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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #360 on: September 17, 2010, 02:27:20 am »
4-1 sounds like a hiding, were we that good or were they that shit?

Gift of a first goal, shitty 1st half much much better 2nd half. Lucas scored a cracker@!

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #361 on: September 17, 2010, 02:27:47 am »
No gerrard, torres, carra, kuyt we win 4-1 in europe and people still moan. what has our fan base become.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #362 on: September 17, 2010, 02:27:47 am »
4-1 sounds like a hiding, were we that good or were they that shit?

In the first half certainly not. The scoreline flattered us for sure, but we did deserve to win the game.

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #363 on: September 17, 2010, 02:30:18 am »
I know you're not alone with your opinion but when was the last time he had a really poor game or cost us. I'd just about have to go to before Christmas last year to think of more than the very rare occasion.

I dont want to get into a Carra debate in this thread mate but even him being in the team changes the dynamic of how the team plays as a unit to make up for his deficiencies.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #364 on: September 17, 2010, 02:32:05 am »
I dont want to get into a Carra debate in this thread mate but even him being in the team changes the dynamic of how the team plays as a unit to make up for his deficiencies.


Serious question as I didn't watch the game today but how many hoof balls did we see this match? Or did we play it out from the back more often mot?

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #365 on: September 17, 2010, 02:33:46 am »
I dont want to get into a Carra debate in this thread mate but even him being in the team changes the dynamic of how the team plays as a unit to make up for his deficiencies.


Whatever about the offensive dynamics of a Liverpool team shorn of Carra, their goal tonight was a little soft, whether our line wasn't great, or the gap between kelly and soto was too big, it seemed a bit of a gift. I don't know would it have gone in if Carra had been on the pitch.

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #366 on: September 17, 2010, 02:35:43 am »
Gift of a first goal, shitty 1st half much much better 2nd half. Lucas scored a cracker@!
In the first half certainly not. The scoreline flattered us for sure, but we did deserve to win the game.
Both sound like fair appraisals. Made up Lucas scored, if there is one player who needs a confidence booster, it's him.

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #367 on: September 17, 2010, 02:37:26 am »
Serious question as I didn't watch the game today but how many hoof balls did we see this match? Or did we play it out from the back more than often?

From memory...not too many. I think the problem is halved when Danny Agger.

I thought we played it out much more often. That said....there was a lot more movement with Meireles and Spearing making themselves available.....as did Maxi and Babel......as did Martin Kelly and Konchesky. There were more out balls there tonight in the second half than there were in the whole match at Brum (could of been down to Brums better pressing).
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #368 on: September 17, 2010, 02:38:29 am »
Didn't see the match, but incredibly mixed bag of ratings here. Everyone seems to have their own MotM, and different people rate or don't rate Ngog, Maxi, Konchesky, Babel. Take your pick! Only Cole, Meireles, Kelly and Agger seem to be consistently getting praise

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #369 on: September 17, 2010, 02:39:39 am »
From memory...not too many. I think the problem is halved when Danny Agger.

I thought we played it out much more often. That said....there was a lot more movement with Meireles and Spearing making themselves available.....as did Maxi and Babel......as did Martin Kelly and Konchesky. There were more out balls there tonight in the second half than there were in the whole match at Brum (could of been down to Brums better pressing).

Fair enough so it wasn't just the lack of Carra on the pitch but a combination of that and more movement by the front players as well. Thanks appreciate the answer

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #370 on: September 17, 2010, 02:40:36 am »
Whatever about the offensive dynamics of a Liverpool team shorn of Carra, their goal tonight was a little soft, whether our line wasn't great, or the gap between kelly and soto was too big, it seemed a bit of a gift. I don't know would it have gone in if Carra had been on the pitch.

To be fair to them.....the through ball was perfect....and I wouldnt imagine Carra is much quicker than the Greek so I wouldnt imagine it would have gone down much different had Carra been there.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #371 on: September 17, 2010, 02:41:45 am »
No gerrard, torres, carra, kuyt we win 4-1 in europe and people still moan. what has our fan base become.
I blame all them for not even getting a kick tonight.

Did you see Gerrard and Kuyt in the stands enjoying themselves? and Carra couldn't be arsed getting off the bench.
Bin the the fucking lot of them, I say..

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #372 on: September 17, 2010, 02:42:47 am »
To be fair to them.....the through ball was perfect....and I wouldnt imagine Carra is much quicker than the Greek so I wouldnt imagine it would have gone down much different had Carra been there.

Yup it was certainly well executed on their part, and perhaps our midfielders should have been closer to the passer...

Something didn't seem quite right about a striker ghosting into our box with a yard or two of space in that manner, perhaps it was just the unfamiliarity of the back 4.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #373 on: September 17, 2010, 02:44:03 am »
I blame all them for not even getting a kick tonight.

Did you see Gerrard and Kuyt in the stands enjoying themselves? and Carra couldn't be arsed getting off the bench.
Bin the the fucking lot of them, I say..

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #374 on: September 17, 2010, 02:45:22 am »
Fuck me.. Carra wasn't even playing tonight and people are discussing whether we would have conceded or not if he was?

I really fucking despair..   :butt

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #375 on: September 17, 2010, 02:45:55 am »
Didn't see the match, but incredibly mixed bag of ratings here. Everyone seems to have their own MotM, and different people rate or don't rate Ngog, Maxi, Konchesky, Babel. Take your pick! Only Cole, Meireles, Kelly and Agger seem to be consistently getting praise
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #376 on: September 17, 2010, 02:47:03 am »
A so so first half.

But a enjoyable 2nd half 4 - 1.

Lets win by the same on Sunday that will be the real test.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #377 on: September 17, 2010, 02:47:21 am »
Fuck me.. Carra wasn't even playing tonight and people are discussing whether we would have conceded or not if he was?

I really fucking despair..   :butt

Lads discussing football....

Whatever next...eh?
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #378 on: September 17, 2010, 02:48:53 am »
Fuck me.. Carra wasn't even playing tonight and people are discussing whether we would have conceded or not if he was?

I really fucking despair..   :butt

In fairness, I think a lot of people over look the defensive solidity and organisation that Carra brings to the team, whether he loves hoofing or not.

Tonight's goal is probably relevant since it was relatively soft, and a lot of people reckon soto and agger are our best centre back pairing.

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #379 on: September 17, 2010, 02:50:57 am »
Lads discussing football....

Whatever next... eh?

Talking shite?   ;)

We won 4-1 with a second string team against a fairly decent side, for fucks sake..

Enjoy it...eh?

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #380 on: September 17, 2010, 02:54:24 am »
Talking shite?   ;)

We won 4-1 with a second string team against a fairly decent side, for fucks sake..

Enjoy it...eh?

Well I'm delighted with it, especially considering the first half was disappointing...


Also that team we had out tonight are the guys who are going to be pushing the 1st team 11 for starting places next Sunday,

so there is loads of shite for us to talk about, plus it's nearly 3 in the morning and all the worlds problems need solving before bed time.

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #381 on: September 17, 2010, 02:57:05 am »
Torres was shit again

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #382 on: September 17, 2010, 02:57:35 am »
Talking shite?   ;)

We won 4-1 with a second string team against a fairly decent side, for fucks sake..

Enjoy it...eh?

I am enjoying it mate!

Doesn't mean we can rest on out laurels!

There are bigger and tougher challenges ahead.

There was no malice in any of the posts about Carra.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #383 on: September 17, 2010, 02:58:32 am »
Talking shite?   ;)

We won 4-1 with a second string team against a fairly decent side, for fucks sake..

Enjoy it...eh?

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #384 on: September 17, 2010, 02:58:46 am »
Carra was definitely at fault for their goal, wasn't he wearing his Greek suite ?

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #385 on: September 17, 2010, 02:59:54 am »
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #386 on: September 17, 2010, 03:00:52 am »
I didn't watch the whole match, due to arguments with my other half about a Corrie drama on BBC4 (which was shit, by the way...) *smacks head*

Anyway, I did see the highlights and the first 20 minutes..

I love the fact that Joe Cole is really trying his heart out. Meireles looks quality from what I saw and it's nice that Ngog (who I didn't rate in the past) is now scoring goals.

Still didn't see enough of Babel to rate him and I'm still not sure about Maxi Rodriguez.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #387 on: September 17, 2010, 03:04:13 am »
Carra was definitely at fault for their goal, wasn't he wearing his Greek suite ?
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #388 on: September 17, 2010, 03:06:16 am »
Cole was the only player who would take their player on.
Babel especially and partly Maxi kept coming inside, been a while since we had a winger who would take his defender on down the line and cross from the byline.

Their goal was very well taken, great run and finish after a perfectly weighted pass, nothing either centre back or Pepe could do.

We won well in the end, which should up the confidence for the weekend
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« Reply #389 on: September 17, 2010, 03:18:30 am »
I agree that will probably be the case , but Kelly is hammering on the door and i really think he deserves a chance.

Once people realize Carra isn't the player he used to be and that he shouldn't be our first team CB Kelly will get a chance.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #390 on: September 17, 2010, 03:22:47 am »
Yep it's embarrassing, he is so old, they should take him out the back and put him down gently,
what has he ever done for this club ?

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #391 on: September 17, 2010, 03:23:59 am »
I blame all them for not even getting a kick tonight.

Did you see Gerrard and Kuyt in the stands enjoying themselves? and Carra couldn't be arsed getting off the bench.
Bin the the fucking lot of them, I say..

for me, spearing slipped in the build up...wasnt his fault, it was raining a ton....if he had stayed on his feet the passage of play would have been different i think

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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #392 on: September 17, 2010, 03:27:54 am »
Once people realize Carra isn't the player he used to be and that he shouldn't be our first team CB Kelly will get a chance.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #393 on: September 17, 2010, 04:10:28 am »
Once people realize Carra isn't the player he used to be and that he shouldn't be our first team CB Kelly will get a chance.

Are you suggesting Kelly warrants a place in our starting 11 over Carragher? Good lord almighty

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« Reply #394 on: September 17, 2010, 04:27:46 am »
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« Reply #395 on: September 17, 2010, 04:33:27 am »
Spearing looked comfy in his role with Raul.....PLAY NGOG in Europe!  :)
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« Reply #396 on: September 17, 2010, 04:37:13 am »
Spearing looked comfy in his role with Raul.....PLAY NGOG in Europe!  :)

This. Spearing and Meireles did look a great combination. Makes you think we need someone similar to Spearing to play next to him.
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« Reply #397 on: September 17, 2010, 04:50:45 am »
We actually came out and played a bit of football...it cost us a goal playing a higher line, but we scored 4 in return!  I'll take those OT odds any time!  What a cracker from Lucas.  Even Stevie was smiling.
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Re: Liverpool 4-1 Steaua Bucharest: post game revisionism
« Reply #398 on: September 17, 2010, 04:54:26 am »
Considering the team out there last night wouldn't have been used to playing together (and this is Raul's first full game), I'm not surprised it took them a half to settle down and click. They improved tremendously in the second half and were good to watch.

Thought Spearing was good. I always thought he had a good footballing brain, but was too small physically for the PL. The less physical play in Europe suits him.

My hope is that Roy seriously considers some of these players for Sunday. Those rested should not feel they are a shoe-in for Sunday, because, frankly, some of their performances have not been good. Maxi, Raul, maybe Kelly, should play.

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« Reply #399 on: September 17, 2010, 05:11:11 am »
The camera showed  Kenny, Ian Rush and Alan Hansen sitting together.......WOW!  Whatta generation!
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