Topic: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard

[It's Jimmy Corkhill]

Disrespectful and pathetic. Apparently.

[Black Bull Nova]

Last year Liverpool played the best football I've seen since I started supporting the club, despite the fact we won nothing.


2009/10 We got 63 points, got to the SF of the Europa league and scored 61v35 in the PL, Rafa was hounded out despite his previous record

2011/12 We got 52 points, won the LC, lost 2-1 to Chelsea in the FA cup final, in the league beat Arsenal, Chelsea (x2) and drew with City and Utd at home, scored 47v40 in the PL, Dalglish was dumped by FSG despite winning a cup and his previous record

2014/15 We got 62 points, dumped by Villa in the FA semi, poorest season in Europe I can remember but beat City in the league, scored 52v48 in the PL

[TepidT2O]

Well, I'll give it this.....


It's stopped everyone whinging in the sterling thread

[ScouserAtHeart]

Rewatch then the 11 game winning run in the business end of the last season. It`s the same players.

With 1 minor exception of course. Louie something

[Mighty_Red]

Every game matters, every single one.

I want players to fight when there's nothing to fight for.

Absolutely, even when we are at our lowest ebb, I'd rather the players show some evidence that they can turn things around. The last two results coupled with losing to a side that have just been relegated is really awful.

Owners have to assess everything to make improvements, not just one or two superficial changes.

[It's Jimmy Corkhill]

Rewatch then the 11 game winning run in the business end of the last season. It`s the same players.

Eh? There's a certain genius in Catalonia who was the brightest spark burning for the shortest time at Anfield.

[LiverBirdKop]

I hope FSG do more extensive research then you mate!
(I'm joking of course, just the way you phrased that made me picture John Henry Linda Pizzuti scouring Klopp's Wikipedia entry or something)

[mattD]

1) As long as Ayre is around, Rafa isn't coming back;
2) Even if Ayre wasn't around, Rafa wouldn't be coming back;
3) Rafa isn't coming back.

As long as Ayre is around, we are forever fucked.

[tommy LFC]

As we're allowed to talk about Rafa....

I want him back. There, I said it.

Without sounding like a love sick school girl, it felt right with him and it has never felt the same since.

The only reason i want Rodgers gone is if it's for Rafa.

I just absolutely love everything to do with the man.

[HighSix]

8 points out of the last 27 on offer. Knocked out of the cup by a piss poor villa. Hammered by Stoke. Fucking Stoke.

He's gone I hope.

& yet just 8 off United! 

[FlashingBlade]

No.

I was at Villa game in the mid 70's when we were getting beat 5-1 at half time...was a good night too.

Listened to it on the Radio and was in shock.....but never doubted for a moment my team was the greatest in the world....as was proved.

O! to be 15 and not  to be 54

Edit ..O! to be 15 in 1976...with the knowledge of  54  year old.......

[SerbianScouser]

Eh? There's a certain genius in Catalonia who was the brightest spark burning for the shortest time at Anfield.

We also had him when we were 7th for 2 years.

[QC]

Rewatch then the 11 game winning run in the business end of the last season. It`s the same players.

They had Suarez leading the line. He was a leader on the pitch.

[robgomm]

I don't want him gone, I want to bury this season and move onto the next one. I still have faith in the guy.

That performance, though, was a shocker. A true shocker. I'm stunned and appalled by the players. Brendan looks heartbroken. It's on him, ultimately, he's responsible for them. But they've let him and us down with that today, more than anything else this season - even the cup.

This is a huge low and the feeling is pretty hopeless but I remain of the view that Rodgers can swing this around. I'm not sure he'll get the chance and it's hard to defend the disgrace of today. I won't slate FSG if they sack him but whomever would come in has to work with a bunch of guys who are capable of that rubbish. I'm gutted as there's a lot of players there I like and respect but how can they defend that? I don't want us to be a Spurs or whoever, new cycle every two years. Unless there's more going on in the dressing room than we know, if I was in charge I'd make a firm statement backing the manager, slating the effort of the players on that day and saying we'll sort it out over summer.

But as it is, we'll have to wait for the end of season review. Whatever happens, that was an absolute shocker today.

[RK7]

Rewatch then the 11 game winning run in the business end of the last season. It`s the same players.

Suarez played a massive part in that.

[Pistolero]

Queue the whiteknights rushing in and saying how hard done by Rafa was by owners and didn't get what he was promised.

are people deliberately trying to out-gobshite each other on here tonight?...

[It's Jimmy Corkhill]

We also had him when we were 7th for 2 years.

It was you who referenced last season when it was his spark that got the momentum behind us. End of. Simple as that.

[Redman0151]

As we're allowed to talk about Rafa....

I want him back. There, I said it.

Without sounding like a love sick school girl, it felt right with him and it has never felt the same since.

The only reason i want Rodgers gone is if it's for Rafa.

I just absolutely love everything to do with the man.

El Alonso's tribute always gets me

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/9OHC7lIfvk4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/9OHC7lIfvk4</a>

[KiNki]

Rafa is going to Madrid.

[Always_A_Red]

If there were Chelsea fans chanting Mourinho's name when Rafa was in charge at Chelsea,would you  be ok with it?

Couldn't give a fuck what those c*nts chant to be honest. You're forgetting that Rafa won a European trophy whilst in charge of Chelsea too.

[Oddball]

Tough trip on the road and I can't see us getting any points there.

[HighSix]

We also had him when we were 7th for 2 years.

I may disagree with most of what you say but credit for sticking to your guns.

[Redman0151]

Rafa is going to Madrid.

And yet some on here would try to tell you he wasn't good enough to come back

[ScouserAtHeart]

We also had him when we were 7th for 2 years.

We also had Rodgers when we finished 7th and 6th. So what's the common denominator then?

[El Lobo]

Rafa won the CL, FA Cup, Super Cup, Community Shield....and was sacked for less

Ged won the UEFA Cup, two League Cups, FA Cup, Super Cup and Community Shield....and was sacked for less

Kenny won the League Cup....and was sacked for less

All under different regimes too.

[QC]

Rafa is going to Madrid.

Maybe he'll send us some of their 'rejects'.

[Dave D]

8 points picked up in the last quarter of the season. Kenny managed 10 points.

It's over boys, we're ripping it up and starting again.

[HighSix]

Rafa is going to Madrid.

Ronaldo & the players are trying to keep Carlo in a job it seemed from social media last night.

[Billy The Kid]

All things considered, I'm still inclined to back Brendan Rodgers

[Deo]

Ultimately it should be the way we/I think. The players should never be able to dictate the position of a manager by not turning up. "If you don't turn up to play your arse off when you're in a Liverpool shirt, you best fuck off because the manager is staying" should be the mantra.

And how is it that we have players not turning up in the first place? That's some mid-table level mentality right there. Things shouldn't come to this situation in the first place.

If the owners think they can fix this any other way, the fine by me. But I don't think they know how to besides getting rid of Rodgers.

[tommy LFC]

Rafa is going to Madrid.

I'm sure we could change his mind.

[Black Bull Nova]

As long as Ayre is around, we are forever fucked.

Not sure who died and left Ian Ayre a football club, he's an employee for god sake, he does as he's told or he fucks off

[Kopenhagen]

Fuck. 

Bunch of shithouses to let Gerrard go out like this.

9-2 on aggregate. Fucking hell.

[Samie]

Maybe he'll send us some of their 'rejects'.

Isco. 

[LFC when it suits]

Ultimately it should be the way we/I think. The players should never be able to dictate the position of a manager by not turning up. "If you don't turn up to play your arse off when you're in a Liverpool shirt, you best fuck off because the manager is staying" should be the mantra.

But at the same time, it's easier to change the manager than to change the whole squad. it should be the managers job to make sure most of the players are on side with him and want to run through a brick wall for him. We just haven't been seeing since we lost to Arsenal. I would no be surprised at all if he has alienated many of the players with his favouritism.

[Skidder.]

1. Rafa Benitez isn't coming back - The sooner people get used to it, the sooner the support for the club can move along.
2. Stoke have always been out bum team, now they're our "no-lube" team.
3. In case you missed it: Brendan Rodgers: "I want to stay at the club and I think I can do great things here - But if the owners don't want me here, I will willingly fuck off!" (sic)

[Anywhichwayicant]

Liverpool or Real Madrid.


There's only one plane ticket Rafa would be buying.

[rocco]

Disrespectful and pathetic. Apparently.

Why ?

[kasperoff]

It's a sad day. For me Rodgers had the team playing as well as any other team last year and for a period this season. However his job is to win games and far too often when we were in important matches we just caved in. The way we rolled over in the last two games was just embarrassing.

I really cannot see any way forward and expect an announcement. All he needed to do was to finish the season reasonably well and then ask for support in transfers. Now I have lost all faith in him and the only solution for me is to change. However the change must be better and must be supported by some real ambition by the owners.

It was the Villa game for me. Pathetic rollover against VIlla at Wembley FFS. Making Delhi look like a 25 yo Steven Gerrard. Similar today making N'Zonzi look like Viera. It's fucking embarrassing that such average players have stomped all over our midfield lately.

[jillcwhomever]

I don't want him gone, I want to bury this season and move onto the next one. I still have faith in the guy.

That performance, though, was a shocker. A true shocker. I'm stunned and appalled by the players. Brendan looks heartbroken. It's on him, ultimately, he's responsible for them. But they've let him and us down with that today, more than anything else this season - even the cup.

This is a huge low and the feeling is pretty hopeless but I remain of the view that Rodgers can swing this around. I'm not sure he'll get the chance and it's hard to defend the disgrace of today. I won't slate FSG if they sack him but whomever would come in has to work with a bunch of guys who are capable of that rubbish. I'm gutted as there's a lot of players there I like and respect but how can they defend that? I don't want us to be a Spurs or whoever, new cycle every two years. Unless there's more going on in the dressing room than we know, if I was in charge I'd make a firm statement backing the manager, skating the effort of the players on that day and saying we'll sort it out over summer.

But as it is, we'll have to wait for the end of season review. Whatever happens, that was an absolute shocker today.

+1. The players were a disgrace and how any of them can look the manager or the fans who went in the face, I just don't know. I would make them all hand their wages over for that game.