Haha, I'm the one bringing him into everything? I'm clearly replying to all those who still seem to be supporting him over Roy and doing the comparisons.
I still hold hope that we'll get Rafa back one day with a stable board to support him. But at the moment, Roy Hodgson is our manager. He's doing shite, but what I don't understand is why he's getting lambasted, whereas on the next line people yearn for Rafa- a manager who didn't do much better last season (obviously last season's a natural comparison point).
IN 'our' defence - and I think I speak for quite a few Rafa fans here - on a pure 'enjoyment of football' level, I preferred Rafa's teams to Roy's, even in defeat. I never, or at least, hardly ever, came away from Rafa games feeling like we're going to deeply struggle even before the teams are named - under Roy I called what would happen against Brum, which totally reinforced my thought that we'd get done against Utd today, and we've been done in exactly the way I predicted both times (IE, screwed from crosses because both teams love to cross it and we're set up in a way that gives teams freedom to cross it in).
If you were a fan of Rafas, and not someone inclined to support the manager just because he is the manager, and you therefore really liked Rafa's tactical approach (again, not saying it's the be all and end all), it seems totally consistent to me to have issues, and big ones, with Roy's approach.
To be extra fair a lot of the sound posters who aren't giving Roy much time or patience pretty much called exactly this kind of football if he were to be appointed. I don't see why someone who supported the last manager, didn't rate Roy, didn't want him here, expected the dross football and hence results we've had so far, should ignore those (seemingly) well founded and accurate doubts and criticisms when the results haven't even been anything to write home about.
Unless you're a fan of Roy in particular, or his style of play as you've seen it unfold thus far, the only compelling reason to give him huge support is because that's how things are done, that's the 'Liverpool Way' - but again, it gets a LOT harder to believe in that when the new manager is self evidently the appointee of a board who couldn't give two fucks about the Liverpool Way, and wouldn't give a fuck even if it were expained to them in the most eloquent means possible.
I'm not saying it's right to 'lambast' Roy, and after my initial doubts I'd like to think I'm at least trying (though not necessarily succeeding) to be as positive as I can while still being honest and realistic, but it doesn't seem to me to be a hard thing to understand - it makes complete sense, rightly or wrongly.
EDIT:
If there's a group who doesn't make sense to me it's the shills who lambasted Rafa for his 'negative' tactics and 'stubborness' who, thus far, are very loudly supporting Roy and urging us all to remember the 'Liverpool Way', which they felt no need to apply to Rafa whatsoever.
I get where they were coming from with Rafa, what I don't get is why they like Roy so much thus far - though I expect that'll be changing hugely if we don't get much better results very soon.
