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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2010, 03:08:01 pm »
What is the blood sugar scale and what is a normal reading ?

The scale measures the amount of glucose per unit of measurement in your blood. The UK mainly uses the milimoles per liter unit.
On there, a 'normal'

Fasting reading (taken in the morning without eating anything) / about two hours after a meal: around 4 - 6
After a meal: It's ok to go up to 8. But it should go back to the 'normal' range after two hours.

I've been told by diabetes specialists that damage to your body (nerves, blood vessels) start occuring after '8'. So the idea should be to keep your glucose levels under that for as long a period of time as possible.

For diabetics, there is supposedly a different scale, they give leeway up to 11 but I personally think it's bull. If the idea is that damage occurs after 8, then strive to keep it under 8.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2010, 03:08:03 pm »
What is the blood sugar scale and what is a normal reading ?
I´m not sure about the UK Vic, but in Germany it´s 100mg per 100 ml of blood. I converted that and concluded that about 6.0 is normal in the UK?
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2010, 03:13:47 pm »
i was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 14 years ago when i was 13. at that time i never thought i'd be able to give myself four injections a day, but very quickly it just became a part of life. i struggled more with checking my sugar levels consistently and maintaining a healthy diet. that led to poor blood sugar level control and that continued right throughout my teenage years. i got a lot better once i got to early twenties, it was amazing the difference a full time job and routine made to my diabetes. but my control still wasn't perfect.

a couple of years ago a nurse in the diabetic clinic i attend in my local hospital mentioned a course they were offering to people with type 1 diabetes called DAFNE (Doseage Adjustment For Normal Eating). I was on the waiting list for the course for 18 months and finally got to go on it this time last year along with 7 other diabetics. The course was 5 days long and delivered by the specialist diabetic nurses and doctors in the hospital. I initially thought five full days would be a bit much but after completing the course it was easy to see why you needed all that time.

Without wanting to be over-dramatic, i can't express enough how much this course has changed my life. The course taught me how to use my insulin to suit my lifestyle rather than letting it dictate what i do. It has improved my control no end and has lowered my HBA1C to a much more normal level.

I would recommend this course to any diabetic. You should ask your local hospital if they offer it. Be wary though, you might have to wait a while to get a place on it.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2010, 03:59:41 pm »
thank you all for some of the info you have posted...means alot...

heads still battered but....there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.....

the nurse already mentioned the DAFNE course...but she also said lets see where your at for a few days/weeks before we try to much in one go.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2010, 04:57:16 pm »
Good luck with it mate, you´ll see, it´ll become second nature and a piece of piss.
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2010, 05:41:07 pm »
I´m not sure about the UK Vic, but in Germany it´s 100mg per 100 ml of blood. I converted that and concluded that about 6.0 is normal in the UK?

got the results of my test here with me, GLUCOSA;c, 122mg/dL   (74- 105)  GLICOHEMOGLOBINA;x  6,5%  (3,5-6,1). can anybody tell me what that means
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2010, 05:54:54 pm »
got the results of my test here with me, GLUCOSA;c, 122mg/dL   (74- 105)  GLICOHEMOGLOBINA;x  6,5%  (3,5-6,1). can anybody tell me what that means

Done in a hospital in Spain vic?

I assume the test sample was given after a period of fasting?

If so, the first bit should be your fasting blood glucose - 122 or 6.7 which is ok, but about borderline.

The second bit is the HbA1c test, which measures the glucose concentrations in your blood over a period of time (it's done on a 3 months basis in my mom's clinic). Again, a rating of 6.5 % is just slightly above the ideal range listed there but under 7 % is considered good.



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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2010, 06:34:09 pm »
Done in a hospital in Spain vic?

I assume the test sample was given after a period of fasting?

If so, the first bit should be your fasting blood glucose - 122 or 6.7 which is ok, but about borderline.

The second bit is the HbA1c test, which measures the glucose concentrations in your blood over a period of time (it's done on a 3 months basis in my mom's clinic). Again, a rating of 6.5 % is just slightly above the ideal range listed there but under 7 % is considered good.


Yep mate done in Spain and thanks for that, stopped me worrying a little, I know have to make an appointment at my local clinic to see the nurse. I presume she will give me a diet sheet for diabetics and do the finger thing (sticking a needle in my finger)
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2010, 07:35:28 pm »
I keep meaning to go and get myself tested. My dad and mum have diabetes.
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2010, 08:48:13 pm »
I keep meaning to go and get myself tested. My dad and mum have diabetes.

couldnt believe how quick it gets done

must have been 30 secs for a water test in the docs...

the blood tester ive been given now takes about 10 secs.
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2010, 07:47:53 am »
I keep meaning to go and get myself tested. My dad and mum have diabetes.

You can get it done at some pharmacies these days.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2010, 12:46:30 pm »
 My diabetes is hereditary, so I would get it checked if I were you.
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2010, 06:20:49 pm »
My diabetes is hereditary, so I would get it checked if I were you.

Apparently mine too, father and brother
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2010, 06:27:44 pm »
Just out of curiosity has anbody tried any kinds of therapy like Qi Gong or Yoga?
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2010, 06:29:43 pm »
FWIW, my dad has had diabetes for about 10 years. He is overweight, with high cholesterol, etc and is 80 now. But he has done a good job of keeping it under control by altering his diet -- and that says a lot because my dad is not the workout warrior, health-conscious type. He has not needed shots. It's been less of a burden than any of us had imagined.  So pretty good news. Don't get too down on yourself, no matter what the diagnosis. Just do what the docs say. :)
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2010, 06:38:02 pm »
Here's a few Asanas.

Type II Diabetes and Yoga

Type I diabetes is caused by the inability of the pancreas to produce insulin. In Type II diabetes, the pancreas can still produce insulin but the function of the insulin is not as effective as it should. Type II diabetes is mainly caused due to stress-related diseases and other lifestyle factors. This can be checked with regular practice of yoga and meditation.

•Pranayama for Diabetes:  Nadi Shodhan Pranayama or alternate nostril breathing is suggested to have calming effect on our nervous system. This can help in reducing stress, thereby helping in treating type II diabetes. ( Don't try this alon find  a Yogi or Yogini who is trained )

•Yoga Asanas for Diabetes: Various types of asanas – Dhanurasana ( Bow pose), Vajrasana, Halasana, half spinal twist, Pavana muktasana etc can help in muscle relaxation and in stretching and toning the internal organs such as pancreas, liver, etc. This can increase blood supply and oxygen supply to the internal organs, thereby improving their overall activities and treating type II diabetes.













•Sun Salutation for Diabetes: It is suggested that through increased blood supply, sun salutation may improve the activity of insulin in the cells. This may treat type II diabetes.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2010, 09:06:33 pm »
Here's some information on Qi Gong and Diabeties.

My knowledge on Qi Gong compared to Yoga is pretty minimal to say the least. Have a gander anyway!

http://www.damo-qigong.net/diabetes.htm
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2010, 10:40:16 am »

The body is designed to heal itself. This is something that modern medicine doesn't want you to know.

Give it a go but consult your Doctoer before hand.


this guy will make some claims as to the efficiency of yoga and pranayama that some may find surprising.

Baba Ramdev -Yoga for Diabetes

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2010, 01:23:39 pm »
Cheers Kesey and Rorus, will deffo check that out. My mum does the Qi Gong and swears by it.
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #59 on: December 1, 2010, 05:34:41 pm »
Any exercise that depletes glycogen in the muscles will help improve insulin sensitivity and with the symptoms of diabetes.  Diet is most crucial.  Why eat anything that causes a spike in blood sugar and requires insulin injections. A high carbohydrate diet for a diabetic is madness. 

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2010, 02:01:32 pm »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24716880/ns/health-diabetes/

Too long to post on here. It's by a columnist for Men's health, who was diagnosed with borderline diabetes. Fit as you can be. He analyses it. Quite informative.


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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2010, 03:41:46 pm »
Any exercise that depletes glycogen in the muscles will help improve insulin sensitivity and with the symptoms of diabetes.  Diet is most crucial.  Why eat anything that causes a spike in blood sugar and requires insulin injections. A high carbohydrate diet for a diabetic is madness.
I was told that the carbohydrates increase the affect of the natural insulin in my body and speed up the supply. And my blood sugar results over the last few months have been nothing but positive.
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Re: Diabetes
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110126161835.htm

Potential 'Cure' for Type 1 Diabetes?
ScienceDaily (Jan. 27, 2011) — Type 1 diabetes could be converted to an asymptomatic, non-insulin-dependent disorder by eliminating the actions of a specific hormone, new findings by UT Southwestern Medical Center researchers suggest.

These findings in mice show that insulin becomes completely superfluous and its absence does not cause diabetes or any other abnormality when the actions of glucagon are suppressed. Glucagon, a hormone produced by the pancreas, prevents low blood sugar levels in healthy individuals. It causes high blood sugar in people with type 1 diabetes.

"We've all been brought up to think insulin is the all-powerful hormone without which life is impossible, but that isn't the case," said Dr. Roger Unger, professor of internal medicine and senior author of the study appearing online and in the February issue of Diabetes. "If diabetes is defined as restoration of glucose homeostasis to normal, then this treatment can perhaps be considered very close to a 'cure.' "

Insulin treatment has been the gold standard for type 1 diabetes (insulin-dependent diabetes) in humans since its discovery in 1922. But even optimal regulation of type 1 diabetes with insulin alone cannot restore normal glucose tolerance. These new findings demonstrate that the elimination of glucagon action restores glucose tolerance to normal.

Normally, glucagon is released when the glucose, or sugar, level in the blood is low. In insulin deficiency, however, glucagon levels are inappropriately high and cause the liver to release excessive amounts of glucose into the bloodstream. This action is opposed by insulin, which directs the body's cells to remove sugar from the bloodstream.

Dr. Unger's laboratory research previously found that insulin's benefit resulted from its suppression of glucagon.

In type 1 diabetes, which affects about 1 million people in the U.S., the pancreatic islet cells that produce insulin are destroyed. As a countermeasure to this destruction, type 1 diabetics currently must take insulin multiple times a day to metabolize blood sugar, regulate blood-sugar levels and prevent diabetic coma. They also must adhere to strict dietary restrictions.

In this study, UT Southwestern scientists tested how mice genetically altered to lack working glucagon receptors responded to an oral glucose tolerance test. The test -- which can be used to diagnose diabetes, gestational diabetes and prediabetes -- measures the body's ability to metabolize, or clear, glucose from the bloodstream.

The researchers found that the mice with normal insulin production but without functioning glucagon receptors responded normally to the test. The mice also responded normally when their insulin-producing beta cells were destroyed. The mice had no insulin or glucagon action, but they did not develop diabetes.

"These findings suggest that if there is no glucagon, it doesn't matter if you don't have insulin," said Dr. Unger, who is also a physician at the Dallas VA Medical Center. "This does not mean insulin is unimportant. It is essential for normal growth and development from neonatal to adulthood. But in adulthood, at least with respect to glucose metabolism, the role of insulin is to control glucagon.

"And if you don't have glucagon, then you don't need insulin."

Dr. Young Lee, assistant professor of internal medicine at UT Southwestern and lead author of the study, said the next step is to determine the mechanism behind this result.

"Hopefully, these findings will someday help those with type 1 diabetes," Dr. Lee said. "If we can find a way to block the actions of glucagon in humans, then maybe we can minimize the need for insulin therapy."

Dr. Unger said anything that reduces the need for injected insulin is a positive.

"Matching the high insulin levels needed to reach glucagon cells with insulin injections is possible only with amounts that are excessive for other tissues," he said. "Peripherally injected insulin cannot accurately duplicate the normal process by which the body produces and distributes insulin. If these latest findings were to work in humans, injected insulin would no longer be necessary for people with type 1 diabetes."

Dr. May-Yun Wang, assistant professor of internal medicine at UT Southwestern, and researchers from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine also contributed to the work.

The study was supported in part by the VA North Texas Health Care System, the American Diabetes Association and the National Institutes of Health.

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Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2011, 08:08:59 pm »
Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
British study finds two-month extreme diet can cure type 2 diabetes and overturns assumptions about 'lifelong' condition

People who have had obesity-related type 2 diabetes for years have been cured, at least temporarily, by keeping to an extreme, low-calorie, diet for two months, scientists report today.

The discovery, reported by scientists at Newcastle University, overturns previous assumptions about type 2 diabetes, which was thought to be a lifelong illness.

In the UK about two and a half million people have been diagnosed with diabetes, the large majority with type 2, and numbers are rising across much of the world. The condition has to be controlled with drugs and eventually insulin injections. It can cause blindness and end in foot amputation, as well as shortening life.

The results of the Newcastle investigation, though the study was small, demonstrated that full recovery was possible, not through drugs but through diet.

Eleven people with diabetes took part in the study, which was funded by Diabetes UK. They had to slash their food intake to just 600 calories a day for two months. But three months later seven of the 11 were free of diabetes.

"To have people free of diabetes after years with the condition is remarkable – and all because of an eight-week diet," said Roy Taylor, professor at Newcastle University, who led the study. "This is a radical change in understanding type 2 diabetes. It will change how we can explain it to people newly diagnosed with the condition. While it has long been believed that someone with type 2 diabetes will always have the disease, and that it will steadily get worse, we have shown that we can reverse the condition."

Type 2 diabetes, which used to be known as adult onset, is caused by too much glucose in the blood. It is strongly linked to obesity, unlike type 1, which usually develops in children whose bodies are unable to make the hormone insulin to convert glucose from food into energy. They need daily insulin injections.

The research, presented today at the American Diabetes Association conference, shows that an extremely low-calorie diet, consisting of diet drinks and non-starchy vegetables, prompts the body to remove the fat clogging the pancreas and preventing it from making insulin.

The volunteers were closely supervised by a medical team and matched with the same number of volunteers with diabetes who did not get the special diet. After just one week into the study, the pre-breakfast blood sugar levels of the study group had returned to normal. And MRI scans showed that the fat levels in the pancreas had returned to normal. The pancreas regained its ability to make insulin.

After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes.

Taylor, the director of the Newcastle Magnetic Resonance Centre, had the idea for the study after it was shown that diabetes was reversed in people who had undergone stomach stapling or other forms of bariatric surgery because of obesity. "What was remarkable was that the diabetes went away over the course of one week. It was widely believed the operation itself had done something, [that] the hormones in the gut were thought to be the cause. That is almost universally believed."

Taylor thought the massive drop in calorie intake after surgery could be responsible and to test this hypothesis set up the study, which included MRI scans of the pancreas to look at any changes in the fatty deposits.

"We believe this shows that type 2 diabetes is all about energy balance in the body," said Taylor. "If you are eating more than you burn, then the excess is stored in the liver and pancreas as fat, which can lead to type 2 diabetes in some people. What we need to examine further is why some people are more susceptible to developing diabetes than others."

He warned that only a minority of people, perhaps 5% or 10%, would be able to stick to the harsh diet necessary to get rid of diabetes. But even that, he said, would dramatically improve the health of many people and save the NHS millions.

Iain Frame, director of research at Diabetes UK, said people should not embark on such a diet without a doctor's approval and help. "We welcome the results of this research because it shows that type 2 diabetes can be reversed, on a par with successful surgery without the side effects.

"However, this diet is not an easy fix and Diabetes UK strongly recommends that such a drastic diet should only be undertaken under medical supervision. Despite [it] being a very small trial, we look forward to future results, particularly to see whether the reversal remains long term."

Gordon Parmley, 67, of Stocksfield, Newcastle upon Tyne, a trial participant, said he first noticed something was wrong when his vision went "fuzzy" and he had trouble focusing while playing golf. He had been on medication since being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes six years ago.

He said: "When my doctor mentioned the trial I thought I'd give it a go, as it might help me and other diabetics. I came off my tablets and had three diet shakes a day and some salad or vegetables, but it was very, very, difficult and I'm not sure I'd have done it without the support of my wife, who went on a diet alongside me.

" At first the hunger was quite severe and I had to distract myself with something else – walking the dog, playing golf, or doing anything to occupy myself and take my mind off food. But I lost an astounding amount of weight in a short space of time.

"At the end of the trial I was told my insulin levels were normal, and after six years I no longer needed my diabetes tablets. Still today, 18 months on, I don't take them.

"It's astonishing really that a diet – hard as it was – could change my health so drastically. After six years of having diabetes I can tell the difference. I feel better, even walking round the golf course is easier."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/24/low-calorie-diet-hope-cure-diabetes


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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2011, 10:11:11 pm »
"It's astonishing really that a diet – hard as it was – could change my health so drastically. After six years of having diabetes I can tell the difference. I feel better, even walking round the golf course is easier."

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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2011, 10:13:42 pm »
I think it's more a question of the sort of diet. More a sharp, shock to the system rather than a long term change in lifestyle.
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2011, 10:44:28 pm »
I'd always thought this might be possible (spider sense) interesting to see this is true.

The fact it refersmto amreductionmin fat around the pancreas might actually mean that any sustained diet would work....more research required....
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2011, 12:33:53 am »
I think it's more a question of the sort of diet. More a sharp, shock to the system rather than a long term change in lifestyle.
Very interesting article.

Without knowing more details, but I'd go along with your theory. For one, the 'long term change in lifestye' including normal 'healthy eating' has been tried numrous times, without leading to these results, right? Diet advice is pretty standard for anyone with diabetes i think.

But, 90%-95% of people wouldn't be able to stick to such a diet for 8 weeks? What? 8 weeks of being hungry vs a lifetime of pills, injections, bood tests, feeling shit, and possible blindness and amputation? Really?
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2011, 12:37:04 am »
Correct, diabetes is a big problem in the Middle East and they advise changing your diet to every single person. Someone would've noticed somewhere if diabetes was 'cured' in a person under normal circumstances but I'd never heard of it before.

I think 600 calories is very drastic and certainly something you'd need careful monitoring for. I fast every year so the idea of only having that much isn't so far fetched but that doesn't mean it's easy.

Definitely like to see a wider trial.
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2011, 12:52:01 am »
Yes, it certainly wouldn't be easy. But if (big IF) these figures hold in a larger study, a nearly 70% success rate would be quite a big incentive for the NHS (or health insurance companies) to pay for an 8-week stay at some sort of clinic for those that can't do it on their own.

The bigger problem would probably be keeping it off long-term. The article mentions 'healthy eating' afterwards, and I can see this being a bigger problem than doing an 8-week course. There might be quite a high rate of people having some sort of  'relapse', probably years later on.
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2011, 12:56:28 am »
That's the thing, I'm not sure what constitutes a 'relapse'. When they say healthy eating, what does that mean? Is keeping fit enough? The sample size is far too small but the results aren't so insignificant to ignore.

I think it's worth the NHS' while to trial this nationally because as long as the diet is monitored, the risks should be minimal.
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2011, 01:21:56 am »
Defo needs a larger study. Had a look around, this doesn't even seem to be a peer-reviewed article yet,  but only a conference contribution (here). Hope they follow it up.
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2011, 01:31:55 am »
I don't think they would've said anything if they weren't going somewhere with it - I doubt they'd risk letting someone else get in there before them.
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2011, 10:16:12 pm »
Would be interested to see the results of a trial that maintained the 70g carbohydrate but increased fat and protein intake to around 1800 calories a day.  More sustainable than 600 calories but maintains the stable, low blood glucose. 

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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2011, 05:19:33 am »
Thanks for posting this.

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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2011, 08:45:28 am »
I'll get my mate to read this as he is a diabetic, not sure which sort as never realised there was diferent types.

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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2011, 02:05:38 pm »
Would be interested to see the results of a trial that maintained the 70g carbohydrate but increased fat and protein intake to around 1800 calories a day.  More sustainable than 600 calories but maintains the stable, low blood glucose.

Well you'd hope that a wider trial would have different groups, surely if they had the numbers then they could develop plans for different diets?
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2011, 10:26:51 pm »
when i low carb diet my levels are alot more stable but the issue is getting enough protein....

hardest part was cutting carbs... helps with lower amounts of insulin too... therefore less area to mess up and go hypo/hyper....
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Re: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes
« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2011, 10:37:20 pm »
my dad was diagnosed with having type 2 last year and was advised to take pills as its a big thing in Asian men  mainly due to their unhealthy diet and eating times (dad finished work at 9 and would end up eating a curry at 10 then go to bed around 10.30)   but dad was determined not to take the pills so against his doctors advice my dad never took his pills and instead went on a diet not a drastic diet like the one above but instead cuttin out all fried food and going for 3 mile walks every day also stopped eating after 8pm  4 weeks later his suger levels had dropped below 7 and so a do think its possible my dads proof it works

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2011, 09:29:06 pm »
Just bumped this thread, i have recently been diagnosed with  type 2 (non-insulin-dependent) diabetes,but the metformin is not working sugar levels at 21.3 so looks like its going to be insulin soon.
My question if any of you are type 1 whats takin insulin like IE side effects as i get lots with metformin now so any info from fellow Rawkites would be welcomed.