Topic: Anfield Road Extension - Construction work resumed on 12th September 2023.

[Eeyore]

Yeah. So?

We were actually talking about the economics of redeveloping the SKD, the cost of which might be light years away from standing on the kop.

I think you do it deliberately.

No you did your usual thing and jumped all over someone who raised the spectre of needing improved public transport to compensate for increased attendance.

Your answer is the increased use of cars. That simply isn't viable.

[CraigDS]

Your answer is the increased use of cars.

You might want to reread what he wrote before you (carry on)...

No you did your usual thing and jumped all over someone

[TepidT2O]

New Mister Drone video- all front spans connected, more roof cladding and looks like all the terracing done at the Main Stand end

https://youtu.be/h26lPWQ3W-c

Towards the end he’s looking to see if it’s glass going in.  It’s nit, it’s insulated cladding.  If you look at the plans that’s going to have brick and a huge liver bird over it with a narrow bit of glass either side. You can even see the gap in the cladding on the left.


(No one gives a fuck about the cars lads, start a different thread.  Construction porn only on here)

[Eeyore]

You might want to reread what he wrote before you (carry on)...

I have read what he said.

He has stated that people need to get the train in, whilst stating that getting the train in is impossible because the train line is the branch line that he states is hideously expensive.

He stated that people should drive in and then park a mile away from the ground and then walk. Who in their right mind is going to invest tens of millions in infrastructure costs for a car park with charging points that then requires a mile walk to the ground for a sport that takes place in the winter.

He then talks about buses. This is great until you realise that buses for sporting events need to be subsidised. We have a council that struggles to pay the bills and then wants buses on demand when an EV bus costs around 500k a pop.

[CraigDS]

You could have just, for once, said you read it wrong Al but no worries.

[Eeyore]

You could have just, for once, said you read it wrong Al but no worries.

I didn't read it wrong Peter was replying to a post about needing public infrastructure improvements.

Transport is not the issue. There is a Traffic Management Plan to satisfy any demand. It wouldn't involve Bootle branches or trams or highways in the sky. It would involve management. Clue's in the name.

What Peter basically said was that things were okay. Without realising that there are massive changes afoot. He thinks it just needs better management. Bless.

[Alan_X]

Spot on, but if you offered each of those home owners £500k for their property and offered to build them new homes a few hundred yards away on the piece of land originally set aside for the hotel the actual cost to the club is not huge. Only 62 homes on Skerries and the side of Wylva that a replica main stand would need. Capacity would rise to 69,000 overall and all 3 tiers would have much better leg room and excellent facilities so a win win for all.  You’re talking just £50-60m to buy the 3 rows of houses and build new homes for each homeowner plus they would all be £500k better off.  How many people do we honestly think would say no to that? 

So many things wrong with that. You can't do a 'replica Main Stand' on that side. The Main Stand added 8,000 seats by retaining the old stand as the lower tier. essentially the SKD is the same model as the Main Stand - using the old Kemlyn as the lower tier and adding hospitality and an upper tier.

You'd have to demolish the Upper SKD and Boxes (about 5,000 seats) to redevelop which would limit the additional capacity to half what you're suggesting. And a complete rebuild at modern seat spacing would probably need Skerries Road just to achieve the same capacity we have now. 

[Eeyore]

So many things wrong with that. You can't do a 'replica Main Stand' on that side. The Main Stand added 8,000 seats by retaining the old stand as the lower tier. essentially the SKD is the same model as the Main Stand - using the old Kemlyn as the lower tier and adding hospitality and an upper tier.

You'd have to demolish the Upper SKD and Boxes (about 5,000 seats) to redevelop which would limit the additional capacity to half what you're suggesting. And a complete rebuild at modern seat spacing would probably need Skerries Road just to achieve the same capacity we have now. 

Without safe standing increasing attendances then within the footprint then for me, we are at the sweet spot. We also have to consider the appalling transport links to Anfield that are extremely unlikely to improve.

Personally, I think an extended ARE is about the limits of what is possible.   

[Alan_X]

Towards the end he’s looking to see if it’s glass going in.  It’s nit, it’s insulated cladding.  If you look at the plans that’s going to have brick and a huge liver bird over it with a narrow bit of glass either side. You can even see the gap in the cladding on the left.


(No one gives a fuck about the cars lads, start a different thread.  Construction porn only on here)

Correct  - you can see the Metsec framing clearly with insulated panels fixed to it.

And they probably haven't finished the pre-cast seating to allow them to crane things in - there's a big opening in the slab to drop things through.

[Eeyore]

Correct  - you can see the Metsec framing clearly with insulated panels fixed to it.

And they probably haven't finished the pre-cast seating to allow them to crane things in - there's a big opening in the slab to drop things through.

How far do you think we are from the stand opening Al.

[cdav]

Correct  - you can see the Metsec framing clearly with insulated panels fixed to it.

And they probably haven't finished the pre-cast seating to allow them to crane things in - there's a big opening in the slab to drop things through.

Think that is for the precast concrete stairway (is it called a vomotory?) which you can see laid out on the floor outside, they are pretty quick to put up as the Main Stand side seemed to be completed in a week

[Son of Spion]

... If you look at the plans that’s going to have brick and a huge liver bird over it...

What's this about a huge liver bird? I'm not sure I've seen that. I'd certainly like to though.

[meady1981]

What's this about a huge liver bird? I'm not sure I've seen that. I'd certainly like to though.

It's just this section - same as on the main

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Couldn't see properly but were there brick columns behind the scaffolding?

[Son of Spion]

Oh, I see. Thanks.

When a "huge Liver Bird" was mentioned my ears went up as I thought I might be getting what I've always wanted to see on the ground: a huge Liver Bird. 

I'd love to see us put a full sized LFC styled statue of the bird on one of our stands. Lit up in red light at night. It would look amazing.

[Son of Spion]

Couldn't see properly but were there brick columns behind the scaffolding?

There is. ☺️👍

[The Jolly Boys Outing]

Could be the wrong thread but has anyone had any correspondence from the club regarding Season tickets (waiting list) for next season? Any update?

[Peter McGurk]

I didn't read it wrong Peter was replying to a post about needing public infrastructure improvements.

What Peter basically said was that things were okay. Without realising that there are massive changes afoot. He thinks it just needs better management. Bless.

You can read, right? Which part of 'get out of your car, get a train, walk or get on a bus' do you not understand??

I don't think it's me that needs a blessing. C'mon, admit it. You read something a bit too quickly and went off on some kind of tangent.

[Crosby Nick]

Oh, I see. Thanks.

When a "huge Liver Bird" was mentioned my ears went up as I thought I might be getting what I've always wanted to see on the ground: a huge Liver Bird. 

I'd love to see us put a full sized LFC styled statue of the bird on one of our stands. Lit up in red light at night. It would look amazing.

A Liver Bird upon my roof
Won’t be disturbed, bar from a hoof

[Garlicbread]

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1633867744654262277

Official video from the club

[meady1981]

(No one gives a fuck about the cars lads, start a different thread.  Construction porn only on here)

And the lord said, haveth some porn

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1633867744654262277

Official video from the club

[cdav]

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1633867744654262277

Official video from the club

Nice video- shows the size of the concourses and should have some great views over the park

Also from the Echo saying its on track

"The rapid progress means, should all go to plan between now and the end of the summer, Liverpool will be under no pressure to ask the Premier League to stage their opening fixtures of the 2023/24 season away from Anfield as was the case at the start of the 2016/17 season when they awaited the completion of the Main Stand project."

[TepidT2O]

So,  it 4 months behind as Everton fans claimed. Shocked they were wrong I tell you!

[Uncle Ronnie]

Don't want to derail the thread

Screw it, making that my signature

[LiamG]

Screw it, making that my signature

i thought we were safe in here

[Ghost Town]

And the lord said, haveth some porn

What an amazing piece of construction and engineering. It's easy to become blasé about building work, but now and then you get a reminder of just how remarkable is the human ability to manipulate materials and effect such extraordinary erections

*strokes chin*

[Son of Spion]

I've not been in the ARE since the 90s but I'll definitely be trying for a ticket in there once it's finished so I can have a look around. It's looking great.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Great vid.
I'm absolutely fascinated by civil engineering / big buildings. Know very little about it, but the design, planning, procurement, execution is incredible.
As an aside, If the project cost is £80m, what would the profit margin be for the main contractor?

Not like the BS to be starting rumours, I can just imagine them passing that around with absolute certainty when they've no idea whether the £ is in place to finish theirs.

[disgraced cake]

Is there any chance we might have to play the first few games next season away from home like we did in 2016? In case it's not quite done in time of course.

[rob1966]

I've not been in the ARE since the 90s but I'll definitely be trying for a ticket in there once it's finished so I can have a look around. It's looking great.

I've got my fingers crossed I'll get offered a seasie in there.

[JasonF]

Is there any chance we might have to play the first few games next season away from home like we did in 2016? In case it's not quite done in time of course.

From a few posts up:

"The rapid progress means, should all go to plan between now and the end of the summer, Liverpool will be under no pressure to ask the Premier League to stage their opening fixtures of the 2023/24 season away from Anfield as was the case at the start of the 2016/17 season when they awaited the completion of the Main Stand project."

[Alan_X]

Think that is for the precast concrete stairway (is it called a vomotory?) which you can see laid out on the floor outside, they are pretty quick to put up as the Main Stand side seemed to be completed in a week

Could be where the stairway goes but it's being used to drop in materials.


Opening in roof slab with barriers.


Second floor (General Admission concourse) with opening above and pallets of materials.

[Red Beret]

Oh, I see. Thanks.

When a "huge Liver Bird" was mentioned my ears went up as I thought I might be getting what I've always wanted to see on the ground: a huge Liver Bird. 

I'd love to see us put a full sized LFC styled statue of the bird on one of our stands. Lit up in red light at night. It would look amazing.

I'd love it if it could fly over to Goodison every week and take a massive shit.

[KevLFC]

I'd love it if it could fly over to Goodison every week and take a massive shit.

Yes true but Goodison won't be there much longer...

[cdav]

https://youtu.be/5JmstQwvYfg

New Paul Frost video from yesterday, looks very wintery still

[Graeme]

Thread needs splitting off. I come here for the construction money shots.

[stueya]

From a few posts up:

Add to that the bonus they have had with way the CL draw has fallen, lack of progress in cup competitions and the unexpected postponement of the Fulham game means they have had a 5 week window with no games gifted to them which will should allow them to push on without having to demob and remob around games

[koptommy93]

4,000 actual seats out of 7k, a joke and it will do fuck all to help demand.

[RedBec1993]

4,000 actual seats out of 7k, a joke and it will do fuck all to help demand.

3000 hospitality?

[daindan]

3000 hospitality?

 1800 seasonal hospitality and 1200 offsite match day?