are bringing up memories for me so nice one.
The footy threads are recent, it's you that's old Kesey lad :)

Offline Al 666

  • "I haven't got a clue." 23/03/2020......Mo Money, Mo Problems to invent. Number 1 is Carragher. Number 2 is Carragher. Number 3 is Carragher. Number 4 is Carragher. Likes to play God in his spare time.
  • Campaigns
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 25,934
  • JFT 97
Re: the double '86.....
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2021, 12:22:32 pm »
I was at the Manor Ground that night. I was meant to be at Filbert Street but had no chance of making kick off and decided I had to grit my teeth, walk up Headington Hill, and watch Oxford v Everton. It was an onslaught from the 1st minute to the 86th, or whenever it was Oxford improbably scored. How Everton didn't win that game I do not know. But the joy of being there to see them somehow lose, knowing from their transistors that the Reds were coasting it at Leicester.

I honestly think it was the two weeks at the end of that season that created the hatred in Blues.

They were cruising to the title with only Oxford and Southampton to play. They blew it and then celebrated like mad on the final day when they erroneously though Chelsea had took the lead against Liverpool. A couple of minutes of mad celebrations followed by silence when they found out it was Liverpool who had in fact taken the lead.

Then to top it off they took the lead in the Cup final only to get gubbed 3-1.

They saw their double turn in to our double. Everton that.
One thing does need to be said: in the post-Benitez era, there was media-led clamour (but also some politicking going on at the club) to make the club more English; the idea being that the club had lost the very essence of what it means to be ‘Liverpool’. Guillem Ballague 18/11/10