Taking more of a harsh position here.
First Moreno fuck-up at Man City after a nearly flawless first half defensively (2013/14?) --- Jovetic back doors him ---> was important time in the game - and the differential went from one point for LFC to losing three. Someone show where/what he is learning.. Little progress.
Rodgers played him many a time and ended up going with Gomez --- now for all of Rodgers bluster, tiki talk, I felt he got this one right. With his job on the line, Moreno was on the bench until injuries arose. There were countless errors in the Champions League season --- but as Timbo correctly points out by far our biggest issue was not have an attacking presence - which included injuries.
Last year, I started to count (because of conversations like this one) how many times Moreno contributed to a major league fuck up leading to a goal. It was way over 10. Some of the more memorable ones include not getting out to block service on a cross against Dortmund. Or better yet, not getting the front of Ramirez as he ran through our box leading to 1-0 deficit at the Bridge.
And really I have yet to get started with the number of two-footed tackles and recklessness (inevitably which will lead to red cards), stupidity of when/how to get forward (like continental drift forward) exposing our left side to a counter.
While there are at least 10 more instances I believe I have documented previously, I am not inclined to give A Moreno the benefit of the doubt --- First, the Villarreal game at their place was a MONUMENTAL fuckup.... All we needed was a draw and he is bursting forward in the last few minutes as if he is an attacking player with skill. He is neither a talented an attacker nor is adept at picking out the last pass ----> speed makes up for a lot I suppose.
And the piece de resistance was the 2nd half of the Europa Cup final --- against his former team nonetheless. While this is a team game and many factors play into why one player gets exposed and other players do not, I was already convinced before we kicked off at Arsenal that Moreno is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The sample size of games, and his inability to learn from his mistakes means we are all susceptible to the how many more fuck ups is it going to take to get to the end of this lollypop.
Yesterday was more of the same. Some try to polish up this as a mechanism of hope, and normally I enjoy this function here at RAWK because we all sure as hell could use a bit more of it.
However, the biggest thing that kills teams, as I have said before, is soft goals. It deflated us in Europa Cup final, and towards the end of a tiring season last year during our finish. It is a killer to team chemistry, and defensive confidence which thrives on predictability/repetition.
We cannot afford to play Moreno in meaningful games. Reclamation projects should be done at clubs who are not Liverpool. Imagine having a steady defensive minded left back, who does not get beat, gets forward occasionally and could help us on set plays? That is the type of player I want to see, not this Faux-offensive left footed maniac who is struggling with little man's disease.
Now, I defer to Klopp, who probably see Moreno as a back-up. But we cannot compete for the top 4 with Moreno starting at left back. If this is the case, I will have a burst vein in forehead every weekend and we'll have to score 4 goals every fucking week.
Okay.... I'm listening to contrary opinions --- does not mean I will shift though. Pretty firm on this.