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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1240 on: February 9, 2009, 03:23:11 pm »
If Fab can do a job in midfield then hopefully that's a nother nail in the coffin of the sign Barry plan.

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« Reply #1241 on: February 9, 2009, 03:23:48 pm »
I think the full quote was to do with passing, not crossing.

Pedantics. His crossing is good anyway.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1242 on: February 9, 2009, 03:24:22 pm »
I'd take the corners and free kicks from wide areas off him, tell him to sit on the edge of the box waiting for a clearance to come his way. Our corners are shite so we couldn't do any worse.
Have Alonso or Aurelio to take wide FK/corners, with Gerrard on the edge of the area to offer a threat from a pulled back corner or clearance, similar to what Scholes does for the Mancs. I am perplexed that this hasn't been tried more, as Stevie strikes a moving ball better than anyone in the world imo.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1243 on: February 9, 2009, 03:25:40 pm »
I knew there was something about his passing ability but I'm buggered if I can find it anywhere!

Anyway, at times on Saturday he was droping his shoulder and spreading the ball the way Alonso does.  It was only one game but I was impressed.  He needs to be able to pass the ball over his own head with a back heel and get a round of applause from Ballack to fully convince me though!

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« Reply #1244 on: February 9, 2009, 03:27:21 pm »
i thought Aurelio was really good in the first half. Was moving around well and passing like Alonso
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1245 on: February 9, 2009, 03:29:11 pm »
If Fab can do a job in midfield then hopefully that's a nother nail in the coffin of the sign Barry plan.

Why may I ask would you not want the manager to get his own way when it came to building his team?
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1246 on: February 9, 2009, 03:37:34 pm »
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2006/jul/7/N152845060707-1317.htm
You see, you did the clever thing and looked on the official site whereas I just typed stuff like "Rafa Benitez on Aurelio's passing" into Google!  Thanks for finding it.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1247 on: February 9, 2009, 03:40:37 pm »
Have Alonso or Aurelio to take wide FK/corners, with Gerrard on the edge of the area to offer a threat from a pulled back corner or clearance, similar to what Scholes does for the Mancs. I am perplexed that this hasn't been tried more, as Stevie strikes a moving ball better than anyone in the world imo.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1248 on: February 9, 2009, 03:41:48 pm »
exactly, been saying the same thing for years

I think the majority of us have, I can only think Stevie insists on taking the corners as he's so good at them :-\
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1249 on: February 9, 2009, 04:24:45 pm »
Why may I ask would you not want the manager to get his own way when it came to building his team?

Don't have a problem with the Barry plan for this summer even, as long as he also has money for a shiny new right-back, right-winger and back up striker.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1250 on: February 9, 2009, 05:15:45 pm »
One thing that may be brushed over re FA.

He arrived here on a free.

He wanted to follow Rafa.

Says a bit for his belief in the gaffa and willingness to continue working with him.

And yes, even being a bit "soft" re injuries, I really rate him, skill wise and attitude.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1251 on: February 9, 2009, 06:37:54 pm »
i thought Aurelio was really good in the first half. Was moving around well and passing like Alonso

i like his movement when playing as a centre midfielder. i am not criticizing xabi, but fabio seems to be more mobile and is more willing to carry the ball across the pitch and make space for a forward pass while xabi's moves are more subtle and do not suggest that kind of urgency. i can't tell whose style is better and it's only one game, but i am really impressed.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1252 on: February 9, 2009, 09:03:50 pm »
im not his biggist fan, but by no means think hes crap. my main grumble with fabio is the lack of drive he provides from fullback.

its funny seeing him in the middle at the weekend, i started to think about barry.on the face of thinks fabio could/can do everything barry can.

is  there any chance we will see more of him in midfield?
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1253 on: February 9, 2009, 09:07:21 pm »
The point of Barry is that he's great at little one two's and driving into the box, this isn't something you're gonna get from any of our other central midfielders Gerrard aside.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1254 on: February 9, 2009, 09:09:38 pm »
The point of Barry is that he's great at little one two's and driving into the box, this isn't something you're gonna get from any of our other central midfielders Gerrard aside.

totally agree. aurelio has that in him i think. i wasnt trying to imply barrys crap. my point which i didnt make very well was fabio maybe could do what rafa wanted barry to?
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1255 on: February 9, 2009, 09:11:28 pm »
i like his movement when playing as a centre midfielder. i am not criticizing xabi, but fabio seems to be more mobile and is more willing to carry the ball across the pitch and make space for a forward pass while xabi's moves are more subtle and do not suggest that kind of urgency. i can't tell whose style is better and it's only one game, but i am really impressed.

i think the ball carrying factor is very important. i presume thats why rafa wanted barry?
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1256 on: February 9, 2009, 10:38:09 pm »
The point of Barry is that he's great at little one two's and driving into the box, this isn't something you're gonna get from any of our other central midfielders Gerrard aside.

Plus he is great at playing the so called killer ball which Torres will love with his speed and knowing he can play in different positions with ease.

Barry would be a great signing for Liverpool FC without question and I for one hope he comes in the summer.

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« Reply #1257 on: February 9, 2009, 10:59:31 pm »
The whole point with Barry was basically that we'd get a "left-footed Gerrard" in a midfield three. We'd switch and play one defensive midfielder behind two box-to-box, as compared to two defensive midfielders behind Gerrard.

Now:

     Gerrard
Alonso Mascherano

Idea:

Barry    Gerrard
  Mascherano

The Barry formation would make us more dynamic in our attacking play.  We'd have two CMs who could make attacking runs into the box. It would also be a clever way of getting more from Gerrard in "CM", while still keeping the Gerrard-Torres partnership intact.

Aurelio is a handy player, but I think it's too much to expect him to be the alternative we saw in Barry. That said, it would be interesting to see what he could do for us in that kind of 4-3-3. Shouldn't be too hard to set up a team that could play both 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 with Aurelio in a CM role.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1258 on: February 9, 2009, 11:13:23 pm »
The whole point with Barry was basically that we'd get a "left-footed Gerrard" in a midfield three. We'd switch and play one defensive midfielder behind two box-to-box, as compared to two defensive midfielders behind Gerrard.

Now:

     Gerrard
Alonso Mascherano

Idea:

Barry    Gerrard
  Mascherano


Or

Barry    Gerrard
   Alonso

Against so called parking the bus teams.

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« Reply #1259 on: February 9, 2009, 11:17:22 pm »
Or

Barry    Gerrard
   Alonso

Against so called parking the bus teams.

Naturally. I chose Mascherano because we were willing to sacrifice Alonso to get Barry. That's a no go now, fortunately.

I really like the look of that formation you put out. I think it has excellent balance.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1260 on: February 9, 2009, 11:29:12 pm »
Or

Barry    Gerrard
   Alonso

Against so called parking the bus teams.

Xabi isn't defensively solid enough to make that work.
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« Reply #1261 on: February 9, 2009, 11:43:16 pm »
Against the park the bus teams he doesnt need to be defensive he needs to be in there to pull the strings. Masch would be more useful against the more expansive teams.

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« Reply #1262 on: February 10, 2009, 12:22:39 am »
The whole point with Barry was basically that we'd get a "left-footed Gerrard" in a midfield three. We'd switch and play one defensive midfielder behind two box-to-box, as compared to two defensive midfielders behind Gerrard.

Now:

     Gerrard
Alonso Mascherano

Idea:

Barry    Gerrard
  Mascherano



I agree, I recall someone on here doing a breakdown of our passing through the centre of the park and it was heavily biased towards the right hand side of the pitch. I feel the point of Barry would have been partially to address this bias by introducing a left-footed central midfielder, partially to include a player with more of that Gerrard-like drive to get in to the box and partially because Barry is quite versatile himself.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1263 on: February 11, 2009, 06:28:46 am »
Xabi isn't defensively solid enough to make that work.

I think he is, his positioning defensively is good and he makes alot of interceptions and tackles.  Add to that the mobility of gerrard and barry and you would have ample coverage and support for alonso.  Add mascherano and you would have a very versatile and talented midfield that would definitely provide options.
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« Reply #1264 on: February 11, 2009, 07:41:34 am »
I think he is, his positioning defensively is good and he makes alot of interceptions and tackles.  Add to that the mobility of gerrard and barry and you would have ample coverage and support for alonso.  Add mascherano and you would have a very versatile and talented midfield that would definitely provide options.

He doesn't break down counter attacks and mark the ball carrier tightly so that he can't find a teammate, basically he isn't Masch.  Also relying on Gerrard and Barry to track back isn't defensively solid in the least.  Having Masch as cover and Xabi as cover for Masch in a pinch is the method Rafa uses, one deep-lying midfielder that does make runs forward, and a central midfielder that makes passes and keeps things ticking but stays in a safe position.  The formation would provide quite a bit of attacking dynamism, but we don't want be Arsenal and have not defensive steel.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1265 on: February 11, 2009, 03:48:56 pm »
Alonso is more than capable of doing a solid defensive job against the dross of the Premiership

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1266 on: February 11, 2009, 03:50:58 pm »
Going a bit off-topic now, aren't we?
Anyways, Aurelio's been a good player this season, if only his injuries didn't keep him down though...
Last season he gave away the ball cheaply from the left-back position but he's worked on it this time around.
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« Reply #1267 on: February 11, 2009, 03:57:17 pm »
Alonso is more than capable of doing a solid defensive job against the dross of the Premier League

Word. Fuck sakes, Michael Carrick manages it.

What people aren't quite grasping is that if Alonso is there next to a Barry... we're going to have a lot of the ball. More so than usual. If we have a lot of the ball then their one up front is going to become extremely isolated - especially if we play Skrtel and Agger at the back, who have the pace to isolate him.

How do people think United get by defending with so few 'defenders'? If you've got the ball then the other team hasn't, and you're not going to be under pressure. If you've got the pace to move higher up the pitch then their one outlet is going to become extremely isolated (and irritated). Especially so if he's against two quick centrebacks, because he'll really struggle to be able to find the space to run into with the ball to allow the others to get up in support. In other words, he loses the ball quickly, we get the ball back and with Xabi playing a holding role, we're not down a player who doesn't contribute to the attack.

... And this is all without mentioning that Xabi is a bloody good tackler, fantastic at reading the game and all that stops him from being the best 'holding' midfielder in the world is a lack of athleticism. When people get goal side of him he'll struggle to recover, unlike Masch. But, if you've got pace at the back, you're less concerned about that because you're not terrified of a striker running at Agger or Skrtel and exposing them for pace. Same thing happens at United - on those rare occasions Carrick isn't enough, whoever gets in behind him still has to deal with two extremely physical centrebacks, one of which is lightning and the other of which is only really bested by rapid strikers when it comes to pace.
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« Reply #1269 on: February 11, 2009, 04:38:00 pm »
Jesus christ, Gareth Barry gets everywhere, doesn't he? And he looks so dull, as well...
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Liverpool boss Benitez: Fabio Aurelio has big role to play

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez says fullback Fabio Aurelio has a key role to play for the remainder of this season.

"Fabio was one of the best players on the pitch at Portsmouth," Benitez told liverpoolfc.tv.
"He played really well. We knew he could play in central midfield from his time at Valencia and he showed on Saturday that he is a clever player with quality.

"He will be an important player for us for the rest of the season. At Anfield especially, when we want to attack we know he will always be available because he has good movement and can deliver good crosses.

"It's always important to have players who can play in different positions, especially if they understand the game."


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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1271 on: February 25, 2009, 10:07:10 pm »
Another fantastic performance on the big stage, Robben barely got a sniff out of him (and Riera to be fair) and a couple of brilliant whipped free-kicks into the box. Just a shame we don't use the in-swingers half as much as we should.
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« Reply #1272 on: February 25, 2009, 10:12:28 pm »
Flawless tonight. Not a foot wrong defensively, useful and inventive with the ball and a great set piece for the goal.

Usually this type of performance from Fabio is followed by an injury. Please God let him stay fit this time.
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« Reply #1273 on: February 25, 2009, 10:13:42 pm »
Top player, top performance tonight.

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« Reply #1274 on: February 25, 2009, 10:16:15 pm »
Ace game tonight. Well done lad!

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« Reply #1275 on: February 25, 2009, 10:16:20 pm »
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« Reply #1276 on: February 25, 2009, 10:18:07 pm »
Evra, Clichy, Cole - all three are superior, that said tonight he was absolutely inspirational and i'm so glad we have a lot of players who are showing they have the mental steel to stand up and perform on such a stage, GET IN!

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1277 on: February 25, 2009, 10:18:45 pm »
Best player out there today, a fantastic performance. Delivery of the free-kick was class.

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« Reply #1278 on: February 25, 2009, 10:19:16 pm »
Clichy has had a woeful season. Fab deserves an international chance, would heighten the chance of injury though.

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« Reply #1279 on: February 25, 2009, 10:20:01 pm »
Our best lb by a mile

and probably our best lm as well if truth be told...


He had robben in his pocket all night and i have yet to see anyone make him look a mug..


Riera on the other hand is getting worse by the game...