Topic: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*

[Ray K]

So O’Neil to leave the Wolves manager role to work under Southgate?

You know what's better than having one mid-table premier league manager at your club? Having two mid-table PL managers. #MarginalGains

[Crosby Nick]

You know what's better than having one mid-table premier league manager at your club? Having two mid-table PL managers. #MarginalGains

[Draex]

So O’Neil to leave the Wolves manager role to work under Southgate?

This "new" utd screams of trying to be far too clever for their own good, imagine asking a succesfull Premiership manager/coach to come and work under someone else. Such arrogance, unbecoming those c*nts.

[Nitramdorf]

Mainoo is still trending on Twitter. Please make it stop.  Hes going to be another Pogba isnt he?

[Redley]

Mainoo is still trending on Twitter. Please make it stop.  Hes going to be another Pogba isnt he?

I’d be astonished if he’s even a tenth as good as Pogba. It’s mind boggling, he’s not good at anything

[elbow]

Mainoo is still trending on Twitter. Please make it stop.  Hes going to be another Pogba isnt he?

No, no, no - let it continue. It’s absolutely great!

[The North Bank]

How bad is ten hag, hes got the best 18 year old since messi and they can’t even break into the top 5

[Wghennessy]

Mainoo is still trending on Twitter. Please make it stop.  Hes going to be another Pogba isnt he?

It was the most average performance youll ever see. If his name was Henderson he would have got absolutely rinsed.

[ScottScott]

I must either be blind or just not understand football because I just don't see the hype at all. He seems like a bang average CM and yet it feels like I'm being gaslit into thinking he's the second coming of Messi

[The North Bank]

I must either be blind or just not understand football because I just don't see the hype at all. He seems like a bang average CM and yet it feels like I'm being gaslit into thinking he's the second coming of Messi

Greatest 18 year old this country has ever seen

[MJD-L4]

I must either be blind or just not understand football because I just don't see the hype at all. He seems like a bang average CM and yet it feels like I'm being gaslit into thinking he's the second coming of Messi

He's 18, English & hasn't looked out of place in an (albeit shit) Manchester United midfield. That's pretty much all it takes for the press to go into Jizzfest overdrive these days.

[The North Bank]

If england dont win the euros, its Mainoos fault. I expected more from a generational player.

[Son of Spion]

I must either be blind or just not understand football because I just don't see the hype at all. He seems like a bang average CM and yet it feels like I'm being gaslit into thinking he's the second coming of Messi

What are you on about? In the paper after our game with them, his emergence was hailed as on of the most meteoric rises that football has ever seen.

 

[CraigDS]

How many United youth players can you name over the last 10 to 15 years who have been hyped by the main stream press (so not just their own fans as most clubs do) but have gone on to do very little?

[Fiasco]

I don't see the hype with Mainoo but the hype in itself isn't surprising. As Craig said above this kind of this has happened for ages, players have been fully fledged England internationals on the back of a few appearances for United and have then gone on to milk a career out of it.

Mainoo might be different I don't know but I don't see anything outstanding in his game so far. Young he is and he will improve etc but let's wait before we declare him the best midfielder in Europe. The press aren't far off proclaiming that already.

[duvva 💅]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4xwqZgiHvR/?igsh=OHdjc2NhMjVjeGtv

Not as cutting as some of their stuff but made me smile

[SamLad]

it's beyond bloody childish.  he got MOTM ffs.  and idiots falling over each other to kiss his ass. 

bbc:
The remarkable rise of 18-year-old Kobbie Mainoo continued last night.  In the latest of chapter of his breakthrough season, Mainoo was handed his first start for England after coming off the bench for a cameo appearance in the loss against Brazil on Saturday.  Mainoo got 74 minutes under his belt against Belgium, giving Gareth Southgate a big decision to make when it comes to naming his squad for Euro 2024.

His England team-mates didn't hold back with their praise for the teenager.  Ivan Toney said: "I think at 18 I was probably playing Xbox but he's out here being a man and playing for England.
He carries himself very well, he glides with the ball, I'm sure there's a lot more to come from him and he's going all the way to the top."

Jordan Pickford said: "He's quality. I think he made his full Premier League debut for Manchester United against Everton and he dictated the game pretty much. He's not been out of the United side since. He's come in and done what he's been doing there and you can see he's a top talent."

After making his debut as a substitute against Brazil, Mainoo was handed a starting place by Gareth Southgate in Tuesday's friendly with Belgium. "You just can't stop being impressed by this young man," said former England goalkeeper Paul Robinson on BBC Radio 5 Live's Football Daily podcast. "He's played less than 25 games for Manchester United but he's had an impact on Southgate and has been promoted into the first team."

Aged 18 years and 342 days, Mainoo became the third-youngest United player to start a game for England, behind Duncan Edwards(18y 183d) and Marcus Rashford (18y 209d).

"Quite often from an international point of view, we're guilty of promoting players too young and they don't even make it off the bench," added Robinson. "This isn't the case with Mainoo. He's come into the side and straight into the starting line-up. There might be players missing through injury but he's made a real case to be included in the Euro squad."

[Crosby Nick]

He might make the squad but surely won’t start at the Euros. Haven’t seen enough of him to make a proper judgement of him. For now I’ll assume he’s overhyped because of who he plays for. As someone said he will get goodwill because of his age, and he is tidy on the ball. But when he came on against Brazil they started to get more joy on the counter and sounds like Belgium played through them quite easily last night too so if you were to judge him as an adult midfielder and how he makes the midfield function, rather than him just being a talented young player who can pick a pass now and again you’d not be having him near the team.

Not that most on here will be bothered, but he will so I feel a bit for Curtis. He’s had bad timing with injuries when it comes to international selection. Think he’ll miss the bait for the summer which is a shame for him, even if it’s good for us if he gets plenty of rest.

[SamLad]

Not that most on here will be bothered, but he will so I feel a bit for Curtis. He’s had bad timing with injuries when it comes to international selection. Think he’ll miss the bait for the summer which is a shame for him, even if it’s good for us if he gets plenty of rest.

I get what you're saying and don't really disagree, but imo the last thing Curtis needs is to be called up for England. 

too many serious back-to-back injuries, he needs a meaningful break from the game this summer so he can focus on impressing his new boss.

[BobPaisley3]

It was the most average performance youll ever see. If his name was Henderson he would have got absolutely rinsed.

Thank you. I thought I was watching a different game to the commentators and pundits. Did make me laugh, they showed a clip highlighting him doing something good and the first part of it was him giving the ball straight to the opposition.

[PaulF]

Thank you. I thought I was watching a different game to the commentators and pundits. Did make me laugh, they showed a clip highlighting him doing something good and the first part of it was him giving the ball straight to the opposition.

At least the ball stayed in play.

[Suedehead]

If england dont win the euros, its Mainoos fault. I expected more from a generational player.

Seven of your last (checks notes) 11 posts have been about Kobbie Mainoo.

Hope you're having a lovely day.

[Black Bull Nova]

Jordan Pickford said: "He's quality. I think he made his full Premier League debut for Manchester United against Everton and he dictated the game pretty much.

If ever the phrase damned by faint praise was appropriate

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Just let the press hype him so Southgate has to pick him. Meanwhile, some of our young lads can make the steady progress they actually need to make in the shadows without the same spotlight.

[SamLad]

Seven of your last (checks notes) 11 posts have been about Kobbie Mainoo.

Hope you're having a lovely day.

mocking you lot and the UK media wanking themselves dizzy over the latest simply fabulous young MU player, who's done basically eff-all and doesn't pass any kind of eye or stats test, is always a good day.

[BobPaisley3]

At least the ball stayed in play.

Marianne, a man to aspire to.

[The North Bank]

Seven of your last (checks notes) 11 posts have been about Kobbie Mainoo.

Hope you're having a lovely day.

I’ve clearly wasted the other 4. Imagine having the audacity to post about anything else right now.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I’ve clearly wasted the other 4. Imagine having the audacity to post about anything else right now.

Sounds like suedehead has a right kobbie-on with you

[Ray K]

That Carl Weathers - Arnie handshake meme is basically every stat nerd and every Liverpool fan right now, wondering how someone with as stats as bad and not passing the eye test as Mainoo is getting such hype.

That's not to say he won't develop into a really good player. But calm those horses for a few seasons just now.

[skipper757]

It's the problem with United for years of underachieving.

Every young player is hailed as a future star just like every signing gets them excited (but goes nowhere).  Without the right set-up, players are never going to live up to those expectations.  There's a reason why Ferguson's youth players, even ones that weren't very good, were contributors to title-winning sides.  And there's a reason why since Ferguson, almost every hyped youngster and signing have not lived up to expectations.

The team are so bad relative to how much they spend and what expectations are, and some of their first-teamers are so terrible with awful attitudes that pretty much any new player to the side (especially the youth players) seem like big talents and breaths of fresh air.  Only for them to hit reality in due time because the coaching set up is so poor and those players eventually become the same underachieving first-teamers they supplanted in the first place.

They need to revamp everything, not just pin their hopes on the next talented 18-year old.

[JackWard33]

I don't see the hype with Mainoo but the hype in itself isn't surprising. As Craig said above this kind of this has happened for ages, players have been fully fledged England internationals on the back of a few appearances for United and have then gone on to milk a career out of it.

Mainoo might be different I don't know but I don't see anything outstanding in his game so far. Young he is and he will improve etc but let's wait before we declare him the best midfielder in Europe. The press aren't far off proclaiming that already.

I'm old enough to remember Tom Cleverley and its giving me flashbacks
Mainoo's timing is also really good.. the England team has a gap in the traditional CM slot and a shit load of AMs

The fact is he's not particularly good yet at the top level... he does some eye catching things and looks decent technically but I'm a numbers guy and his underlying club numbers aren't there (you can contrast with a player like Elliott whose produced them since day 1) ..
Doesn't mean he won't go on to be elite - playing significant minutes at CM at 18 for a big club is rare and impressive, but the over rating of him based on where he's at today is mental

[Red Ol]

Off the back of the cup win against us and the ensuing wall to wall media love- in, then the non stop (and thus far completely unjustified) hype around the kid who just played for England … it’s a timely reminder how this lot will be off-the-scale insufferable if they ever actually win something significant. It’ll be worse than even the period under Ferguson.

Fortunately it won’t be anytime soon.

[stewy17]

This Mainoo kid is the perfect combination of the Manchester United and England hype train in full effect.

England haven’t won a game when he’s played against teams they should probably have beaten at home and Manchester United have been deeply, deeply shite particularly due to dire underperformance in the position he plays in this season.

He’s a kid that’s all fine it shouldn’t be expected but here we are again. The Rooney comparisons are some of the most laughable hyperbole I’ve ever seen. In no world are they comparable as players or in their initial impact.

But apparently he’s a shoe in for the plane. ENGERLUND.

[fowlermagic]

Just a wee reminder this powerhouse of a team has scored less league goals than Luton this season.

[PaulF]

Just a wee reminder this powerhouse of a team has scored less league goals than Luton this season.

Gunna have to pull you up on that one. Hate to do it, but that's not quite right.  It's fewer goals than Luton 😁

[fowlermagic]

Gunna have to pull you up on that one. Hate to do it, but that's not quite right.  It's fewer goals than Luton 😁

You got me 😉 i should have said fewer goals and less leadership on n off the field

[DarkOfTheManatee]

If they take points off us at Old Trafford, think there'll genuinely be more celebration and excitement amongst Man Utd fans over their 'Treble' (of unbeaten matches against Liverpool) than there was amongst Man City fans over their 'Treble' last season.

Tells you everything about the state of those two clubs.

[Betty Blue]

it's beyond bloody childish.  he got MOTM ffs.  and idiots falling over each other to kiss his ass. 

bbc:
The remarkable rise of 18-year-old Kobbie Mainoo continued last night.  In the latest of chapter of his breakthrough season, Mainoo was handed his first start for England after coming off the bench for a cameo appearance in the loss against Brazil on Saturday.  Mainoo got 74 minutes under his belt against Belgium, giving Gareth Southgate a big decision to make when it comes to naming his squad for Euro 2024.

His England team-mates didn't hold back with their praise for the teenager.  Ivan Toney said: "I think at 18 I was probably playing Xbox but he's out here being a man and playing for England.
He carries himself very well, he glides with the ball, I'm sure there's a lot more to come from him and he's going all the way to the top."

Jordan Pickford said: "He's quality. I think he made his full Premier League debut for Manchester United against Everton and he dictated the game pretty much. He's not been out of the United side since. He's come in and done what he's been doing there and you can see he's a top talent."

After making his debut as a substitute against Brazil, Mainoo was handed a starting place by Gareth Southgate in Tuesday's friendly with Belgium. "You just can't stop being impressed by this young man," said former England goalkeeper Paul Robinson on BBC Radio 5 Live's Football Daily podcast. "He's played less than 25 games for Manchester United but he's had an impact on Southgate and has been promoted into the first team."

Aged 18 years and 342 days, Mainoo became the third-youngest United player to start a game for England, behind Duncan Edwards(18y 183d) and Marcus Rashford (18y 209d).

"Quite often from an international point of view, we're guilty of promoting players too young and they don't even make it off the bench," added Robinson. "This isn't the case with Mainoo. He's come into the side and straight into the starting line-up. There might be players missing through injury but he's made a real case to be included in the Euro squad."

Genuinely thought that was parody. Reads like something off The Daily Mash.

[elbow]

Hyping up Utd players you say?

How about an interview with a player who made one appearance for Utd.

I've you've ever wondered what happened to.......checks notes.....James Weir. No, me neither.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/25/james-weir-my-manchester-united-debut-was-an-out-of-body-experience-i-wouldnt-change-that-for-anything

[Peabee]

Hyping up Utd players you say?

How about an interview with a player who made one appearance for Utd.

I've you've ever wondered what happened to.......checks notes.....James Weir. No, me neither.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/25/james-weir-my-manchester-united-debut-was-an-out-of-body-experience-i-wouldnt-change-that-for-anything

Haha, he played a total of one minute and he's being interviewed about it.

I love this bit:

"A history of playing alongside stars helped abroad, one club providing a social media test to get players to phone their most famous contact. Sadly for Weir, Rashford had changed his number..."