Topic: Formula One - The 2023 Season

[TepidT2O]

It staggers me every time… just how dreadful Ferrari are.

The start of the 2022 season, they had a car on a par with the Red Bull.

Now?  An absolute pile of shit.  What are they doing?  And where is that ‘great driver’ people were talking about last year?

[jillcwhomever]

It staggers me every time… just how dreadful Ferrari are.

The start of the 2022 season, they had a car on a par with the Red Bull.

Now?  An absolute pile of shit.  What are they doing?  And where is that ‘great driver’ people were talking about last year?

There is something very wrong about the relationship between Leclerc and Ferrari you really feel as though he needs to get away from them, there is a lot of tension there.

[RedG13]

Hulkenberg 3 grid spot penalty. Red Flag violation

[TepidT2O]

From practice the Aston was quicker in race trim than the mercs so I expect it to finish Max, Alonso, Merc Merc.

Questions in my mind are these.

How long will Red Bull put up with Perez? And how long before something ‘big’ happens at Ferrari? (Leclerc walking out for example)

[Graeme]

Put up with Perez? That’s a bonkers statement. He was pretty much level on points until recently but has had two poor qualifying sessions that wrecked his race.

[voodoo ray]

Put up with Perez? That’s a bonkers statement. He was pretty much level on points until recently but has had two poor qualifying sessions that wrecked his race.

it's less daft than thinking leclerc might "walk out"

[TepidT2O]

Put up with Perez? That’s a bonkers statement. He was pretty much level on points until recently but has had two poor qualifying sessions that wrecked his race.

Yeah, fair enough… “if this carries on” is a caveat.  Whinged spice is notoriously impatient when someone isn’t delivering

it's less daft than thinking leclerc might "walk out"

Ok, I don’t think that’s likely, but I can’t see the status quo going on there with out something exploding somewhere (and I don’t mean the car).

They’re so incredibly political that it can’t be easy there.

[jillcwhomever]

it's less daft than thinking leclerc might "walk out"

There are huge issues going on between Leclerc and Ferrari at the moment, at times he seems wildly emotional which can't be a good thing long term and certainly not short term either considering the last two races.

[voodoo ray]

There are huge issues going on between Leclerc and Ferrari at the moment, at times he seems wildly emotional which can't be a good thing long term and certainly not short term either considering the last two races.

That may well be the case but nobody's going to quit their team during the season.

[TepidT2O]

That may well be the case but nobody's going to quit their team during the season.

Can you not see something of a ‘blow up’ coming?  They can’t carry on like this surely?

[voodoo ray]

Can you not see something of a ‘blow up’ coming?  They can’t carry on like this surely?

I tend to go on history, not histrionics, and that kind of thing just doesn't happen in season. They might have team reshuffle or whatever but vasseur seems pretty set and in season driver changes are very rare, especially if you take red bull's recent history out.

[TepidT2O]

I tend to go on history, not histrionics, and that kind of thing just doesn't happen in season. They might have team reshuffle or whatever but vasseur seems pretty set and in season driver changes are very rare, especially if you take red bull's recent history out.

Not talking about an in season driver change, very unlikely…. But surely something behind the scenes? It’s such a long season.

[IgorBobbins]

The thing is, while it’s true that Ferrari have fucked up (and continue to do so), Leclerc has made mistakes too - so he can’t always blame the team.   If it was all one-way, then I’d imagine there’d be more grievances and potential for a bust-up. 

[voodoo ray]

Not talking about an in season driver change, very unlikely…. But surely something behind the scenes? It’s such a long season.

most of the time that kind of thing happens between seasons, but they might well have some internal moves or something.

[naYoRHa2b]

Such a better grid walk this.

[gazzalfc]

Those rear wings on the 2016 cars were weird

[voodoo ray]

poor start from alonso


the air coming off the train of cars really does batter those trees around the circuit

[jillcwhomever]

Safety car.

[gazzalfc]

Russell hits the wall.

Safety car

[voodoo ray]

from O canada to oh george.

[gazzalfc]

Unsafe release

[jillcwhomever]

That release will be looked at.

[gazzalfc]

That's right on the edge

[sminp]

That’s not unsafe when you see the Alonso onboard. Alonso clearly exaggerating it, F1 equivalent of a dive.

[voodoo ray]

ferrari decide not to pit either car. more genius stategy?

[jillcwhomever]

Nicely done Lando.

[TepidT2O]

Still on for my prediction bar Russel finding the wall

[TepidT2O]

way to go off

[voodoo ray]

Yeah that's the wrong way.

De vries has been poorer than expected.

[gazzalfc]

Norris getting 5 sec penalty

[jillcwhomever]

Norris getting 5 sec penalty

Bugger off stewards. 

[sminp]

Wasn’t convinced by the Ferrari strategy of not pitting during the safety car but actually it’s looking like a good call.

[jillcwhomever]

This has been a dreadful race and we now have a faster car being told to stay behind his teammate !

[jillcwhomever]

Russell retiring break issues.

[CraigDS]

Fuck sake, I thought the race was on at 9pm for some reason 

[Dave McCoy]

Someone should pay a Haas or Williams to just run into Max and this would be pretty good.

[voodoo ray]

Albon doing a cracking trulli impression

[TepidT2O]

Fuck sake, I thought the race was on at 9pm for some reason 

Hardly anything has happened

[Barneylfc∗]

How many laps in a row has Max led now? What's the record?

[TepidT2O]

Yawn fest that