Topic: Nuri Sahin

[Solomon Grundy]

Fuck off, i wanted him

Why what where you goin to do with him?

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

If there is any truth in this report, it would be a very dumb career move by Sahin ...

[-Willo-]

If there is any truth in this report, it would be a very dumb career move by Sahin ...

This will end up similar to Ibrahim Afellay

[-Sad Fuck-]

The same Afellay that was integral to Barcelona getting into the Champions League final?

How can you be so fucking thick?

[lafuriaroja]

The same Afellay that was integral to Barcelona getting into the Champions League final?

How can you be so fucking thick?

Or, the same Afellay who spends 90% of the time on the bench, making occasional appearances for the last 15-20 minutes of games. Not the best career move for a young player who needs match time to continue to develop.

[Thiago]

Afellay has to get ahead of Pedro/Villa/Messi, Sahin just needs to get ahead of Khedira and Diarra so I don't see how you can compare the two situations.

["Nookie".]

Or, the same Afellay who spends 90% of the time on the bench, making occasional appearances for the last 15-20 minutes of games.

In his first 6 months at Barcelona? That's not bad.

[lafuriaroja]

Afellay has to get ahead of Pedro/Villa/Messi, Sahin just needs to get ahead of Khedira and Diarra so I don't see how you can compare the two situations.

Doubt Sahin would be playing as part of the 2 in Jose's system. More likely to fill in for Ozil, as Kaka would likley be shown the door.

[Thiago]

Doubt Sahin would be playing as part of the 2 in Jose's system. More likely to fill in for Ozil, as Kaka would likley be shown the door.

Why not? He plays there for Dortmund and Real don't have enough numbers for the "2".

[-Willo-]

The same Afellay that was integral to Barcelona getting into the Champions League final?

How can you be so fucking thick?

Don't be such a fucking idiot, do you watch Barcelona? Do you even know anything about how Afellay is getting on at Barca, or did you watch the match the other night and immediately assume you know the situation of Afellay, prick.

He sits on the bench 95% of the time, gets on from time to time when their coasting, he is now officially a bit part player when he could of been so much more, just like I think Sahin will be at Real Madrid.

But oh no wait, he came on as a late substitute for Pedro and set up Messi's goal, EVERYTHING IS ALL GOOD! 

["Nookie".]

Don't be such a fucking idiot, do you watch Barcelona? Do you even know anything about how Afellay is getting on at Barca, or did you watch the match the other night and immediately assume you know the situation of Afellay, prick.

He sits on the bench 95% of the time, gets on from time to time when their coasting, he is now officially a bit part player when he could of been so much more, just like I think Sahin will be at Real Madrid.

But oh no wait, he came on as a late substitute for Pedro and set up Messi's goal, EVERYTHING IS ALL GOOD! 

This should be funny

[wardides]

Don't be such a fucking idiot, do you watch Barcelona? Do you even know anything about how Afellay is getting on at Barca, or did you watch the match the other night and immediately assume you know the situation of Afellay, prick.

He sits on the bench 95% of the time, gets on from time to time when their coasting, he is now officially a bit part player when he could of been so much more, just like I think Sahin will be at Real Madrid.

But oh no wait, he came on as a late substitute for Pedro and set up Messi's goal, EVERYTHING IS ALL GOOD! 

He has featured in 12 La Liga games since he arrived. Anyway, I'm sure Paddy will take care of this one.

[-Willo-]

This should be funny

 , I'll be back later anyway got footy soon so will respond if anythings written later, handbags away for a couple of hours. 

EDIT: Wardidas.. Featured, yes featured, how many of them were starts? Like I said, bit part player for them

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

Why not? He plays there for Dortmund and Real don't have enough numbers for the "2".

Alonso and Sahin is not a good combination for the ''2'' ... If he goes to Real Madrid, Sahin will end up as Alonso's backup ...

[Thiago]

Alonso and Sahin is not a good combination for the ''2'' ... If he goes to Real Madrid, Sahin will end up as Alonso's backup ...

That's all your opinion, I don't see why they wouldn't work. Alonso has played as the defensive minded of a 2 man midfield successfully before so why not again?

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

That's all your opinion, I don't see why they wouldn't work. Alonso has played as the defensive minded of a 2 man midfield successfully before so why not again?

I will not bother explaining it to you ... Try watching both players, and you will figure it out ... Eventually ...

[Thiago]

I will not bother explaining it to you ... Try watching both players, and you will figure it out ... Eventually ...

Taken your ball and went home eh? Nice one.

[itsgunnabebarnes!]

I will not bother explaining it to you ... Try watching both players, and you will figure it out ... Eventually ...

you really think you are some football expert don't you?

[wardides]

, I'll be back later anyway got footy soon so will respond if anythings written later, handbags away for a couple of hours. 

EDIT: Wardidas.. Featured, yes featured, how many of them were starts? Like I said, bit part player for them

So you want him to start ahead of Messi/Pedro/Villa?

For all the moaning people around here do about us not having a good enough squad in depth, everyone gets so shocked when a club sign someone who automatically wont be in there starting 11.

[Dr Manhattan]

I will not bother explaining it to you ... Try watching both players, and you will figure it out ... Eventually ...

Embarrassing reply. He posed a perfectly reasonable reply, and once again you act like you're an authority on everything.

Cringeworthy doesn't come close.

[Mr Dilkington]

I agree with Willo on Affelay to be honest.

Oh, great, i see Meff_Red is back.

[-Sad Fuck-]

He has featured in 12 La Liga games since he arrived. Anyway, I'm sure Paddy will take care of this one.

Not a lot to take care of.

He's moved to arguably, the best team ever. Because of the fact he's yet to command his way into the first team, it's apparently a bad decision on his behalf. He's hardly only coming on when they're 'coasting' either, he came on for David Villa, arguably the best striker in the world, in the Copa Del Rey final a goal down.

Think this 'needs playing time to develop' etc. is a bit bollocks as well. He's already 25, he's already a very good player, but isn't going to develop a lot more. He's also pretty much a guaranteed starter for his national team these days, which isn't exactly easy to get into.

I'll probably take the fact that he's said he's delighted with how things have gone at Barca so far as a sign that he's happy and made the correct decision. I know, mental.

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

Embarrassing reply. He posed a perfectly reasonable reply, and once again you act like you're an authority on everything.

Cringeworthy doesn't come close.

To be honest, I can't bother replying to aggressive posters, because it usually ends up with me being banned ... Therefore, I leave this discussion to the experts ...

[Mr Dilkington]

Not a lot to take care of.

He's moved to arguably, the best team ever. Because of the fact he's yet to command his way into the first team, it's apparently a bad decision on his behalf. He's hardly only coming on when they're 'coasting' either, he came on for David Villa, arguably the best striker in the world, in the Copa Del Rey final a goal down.

Think this 'needs playing time to develop' etc. is a bit bollocks as well. He's already 25, he's already a very good player, but isn't going to develop a lot more. He's also pretty much a guaranteed starter for his national team these days, which isn't exactly easy to get into.

I'll probably take the fact that he's said he's delighted with how things have gone at Barca so far as a sign that he's happy and made the correct decision. I know, mental.

I think Barca will look to sell him this summer or next to be honest.

[AriGold]

I will not bother explaining it to you ... Try watching both players, and you will figure it out ... Eventually ...

You really are something else.

[Dr Manhattan]

You really are something else.

Don't be so aggressive.

I can't believe how aggressive Thiago was with his question aswell. I mean just look at how aggressive it was.

[.Mike]

To be honest, I can't bother replying to aggressive posters, because it usually ends up with me being banned ... Therefore, I leave this discussion to the experts ...

In what way was he agressive? He just offered his opinion and asked you to prove yours, where as you just dismissed him whilst telling him to 'go watch both of the players' as if you're above him.

What a bellend you are.

[amir87]

To be honest, I can't bother replying to aggressive posters, because it usually ends up with me being banned ... Therefore, I leave this discussion to the experts ...

I'd like it if you pointed us to the part of his post that you found aggressive.

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

I'd like it if you pointed us to the part of his post that you found aggressive.

Not this post in particular, but he is being aggressive in his overall contribution since he has joined ... Since I am being ''watched'', I am trying to avoid discussion with this type of posters ...

On topic, I would like to answer with a quote from a great manager: ''Most midfields are made up of a buzzer, a cruncher and a spreader'' ...

[Thiago]

I can be aggressive at times but I wasn't this time...so I dunno why you decided not to answer my post.

[wardides]

I can be aggressive at times but I wasn't this time...so I dunno why you decided not to answer my post.

He wont. He will never, ever, ever answer your question.

[AnotherSpanishfan]

Afellay in 4 months has played almost as many league minutes (414 according to As) as Canales(305) and Pedro León (154) have combined since the start of the season.

[Promised to never post on RAWK again]

He wont. He will never, ever, ever answer your question.

I already did ...

On topic, I would like to answer with a quote from a great manager: ''Most midfields are made up of a buzzer, a cruncher and a spreader'' ...

[Popcorn]

Bad move for him imo, cracking player who should have stayed with Dortmund in the champions league next season

[Rohit]

I think he will be xabi's partner if true, pretty sure i read somewhere madrid don't think lass and khedia( who isn't anything special) offer enough going forwards. Most games madrid is on the front foot and there no need for an extra defensive midfielder. to be honest most games khedia is playing in the final third anyway as a box to box player but he hasn't got enough in him when it comes to the final third.

I thought madrid was getting valero or parejo anyway.

[Chief.]

*Opens thread looking for sensible, well thought discussion*

*Reads*

*Sits back and laughs*

*Continues to spam F5*

[Juan Loco]

I'd take Afellay in a second.

Wait... What?

[redbyrdz]

Wonder if Sahin might go to Turkey? They have the money, and he's chosen Turkey for his national team, hasn't he? Can't really see Dortmund keeping hold of him for more than one season.

[.Mike]

Wonder if Sahin might go to Turkey? They have the money, and he's chosen Turkey for his national team, hasn't he? Can't really see Dortmund keeping hold of him for more than one season.

No chance he'll go to Turkey.

He hasn't even proved himself on the highest stage yet in the CL, i'm sure he'll love to do that we either his current club or whoever he moves to.

[Bob Loblaw]

Which, funnily enough is the team they compete for in every competition... You don't counter Barcelona with a midfield of Alonso-Sahin-Oezil, well, not in my opinion.

And you don't build a team around one opponent.....who still wiped the floor with them anyway.