Topic: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance

[Andar]

I've realised Fulham away isn't the banker it seems. Easy to look at that game and think it should be an easy 3 points at little old Craven Cottage, but they have beaten Arsenal and Spurs at home. They have the 7th best home record. League cup game over there wasn't easy, and both home games against them have been tough.

I remember in 18/19 we had them during the run-in and it took a last minute penalty to get the win. Not sure it was a penalty either. Mane made a big deal out of the slight contact.

In fact they seemed to have a trend of causing us issues during a title run-in. We needed a last minute Benayoun winner back in 2009.

Not going to be an easy game and it will be 3 days after a potential EL semi-final.

[disgraced cake]

I've realised Fulham away isn't the banker it seems. Easy to look at that game and think it should be an easy 3 points at little old Craven Cottage, but they have beaten Arsenal and Spurs at home. They have the 7th best home record. League cup game over there wasn't easy, and both home games against them have been tough.

I remember in 18/19 we had them during the run-in and it took a last minute penalty to get the win. Not sure it was a penalty either. Mane made a big deal out of the slight contact.

In fact they seemed to have a trend of causing us issues during a title run-in. We needed a last minute Benayoun winner back in 2009.

Not going to be an easy game and it will be 3 days after a potential EL semi-final.

We have history of late winners there later on in the season. Benayoun, Gerrard and Milner both scoring penalties too. Got to win the games before that though, Brighton won't be easy but we should beat them, then onto Sheffield United and hopefully something comfortable there, they'll give up if we can score a couple of goals early on like others have against them.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Would be really nice if Jurgen eh encouraged a few of our lads to have some muscle injuries and rest up over the next 2 weeks. I absolutely despise silly international football. Players being fresh for the final run of games could make all the difference.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I've realised Fulham away isn't the banker it seems. Easy to look at that game and think it should be an easy 3 points at little old Craven Cottage, but they have beaten Arsenal and Spurs at home. They have the 7th best home record. League cup game over there wasn't easy, and both home games against them have been tough.

I remember in 18/19 we had them during the run-in and it took a last minute penalty to get the win. Not sure it was a penalty either. Mane made a big deal out of the slight contact.

In fact they seemed to have a trend of causing us issues during a title run-in. We needed a last minute Benayoun winner back in 2009.

Not going to be an easy game and it will be 3 days after a potential EL semi-final.

It is genuinely one of the tougher games we have, feels akin to Crystal Palace where, while we had a great record, we always seemed to labour to win (other than the 7-0). It was always a hard match.

Fulham away will be a hard match. We should be expecting to win and a defeat will be a disappointing result but that's not to say it's an easy match or it should be taken for granted

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Would be really nice if Jurgen eh encouraged a few of our lads to have some muscle injuries and rest up over the next 2 weeks. I absolutely despise silly international football. Players being fresh for the final run of games could make all the difference.

Hopefully he has in fact done just that with Nunez, Diaz, and Gakpo

[spider-neil]

Focus all our energy on the league. Whatever happens in Europe, happens.

[Crosby Nick]

Tough to say if Arsenal would drop points if they win there.

Might give them more belief. 

I think the best we can hope for is a draw though.

Arsenal aren’t going to win 19 in a row in the league, they’re just not. Even if they beat City, law of averages/everything we know about football tells us they will drop points somewhere.

If they don’t, then fair play to them.

[killer-heels]

Focus all our energy on the league. Whatever happens in Europe, happens.

I think there is more than enough scope for this side to compete in Europe, especially in a tournament as easy as the Europa, and manage league games. Where it gets a bit mad is throwing in domestic cups as well and all of a sudden you get no free weekends and have to rearrange games and pack your schedule. Thats on top of the reality that the week of all those finals have both on the team now and the future.

We have won a domestic competition, it was great and remembered as one of the greatest of all Klopp's wins thanks to the context. But I couldn't care less about the FA Cup now and just want to give the league our best effort without the compromise these extra games make you take.

[mikey_LFC]

When’s best for the Everton rearrangement? April 24 or May 16?

[killer-heels]

When’s best for the Everton rearrangement? April 24 or May 16?

Personally I think the later the better. Gives us more time now to recover, more time to get players back and if City or Arsenal hit a sticky patch then it could reduce the pressure. Of course it could go the other way, but right now Id want a later date fixture.

[spider-neil]

Personally I think the later the better. Gives us more time now to recover, more time to get players back and if City or Arsenal hit a sticky patch then it could reduce the pressure. Of course it could go the other way, but right now Id want a later date fixture.

Everton may be fighting for their lives in a relegation battle by then. I'd rather play them in April.

[killer-heels]

Everton may be fighting for their lives in a relegation battle by then. I'd rather play them in April.

Like I said you could argue it either way. But we will have more of a chance of having our injured players back by then.

[DelTrotter]

We’d never be allowed to potentially win the league there, the game wouldn’t finish. Will be April.

[mikey_LFC]

Personally I think the later the better. Gives us more time now to recover, more time to get players back and if City or Arsenal hit a sticky patch then it could reduce the pressure. Of course it could go the other way, but right now Id want a later date fixture.

Part of me agrees but, it also brings about the opportunity to lose the league at Goodison. The earlier game would also give us the chance to put scoreboard pressure on City with our game in hand.

[mikey_LFC]

We’d never be allowed to potentially win the league there, the game wouldn’t finish. Will be April.

Can you imagine the scenes. They’d have to move to the new stadium next year as they’d burn the ground down.

[DelTrotter]

Can you imagine the scenes. They’d have to move to the new stadium next year as they’d burn the ground down.

  Yep, it would be chaos. Imagine if it relegated them as well. It couldn’t really get any better than that! Life would be complete! Would be abandoned as soon as we took the lead, can’t imagine the police etc will want anything to do with that even if the scenario is unlikely.

[Nick110581]

We’d never be allowed to potentially win the league there, the game wouldn’t finish. Will be April.

They could be our toughest stretch of games.

Fulham, Everton and West Ham away in a week. 😬

[spider-neil]

We’d never be allowed to potentially win the league there, the game wouldn’t finish. Will be April.

Winning the league and sending Everton down in the same game. Imagine that.

[mikey_LFC]

Winning the league and sending Everton down in the same game. Imagine that.

Think we’ve just found the silver lining from yesterday. Fingers crossed we can make it happen!

[spider-neil]

Think we’ve just found the silver lining from yesterday. Fingers crossed we can make it happen!

The game would be a war. Remember that Everton has crocked three of our players long-term (Divok, VVD, Thaigo) and their Premiership status wasn't on the line. It would be a bloodbath.

[Fitzy.]

The game would be a war. Remember that Everton has crocked three of our players long-term (Divok, VVD, Thaigo) and their Premiership status wasn't on the line. It would be a bloodbath.

"The board's gone up and it's 37 minutes of additional time"

[stonecold_jpm]

When’s best for the Everton rearrangement? April 24 or May 16?

April in between Everton's home games with Forest and Brentford which may see them target them more.

[shook]

Everton may be fighting for their lives in a relegation battle by then. I'd rather play them in April.

Depends upon what they need, if they need the 3points and its an open match, favours us.

[PaulKS]

Updated run-in schedule now we are out of the FA Cup - Fulham no longer being re-arranged.. it was likely to have been last week of the season, before Wolves.

Very likely Everton A will be announced for w/c 22nd April this week - therefore giving us 3 away games on the bounce


Brighton (H)
Sheffield United (H)
Man United (A)
Europa League
Crystal Palace (H)
Europa League
Fulham (A)
Everton (A) MID-WEEK
West Ham (A)
Potential Europa League
Spurs (H)
Potential Europa League
Aston Villa (A)
Wolves (H)

Also likely/certain that Arsenal and City will have mid-week fixtures last week of the season, whereas we now wont and it will be free for us

[Gerard00]

Updated run-in schedule now we are out of the FA Cup - Fulham no longer being re-arranged.. it was likely to have been last week of the season, before Wolves.

Very likely Everton A will be announced for w/c 22nd April this week - therefore giving us 3 away games on the bounce


Brighton (H)
Sheffield United (H)
Man United (A)
Europa League
Crystal Palace (H)
Europa League
Fulham (A)
Everton (A) MID-WEEK
West Ham (A)
Potential Europa League
Spurs (H)
Potential Europa League
Aston Villa (A)
Wolves (H)

Also likely/certain that Arsenal and City will have mid-week fixtures last week of the season, whereas we now wont and it will be free for us

Would love to get 12 from the next 4 (3 at home and 3 from Utd) would set us up nicely for those those last 6: 4 away and 2 at home - hopefully by that point Spurs and Villa are clear of 6th.

[Samie]

We need six points to confirm top 4.

[lionel_messias]

Updated run-in schedule now we are out of the FA Cup - Fulham no longer being re-arranged.. it was likely to have been last week of the season, before Wolves.

Very likely Everton A will be announced for w/c 22nd April this week - therefore giving us 3 away games on the bounce


Brighton (H)
Sheffield United (H)
Man United (A)
Europa League
Crystal Palace (H)
Europa League
Fulham (A)
Everton (A) MID-WEEK
West Ham (A)
Potential Europa League
Spurs (H)
Potential Europa League
Aston Villa (A)
Wolves (H)

Also likely/certain that Arsenal and City will have mid-week fixtures last week of the season, whereas we now wont and it will be free for us

Very last week of the season, Europa League Final is Weds 22nd, Premier League Finale (Jurgen's farewell) on the Sunday!

[PaulKS]

Very last week of the season, Europa League Final is Weds 22nd, Premier League Finale (Jurgen's farewell) on the Sunday!

Europa League Final is the Wednesday after Wolves, not before... if that's what you meant

Has the potential to be quite the week

[Caps4444]

United have Chelsea away, same night we have Sheffield at home….so both teams will have same amount of rest.

[Caps4444]

Also really need to try and somehow finish the Atlanta tie in the first leg, then we can at least rotate a little before Fulham away.

[StevoHimself]

Winning the league and sending Everton down in the same game. Imagine that.

I want this more than anything now 

[Andar]

Also really need to try and somehow finish the Atlanta tie in the first leg, then we can at least rotate a little before Fulham away.

We finished Sparta in the 1st eg and pretty much played our best available team in the 2nd leg

[Barneylfc∗]

Very last week of the season, Europa League Final is Weds 22nd, Premier League Finale (Jurgen's farewell) on the Sunday!

All dates and confirmed kick off times up to Fulham A

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=354359.msg19356565#msg19356565

INTERNATIONAL BREAK
31/03/2024 14:00 Brighton (h)
04/04/2024 19:30 Sheffield United (h)
07/04/2024 15:30 Manchester United (a)
11/04/2024 20:00 Atalanta H
14/04/2024 14:00 Crystal Palace (h)
18/04/2024 20:00 Atalanta A
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20/04/2024 15:00 Fulham (a)
FREE MIDWEEK - Probably Everton A
27/04/2024 15:00 West Ham United (a)
02/05/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE SEMI FINAL 1st LEG
04/05/2024 15:00 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
09/05/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE SEMI FINAL 2nd LEG
11/05/2024 15:00 Aston Villa (a)
FREE MIDWEEK
19/05/2024 16:00 Wolverhampton (h)
22/05/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE FINAL

[Caps4444]

Hopefully Villa also have a Euro semi before our game.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

We need six points to confirm top 4.

That would be the main aim for this season wrapped up.  I think we can get more, and I want more, but after this point we can say this is a good season IMHO, having met the expected goals

[Fordy]

Hopefully Villa also have a Euro semi before our game.

And secured a CL spot.

[Caps4444]

I feel playing Everton in the second free game week is better…..I feel relegation may be sorted by then….which will work to our advantage.

[MonsLibpool]

We need six points to confirm top 4.

Oh really! The team has surpassed our expectations.

[TSC]

All dates and confirmed kick off times up to Fulham A

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=354359.msg19356565#msg19356565

INTERNATIONAL BREAK
31/03/2024 14:00 Brighton (h)
04/04/2024 19:30 Sheffield United (h)
07/04/2024 15:30 Manchester United (a)
11/04/2024 20:00 Atalanta H
14/04/2024 14:00 Crystal Palace (h)
18/04/2024 20:00 Atalanta A
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20/04/2024 15:00 Fulham (a)
FREE MIDWEEK - Probably Everton A
27/04/2024 15:00 West Ham United (a)
02/05/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE SEMI FINAL 1st LEG
04/05/2024 15:00 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
09/05/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE SEMI FINAL 2nd LEG
11/05/2024 15:00 Aston Villa (a)
FREE MIDWEEK
19/05/2024 16:00 Wolverhampton (h)
22/05/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE FINAL

Spurs and/or villa may be pushed to the Sunday.

[MNAA]

The doubters came out of their hiding. Utd did not win the game. We gave it to them and lost. There is a league championship to be won. Nothing is certain. Plenty of games still to be played. And we are capable. Why doubt them now after all they had given to us this season. Back them. Encourage them. Support them. One game at a time …