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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2680 on: November 18, 2017, 08:00:59 pm »

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2681 on: November 18, 2017, 08:46:07 pm »
Good thing is they'll be desperate to beat the real Liverpool next week.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2682 on: November 18, 2017, 08:48:25 pm »
Pellegrino is dreadful. They should admit their mistake and get rid.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2683 on: November 18, 2017, 08:50:31 pm »
Pellegrino is dreadful. They should admit their mistake and get rid.

Its their team, most of us called it on this forum when they didn't want to get rid of VVD for £70 odd million. They're dumb as fuck for not getting that money and reinvesting it into the attack. Their system means defensively they'll always be decent, but the attack is uninspiring, its so uncreative, so what they get is games like today, or a tight 0-0/1-0 in their favour against the other shite.

They're in trouble.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2684 on: November 18, 2017, 08:51:03 pm »
You can’t criticise a team for keeping their best player, who is on a five- or six-year contract, just because they’re a poor team.
If they denied him the move again, that would be unfair by them, considering they are not performing at all.

You can. It was seriously poor businsss. An awful decision.

Their captain was making massive noises about wanting to leave, going on strike etc. Southampton needed to give their name manager a chance to build a team, improve a the team but no and now they could go down they're that bad.

50m-70m could of worked wonders for them. They need to cash in on Jan for sure or they're in trouble.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2685 on: November 18, 2017, 09:06:27 pm »
You can. It was seriously poor businsss. An awful decision.

Their captain was making massive noises about wanting to leave, going on strike etc. Southampton needed to give their name manager a chance to build a team, improve a the team but no and now they could go down they're that bad.

50m-70m could of worked wonders for them. They need to cash in on Jan for sure or they're in trouble.
Do they need to sell to buy? Didn’t their chairman express the opposite in the summer?

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2686 on: November 18, 2017, 09:06:44 pm »
They're probably still hoping they can sell to anybody but us.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2687 on: November 18, 2017, 09:10:11 pm »
Think the Pellegrino being shite argument is a bit harsh. He took Alaves to a top half finish and the cup final in the best league around. The players at his disposal at Southampton are overrated.

Also, Romeu's a fucking yard dog/
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2688 on: November 18, 2017, 09:13:26 pm »
Do they need to sell to buy? Didn’t their chairman express the opposite in the summer?
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2689 on: November 18, 2017, 09:14:30 pm »
Happy to see Forster picking the ball out of the net the awful twat.

Worst keeper in the league for me. Looked all over the place today.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2690 on: November 18, 2017, 09:15:32 pm »
Do they need to sell to buy? Didn’t their chairman express the opposite in the summer?

They wanted to make a stand. Which is fine but not at the cost of the club it isn't.



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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2691 on: November 18, 2017, 09:55:03 pm »
Think the Pellegrino being shite argument is a bit harsh. He took Alaves to a top half finish and the cup final in the best league around. The players at his disposal at Southampton are overrated.

Also, Romeu's a fucking yard dog/

No way should the manager get criticism when the team is relying on Shane Long to score.

They should have sold VVD and bought a couple of strikers who actually score goals.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2692 on: November 18, 2017, 09:56:54 pm »
Its their team, most of us called it on this forum when they didn't want to get rid of VVD for £70 odd million. They're dumb as fuck for not getting that money and reinvesting it into the attack. Their system means defensively they'll always be decent, but the attack is uninspiring, its so uncreative, so what they get is games like today, or a tight 0-0/1-0 in their favour against the other shite.

They're in trouble.

And they fired the last manager for being defensive and boring...
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2693 on: November 18, 2017, 10:18:55 pm »
You can’t criticise a team for keeping their best player, who is on a five- or six-year contract, just because they’re a poor team.
If they denied him the move again, that would be unfair by them, considering they are not performing at all.

I can and I stand by it.  He doesn't want to be there and they could have bought some decent players with the money. But they wanted to be bitter.  The Championship could be looming for them, all because they were bitter.  Fuck them.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2694 on: November 18, 2017, 10:27:17 pm »
They wanted to make a stand. Which is fine but not at the cost of the club it isn't.




do they have that much of a waiting list?


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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2695 on: November 19, 2017, 07:17:45 am »
They're probably still hoping they can sell to anybody but us.

i remembered they were hoping for a bid war but VVD coming out to say he preferred liverpool probably blew that plan out of the water unfortunately.

still if they decide to deal, they would probably be 50-60m richer which could be used to invest in a proper attacking player.

well there is still hope in january for us and them i guess.

for all the talk of them being defensively solid, I hardly saw that yesterday. Mane, Salah and Bobby were basically running rings. Are our front three that good?

Maybe they were missing Lemina but Romeu looks like a decent cover(yard dog) for DM.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2696 on: November 19, 2017, 08:27:23 am »
The saints fans really don't like Pellegrino. They want him out already.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2697 on: November 19, 2017, 09:23:31 am »
They wanted to make a stand. Which is fine but not at the cost of the club it isn't.
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« Reply #2698 on: November 19, 2017, 09:25:43 am »
The saints fans really don't like Pellegrino. They want him out already.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2699 on: November 19, 2017, 09:43:14 am »
They don't have a bad set of attackers. Tadic, Redmond, Boufal are a decent attacking midfield. Put a good striker ahead of them and I'm sure they'll do (midtable) well. The fact that they looked so disjointed is on the manager.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2701 on: November 19, 2017, 10:44:02 am »
Used to be a well run club, but it seems they have gone off the path recently. Don't think the new ownership will help stabilise the situation either.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2702 on: November 19, 2017, 11:47:00 am »
They don't have a bad set of attackers. Tadic, Redmond, Boufal are a decent attacking midfield. Put a good striker ahead of them and I'm sure they'll do (midtable) well. The fact that they looked so disjointed is on the manager.
Tadic turns up once every 5 games, Boufal is gash. Long hasn't scored in nearly a year, Austin is average and Gabbiadini isn't an out and out striker.

So yeah, they need some forwards.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2703 on: November 19, 2017, 11:47:52 am »
Stupid twats - cut their nose to spite their face in the summer

100%. Hurt themselves even more than us.

I tell you what he's worth no where near £70m. I hope we look elsewhere if they still want that. Would be ridiculous.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2704 on: November 19, 2017, 01:21:14 pm »
The saints fans really don't like Pellegrino. They want him out already.

Their football this season has been shit tbf.
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« Reply #2705 on: November 19, 2017, 01:29:21 pm »
I've revised my opinion somewhat

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2706 on: November 19, 2017, 01:44:37 pm »
100%. Hurt themselves even more than us.

I tell you what he's worth no where near £70m. I hope we look elsewhere if they still want that. Would be ridiculous.

I thin I'd agree. Looks pretty good, £70m good, no.

By the way did you see Lovren crunch him? Obviously doesn't want one of them there furriners taking his job.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2707 on: November 19, 2017, 01:44:49 pm »
Their football this season has been shit tbf.

It wasn't great last season either. And to be fair to Pellegrino, it's not like it's his team is it? He's only been there what, 4-5 months.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2708 on: November 19, 2017, 01:57:28 pm »
ex-redshite isn't he?

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Probably want him sacked before he sells us VVD in January. ;)

I tell you what he's worth no where near £70m.

Not right now, definitely.  Be interesting to see how they'd react if we bid £45m in a few weeks.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2709 on: November 19, 2017, 03:01:59 pm »
It wasn't great last season either. And to be fair to Pellegrino, it's not like it's his team is it? He's only been there what, 4-5 months.

And they didn't exactly give him much to work with in the summer. 2 Centre backs (one who has never played in a decent league) and a DM.
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« Reply #2710 on: November 19, 2017, 03:06:33 pm »
The saints fans really don't like Pellegrino. They want him out already.

To be fair, I never understood the idea that Pellegrino was going to be the anti-Puel. You only needed to look at how Alaves played last season to see they were both pretty similar. Safety first, low-risk style of play. Puel was sacked mainly because fans a) thought the style was boring and b) because the gap between them and the European berths had become extended so dramatically.  Like a lot of teams their season tanked in late December/early January. It probably wasn't helped by the fact Van Dijk was injured, Fonte wanted out and they didn't bother to sign any forwards until January, despite selling Mane and Pelle in the summer window. He still got them to a cup final. Yeah, they should have likely done better with in a EL group with Sparta Prague and Hapoel, but they still finished above Inter in that group.

Southampton should have taken £70m for Van Dijk: a player that had missed a ton of football and whose sale could have brought in 2-3 quality players. Instead they focused on principles, which while an honourable thing, might not count for as much if you end up slipping down the table and start panic buying in January. They've won four games in their last twenty going back to last season. And  despite needing goals, Southampton have only signed one forward (Gabbiadini) in the last three windows, while relying on talented, but massively injury-prone forwards (Austin and the now departed Rodriguez) and making Shane Long, who should be at best a third-choice in a team of Southampton's purported ambitions, as their lead striker. Meanwhile they have at least six players who can play centre-back (Stephens, Van Dijk, Yoshida, Hoedt, Bednarek and Gardos) despite having no EL football.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2711 on: November 19, 2017, 06:15:48 pm »
To be fair, I never understood the idea that Pellegrino was going to be the anti-Puel. You only needed to look at how Alaves played last season to see they were both pretty similar. Safety first, low-risk style of play. Puel was sacked mainly because fans a) thought the style was boring and b) because the gap between them and the European berths had become extended so dramatically.  Like a lot of teams their season tanked in late December/early January. It probably wasn't helped by the fact Van Dijk was injured, Fonte wanted out and they didn't bother to sign any forwards until January, despite selling Mane and Pelle in the summer window. He still got them to a cup final. Yeah, they should have likely done better with in a EL group with Sparta Prague and Hapoel, but they still finished above Inter in that group.

Southampton should have taken £70m for Van Dijk: a player that had missed a ton of football and whose sale could have brought in 2-3 quality players. Instead they focused on principles, which while an honourable thing, might not count for as much if you end up slipping down the table and start panic buying in January. They've won four games in their last twenty going back to last season. And  despite needing goals, Southampton have only signed one forward (Gabbiadini) in the last three windows, while relying on talented, but massively injury-prone forwards (Austin and the now departed Rodriguez) and making Shane Long, who should be at best a third-choice in a team of Southampton's purported ambitions, as their lead striker. Meanwhile they have at least six players who can play centre-back (Stephens, Van Dijk, Yoshida, Hoedt, Bednarek and Gardos) despite having no EL football.

Agreed. They should have taken the money and ran. Not sure they'll even get an offer close to 70 mill for him again.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2712 on: November 19, 2017, 06:24:41 pm »
100%. Hurt themselves even more than us.

I tell you what he's worth no where near £70m. I hope we look elsewhere if they still want that. Would be ridiculous.
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2713 on: November 19, 2017, 06:28:12 pm »
They'd be lucky to get 30 million for him right now. In fact they should take that and piss off.

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« Reply #2714 on: November 19, 2017, 08:01:41 pm »
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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2715 on: November 19, 2017, 08:03:46 pm »
I've a horrible feeling Liverpool will spend a ridiculous amount on VDV still, I just don't get the obsession with him. And considering the methodical and careful way the transfers have been made the last 2 seasons to benefit the team, this one would look completely out of place. Crazy money for a player who as good as he is, isn't actually that amazing.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2716 on: November 19, 2017, 08:09:14 pm »
There is no Defender currently playing the game that I would consider spending anywhere near £70m for.

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« Reply #2717 on: November 19, 2017, 08:12:48 pm »
There is no Defender currently playing the game that I would consider spending anywhere near £70m for.

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Re: Southampton FC general discussion thread
« Reply #2718 on: November 19, 2017, 08:24:40 pm »
There is no Defender currently playing the game that I would consider spending anywhere near £70m for.

Can't think of any defender that moved for even half that in the summer that has lived up to the price tag, can you? Keane at Everton, Bonucci at Milan, Mendy got a huge injury for City, Palace are nailed on for relegation with Sakho, Lindelof only just started his first PL game for Utd, who else was there? Sanchez at Spurs?

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« Reply #2719 on: November 19, 2017, 08:47:42 pm »
Can't think of any defender that moved for even half that in the summer that has lived up to the price tag, can you? Keane at Everton, Bonucci at Milan, Mendy got a huge injury for City, Palace are nailed on for relegation with Sakho, Lindelof only just started his first PL game for Utd, who else was there? Sanchez at Spurs?

Sanchez at Spurs is supposed to be doing pretty well, isn't he? And the couple of times I saw Mendy play before his injury, he was looking really good. Don't really know about any of the others apart from Sakho, and he's too good for Palace, and a infinitely too good for an Owl-led Palace.

I sort of agree that the fees being thrown around are ridiculous, but I think we just have to suck it up and follow the market. Unless we want to carry on having Lovren as our first choice centre half for the next few years and, barring a ridiculous turnaround in his form, I don't think many of us would be on board with that. There may not be many world class defenders around, but I genuinely believe Van Dijk would be great for us. I'd happily fork over £70m for him if that's what it takes.