Topic: Pink Floyd

[Andy @ Allerton!]

No, but you seem to agree with Starmer's views on what is seen as Anti-Semetic?

Under Corbyn the Labour Party appeared to be massively anti-semetic. Or do you dispute that?

If you don't then are you happy for Labour to be anti-semetic or do you think they shouldn't be?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Twitter for some reason has deleted the  video on there

Not sure what your point is there mate? It's still clearly on YouTube which is where it is from..?

[Terry de Niro]

Under Corbyn the Labour Party appeared to be massively anti-semetic. Or do you dispute that?

If you don't then are you happy for Labour to be anti-semetic or do you think they shouldn't be?

He called out the Israel bully state for what they are.
That is not anti-Semitic. That is calling out a bully state.
How did Israel get most of their land and property from the Palestinians and still are to this day?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

He called out the Israel bully state for what they are.
That is not anti-Semitic. That is calling out a bully state.
How did Israel get most of their land and property from the Palestinians and still are to this day?

I'm honestly not an expert on any of this mate   As you know, I'm just a fat bloater that talks shite on the interweb

But, when Corbyn was around there were more than a few stories about problems in the Labour Party and then the impartial investigation was performed which, from what I saw of it, seemed quite damning?

Was there a problem at the time when Corbyn was in charge or is that just made up?

[Terry de Niro]

I'm honestly not an expert on any of this mate   As you know, I'm just a fat bloater that talks shite on the interweb

But, when Corbyn was around there were more than a few stories about problems in the Labour Party and then the impartial investigation was performed which, from what I saw of it, seemed quite damning?

Was there a problem at the time when Corbyn was in charge or is that just made up?

Corbyn was hung out to dry by Tory B team leader, Starmer, and his right-wing chums.
Had the knife not been pushed into the back of Corbyn, we could possibly have won an election and not be ruled by the Tory c*nts.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Corbyn was hung out to dry by Tory B team leader, Starmer, and his right-wing chums.
Had the knife not been pushed into the back of Corbyn, we could possibly have won an election and not be ruled by the Tory c*nts.

So you are saying there was no problem at the report was a complete lie?

[Terry de Niro]

So you are saying there was no problem at the report was a complete lie?

No, I'm saying Corbyn was a far better Labour leader than Starmer.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

No, I'm saying Corbyn was a far better Labour leader than Starmer.

Ok but that's not what we're talking about here is it?

[Terry de Niro]

Ok but that's not what we're talking about here is it?

You believe in whatever you want to believe and I will do the same.
Have a nice day/week/month/year/life. 

[Yorkykopite]

Corbyn was hung out to dry by Tory B team leader, Starmer, and his right-wing chums.
Had the knife not been pushed into the back of Corbyn, we could possibly have won an election and not be ruled by the Tory c*nts.

I don't agree that this happened. I don't think many people do.

But I wonder if you agree with Roger Waters when he says Israel and the Jews were behind all these moves? (It's what he says in that video you posted and what he repeated at his gig in London this week).

[Terry de Niro]

I don't agree that this happened. I don't think many people do.

But I wonder if you agree with Roger Waters when he says Israel and the Jews were behind all these moves? (It's what he says in that video you posted and what he repeated at his gig in London this week).

Same as what I said to Andy.

You believe in whatever you want to believe and I will do the same.
Have a nice day/week/month/year/life. 

[Andy @ Allerton!]

You believe in whatever you want to believe and I will do the same.
Have a nice day/week/month/year/life. 

Yeah but I'm asking a specific question and you've given a different answer unless I've missed something?

The report said there was a problem. If you agree there was then should something have been done?

[Yorkykopite]

Same as what I said to Andy.

You're probably right to be careful.

[ToneLa]

This again??

Labour thread :
https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=353137.0

Anyway back to the music

From last page

I need to broaden my Floyd horizons a bit, I only ever listen to DSOTM, Wall, Animals and WYWH. What other album should I focus on? I'm pretty sure I don't like the early stuff before Barrett left.

Do try Piper.

The Syd era is only one album though

They were in his shadow for a while.

Meddle is underrated
I like Obscured by Clouds


Atom Heart Mother isn't bad but 'not bad' might not be what you're looking for

[Terry de Niro]

Yeah but I'm asking a specific question and you've given a different answer unless I've missed something?

The report said there was a problem. If you agree there was then should something have been done?

Andy, I can't be arsed arguing with you.
I have met you in person, and you seemed like a nice lad, but on here you come across as a mouth-frothing loon, and anyone who hasn't met you as I have would probably think the same.

 

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Andy, I can't be arsed arguing with you.
I have met you in person, and you seemed like a nice lad, but on here you come across as a mouth-frothing loon, and anyone who hasn't met you as I have would probably think the same.

 

I am a nice lad

Just because we disagree on some things doesn't change that. For me a forum is there to chat about and discuss stuff and quite often I change my point of view and I learn something.

Sorry if I've upset you. Certainly didn't mean to mate

[Speedy Molby]

This again??

Labour thread :
https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=353137.0

Anyway back to the music

From last page

Am I the only one who loves The Final Cut?

[Terry de Niro]

Am I the only one who loves The Final Cut?

Boss album.

[Chakan]

Am I the only one who loves The Final Cut?

One of m favorite albums of all time.

[gjr1]

Am I the only one who loves The Final Cut?

One of my favourites

[only6times]

Tweeted Roger before his last Liverpool gig asking for backstage passes as payment for my dad and brother being on Fearless. The tweet got a like but no backstage passes.

Think Roy Harper asked for an MSC membership for "Have a Cigar" so I'm in good company .

[ToneLa]

Think Gilmour is nicer (and better)

Feels like the Waters thread this 

[kesey]

He called out the Israel bully state for what they are.
That is not anti-Semitic. That is calling out a bully state.
How did Israel get most of their land and property from the Palestinians and still are to this day?

I think the term Anti - Semetic changed a few years ago to someone who does not agree or support Israels foreign policy.  I use to go out with a girl in the 2000's and she was Jewish and her ma ' was Israeli and both didn't support Israels foreign policy so therefore they are both Anti - Semetic ?  It's a bid mad if you think about it .

[Yorkykopite]

I think the term Anti - Semetic changed a few years ago to someone who does not agree or support Israels foreign policy.  I use to go out with a girl in the 2000's and she was Jewish and her ma ' was Israeli and both didn't support Israels foreign policy so therefore they are both Anti - Semetic ?  It's a bid mad if you think about it .

It would be mad if that were the reason. But it isn't, so we can all relax.

[only6times]

Politics thread over there>>>>>>

All I know is that between Floyd and Moroccan black, many generations of young Scousers had their eyes and brains opened up to the world, politically, socially and most importantly, emotionally.

You can go round the houses all day about blah blah blah but "Time" will stop me in my tracks until the day I die.

[Yorkykopite]

A fair part of his concerts are about politics aren't they? They're vehicles for his own weird opinions about the world.

From his recent interview in Berlin:

Why don’t you play shows in Russia?

Not for ideological reasons. It is simply not possible at the moment. I’m not boycotting Russia, that would be ridiculous. I play 38 shows in the USA. If I were to boycott any country for political reasons, it would be the US. They are the main aggressor.

If one looks at the conflict neutrally, one can see Putin as the aggressor. Do you think we are all brainwashed?

Yes, I do indeed, definitely. Brainwashed, you said it.

https://rogerwaters.com/berliner/

I'd love to see him boycott the USA. And the West generally, since we're so awful. That would actually be honourable on his part.

[only6times]

Like I said, politics thread that way >>>>>>

This is the Pink Floyd thread, go on Spotify and listen to the post Waters stuff. If you don't skip any of it, well God help you.

Dave Gilmours guitar,  Richard Wright's keyboard and Nick Mason's drums have taken me from the humdrum of life more times than anything else with Rogers lyrics putting the top hat on it.

[only6times]

I'd love to see him boycott the USA. And the West generally, since we're so awful. That would actually be honourable on his part.

Nice sweeping generalisation.

[JerseyKloppite]

This thread has become fairly toxic and will be locked unless it improves.

It is first and foremost for chat about Pink Floyd. Obviously the current situation with Roger Waters is relevant, and he is a somewhat problematic figure currently. I think everyone can accept that there is a difference between antisemitism and criticising the Israeli state. Whether Waters goes beyond that into antisemitism is debatable but it's fair to say that some of his other nonsense about Putin is very troubling.

In any event, this is plainly not the place to be arguing about the Labour party, if it happens again it will be locked.

[Terry de Niro]

Right..Back to Pink Floyd then.

Favourite ever track by them?
Mine is Mother.

[redan]

Back to the music, I too love The Final Cut and I think it’s contains some truly outstanding, beautiful songs. After listening to Floyd a lot after seeing Waters live recently I’ve reassessed my albums ranking

From worst to best

Endless River
Ummagumma (if only counting the studio album)
Momentary Lapse of Reason
More
Division Bell
Obscured by Clouds
Saucerful of Secrets
Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Atom Heart Mother
Meddle
The Final Cut
Wish You Were Here
The Wall
Dark Side of the Moon
Animals

Favourite song is currently Dogs

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Right..Back to Pink Floyd then.

Favourite ever track by them?
Mine is Mother.

Pearl Jam covered that on one of the American chat shows and it is brilliant. Worth looking out for.

I think my current favourite Pink Floyd song is Sheep, but it'll change tomorrow, depending on what my Spotify plays at work.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Right..Back to Pink Floyd then.

Favourite ever track by them?
Mine is Mother.

Same but my favourite version is the one off Legion.

[ToneLa]

Interstellar Overdrive is impeccable brilliance

[kesey]

It would be mad if that were the reason. But it isn't, so we can all relax.

So what is the reason then ?

[SvenJohansen]

I need to broaden my Floyd horizons a bit, I only ever listen to DSOTM, Wall, Animals and WYWH. What other album should I focus on? I'm pretty sure I don't like the early stuff before Barrett left.

You have to try Meddle, on vinyl it used to be only one song on side B - Echoes, awesome song. Side A is pretty great too. Live At Pompeii is another great one. Check out the film of it on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhDfmUnN1vY&ab_channel=FranzFloyd

[SvenJohansen]

Right..Back to Pink Floyd then.

Favourite ever track by them?
Mine is Mother.

That's an extremely difficult question to answer. There's so many favourites to pick one is near impossible but I think it has to be Echoes.

[only6times]

Seamus belonged to Steve Marriot.

[24/7]

You have to try Meddle, on vinyl it used to be only one song on side B - Echoes, awesome song. Side A is pretty great too. Live At Pompeii is another great one. Check out the film of it on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhDfmUnN1vY&ab_channel=FranzFloyd

Was just about to post the same. The 2nd part of Echoes on Pompeii is one of my favourite pieces of live music ever recorded anywhere. I used to play a game with a friend, a "What if...?" - when it came to the subject of, "What if you could go back in time to any concert in the history of live music, which would it be?" my choice was Pink Floyd Live At Pompeii. My Latin project at school was on Pompeii and I've always romanticised about going there but I'm told it's jam-packed with wankers and selfie-sticks....

The footage in this gig though represents how I always see Pompeii in my imagination - and the music is off the scale. Although the Director did at times appear to have an unhealthy fascination with Nick Mason


Oh and Roger Waters is a massive wanker

[So… Howard Philips]

Was just about to post the same. The 2nd part of Echoes on Pompeii is one of my favourite pieces of live music ever recorded anywhere. I used to play a game with a friend, a "What if...?" - when it came to the subject of, "What if you could go back in time to any concert in the history of live music, which would it be?" my choice was Pink Floyd Live At Pompeii. My Latin project at school was on Pompeii and I've always romanticised about going there but I'm told it's jam-packed with wankers and selfie-sticks....

The footage in this gig though represents how I always see Pompeii in my imagination - and the music is off the scale. Although the Director did at times appear to have an unhealthy fascination with Nick Mason


Oh and Roger Waters is a massive wanker

Off the subject slightly but Pompeii is fine once you get away from the main areas. It’s very atmospheric, particularly with Vesuvius’s truncated snout lowering in the background.