Topic: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

[jillcwhomever]

They obviously want it sorted soon as possible, which makes sense.

[disgraced cake]

Reading the first one, it clicked that Koopmeiners was key for his AZ side. Reunion on the cards?

Wouldn't be the worst place to look. Done very well in Holland/Italy and he's a big physical presence who always chips in with goals and could probably be quite versatile.

[DelTrotter]

Obviously has been done for a bit given the stuff yesterday and probably not a coincidence it's all starting in the media after Feyenoord's season basically ended on Sunday.

Welcome Arne!!

[Draex]

Melissa Reddy
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Liverpool have opened negotiations with Feyenoord over Arne Slot.

Sources in Holland indicate the process could move quickly with the 45-year-old keen to join the Anfield club.

[thaddeus]

Any manager that looks at our current squad and thinks they can't make it work with minimal upheaval isn't worth us wasting our time with.  Arguably a more elite #6 (although Endo has done well on the whole) would be preferable for many managers and we need an extra central defender but otherwise it's a very strong and flexible squad.

I don't know if Amorim is a great coach/manager or not but us appointing a manager that plays a back three/five would seem a bit silly given that every age group side has been playing 4-3-3 for their entire time in our academy.

As far as I know Slot has Feyenoord playing a 4-3-3 but with two #6 and a #10.  I think our midfield could adapt to that easily enough although it would squeeze the chances for Szobo, Grav and Elliott.  Macca and Trent as a double #6 

[Draex]

Wouldn't be the worst place to look. Done very well in Holland/Italy and he's a big physical presence who always chips in with goals and could probably be quite versatile.

Geertruida, Koopmeiners, Weiffer all look good and we've been linked to Koopmeiners before I thought he was really good against us.

[Phineus]

Kinda expect this’ll be done by end of weekend - classic Mickey E signs in media.

The nerds will inherit the earth.

[mattD]

Reading up on Slot, on what he's done and his personality makes me intrigued.

After Alonso, the next best thing would be 'intriguing' rather than a toxic hate figure like Mourinho or Simeone or that cuckolding ego maniac uber-twat Nagalsmann.

First of all, I want to be able to support the man. And there's no way in hell I'd give my energies to those horrible arseholes mentioned. Slot seems like the kind of man I could easily back.

I'll look forward to it and he can be assured of my support if he comes here.

[Andy82lfc]

They obviously want it sorted soon as possible, which makes sense.

Yeah gotta make sure we get him nailed down with all the other offers from big clubs flying in for him.

[Fitzy.]

The biggest problem for me is the Coach being undermined by leaks to the media. The club at the moment is an absolute joke. I mean even Edwards return was played out in the media. We can't even keep the lineup secret. If the new coach doesn't start well then we could well end up with the same situation we had with Rodgers. The clubs PR department at the moment seems to have been outsourced to the Athletic.

I mean the only reason people are talking about Slot is because it is being leaked to the favoured journalists.

It's not a 'joke'. Look around at clubs who actually are a joke - Forest, Everton, ManUtd, Chelsea and then return to your harsh assessment of the club you support. Liverpool are run pretty well by comparison. Not perfect obviously. The finances are never under the scrutiny of he authorities and the team is performing at a level that has them challenging for trophies. They also exist in a media ecosystem that is frenzied and feed off scraps for clicks and interactions. The idea that the club can always rise above such conditions is possibly fanciful. Furthermore, if it's just the odd leaky piece of news that is emerging then I would say that this isn't 'joke' territory. Also, clubs will actively use well-placed journalists to get on top of stories - either for the purposes of control or even wilful misdirection. All is fair when it comes to this type of stuff, i think.

[meady1981]

Surely we expect a bit of a drop off and time for transition with a nw manager who has new ideas?

A great squad is one thing but it’s a big change and expecting a new manager to come in and hit the ground running like that is pretty insane given the wafer thin margin for error when it comes to winning the premier league

I agree with this fully regarding the comment I made.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Wouldn't be the worst place to look. Done very well in Holland/Italy and he's a big physical presence who always chips in with goals and could probably be quite versatile.

Isn't he pretty slow? And also more of an attacking midfielder when we are probably more in need of a DM if anyone (but still pretty stacked I. Midfield)

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Will be good to get this over the line so we can start planning for next season now. The king is dead etc.

Still feels weird though. But, it is a business deal at the end of the day and emotion needs to be put to one side, for a while I guess.

[MD1990]

hope our fans give him a chance. Last 24 hrs reaction has been very poor lots of mentions of his appearance but it is a risky apointment but he deserves the backing of the fans

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Also yeah this seems done now

[B0151?]

I think some of the posts since yesterday are a great insight into how many clubs end up with a past-it Mourinho aren't they?

Don't get me wrong if it ends up being this Slot, it's a massive step up for him, risky appointment. But some would just prefer a name that they've heard of it seems. At least the nerds in charge have more of a basis for appointments than name recognition and don't just draw up a list of the names of the biggest managers. It's easy to do that, it doesn't mean they are the right fit for us.

Respect to all the people contributing with more thought out posts though. Just a few doomster ones that annoyed me. Maybe I'm a sick person but I love the excitement of the unknown. And it's not that I have complete faith in Edwards and co, but FSG have handed him the keys to make appointments like this and whoever we go for will be more thought out than a post on here with a list of names.

[Draex]

Isn't he pretty slow? And also more of an attacking midfielder when we are probably more in need of a DM if anyone (but still pretty stacked I. Midfield)

He was faster than our entire midfield both matches, pressed our backline relentlessly.

[Zimagic]

Not sure I want Slot, he seems to prefer strikers who can score.





 
Sorry.

[Fitzy.]

Well, FSG did appoint Brendan "Three Envelopes/My biggest mentor is myself" Rodgers.

12 years ago they appointed a bloke who still has mixed reviews. Neither a disaster nor ultimately good enough. It's hardly a disgrace even if you didn't like the guy. 12 years ago though so possibly a little unsure why it would be used against an owner. i hope I am not sill judged for a decision I made at work over a decade ago...

[bornandbRED]

Surely we expect a bit of a drop off and time for transition with a nw manager who has new ideas?

A great squad is one thing but it’s a big change and expecting a new manager to come in and hit the ground running like that is pretty insane given the wafer thin margin for error when it comes to winning the premier league

It has to be top 4 at the bare minimum for me, considering where Klopp left it. 

[robertobaggio37]

The offer that was declined was apparently worth £5 million.

[Draex]

12 years ago they appointed a bloke who still has mixed reviews. Neither a disaster nor ultimately good enough. It's hardly a disgrace even if you didn't like the guy. 12 years ago though so possibly a little unsure why it would be used against an owner. i hope I am not sill judged for a decision I made at work over a decade ago...

And was one slip away from winning the league, not a fan of Rodgers but he's not the example some people think of FSG being shit.

[AndyMuller]

Does he like strong and fast 6s?

[plura]

€15m ffs 

Liverpool submits opening bid for Slot

https://1908.nl/artikelen/liverpool-dient-openingsbod-op-slot-in

Of course they'd be stupid to not try their luck getting as much as possible out from a big club like Liverpool. But then again I'm sure all parties wants it be respectful. This will be done shortly, if it isn't already.

[mattD]

hope our fans give him a chance. Last 24 hrs reaction has been very poor lots of mentions of his appearance but it is a risky apointment but he deserves the backing of the fans

It's a disgrace but I expect those 'fans having a go at his appearance probably think Mourinho should be given a shot.

As far as I'm concerned, that immediately disqualifies you as a true fan let alone having an informed opinion.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

He was faster than our entire midfield both matches, pressed our backline relentlessly.

Fair enough. I always heard he was too slow for the league

Still don't think positionally he is someone we really need but fair enough

[Stockholm Syndrome]

The offer that was declined was apparently worth £5 million.

We offer 5, they want 15, probably settle at 10

[Cafe De Paris]

It certainly doesn't hurt, but Isak and Guimares came to Newcastle to play under Howe and Kudus and Paqueta came to West Ham to play under Moyes. So the manager clearly isn't the be all and end all when it comes to player transfers.

I'm not sure who you'd want as the next Liverpool manager though, Al? I think there's only four managers with similar/equivalent CV's to Klopp:

Guardiola - Not coming here
Ancelotti - Not coming here
Simeone - Expensive and his pantomime villain act isn't right for us. Awful style of football
Mourinho - Toxic has been
Enrique - Is he viable? I don't know. Less than a year in and he's got PSG to a CL semi-final

I agree that LFC should get the best available manager to take over from Klopp, but who would that be in your eyes? I see lots of criticism of the Rodgers appointment but not much from you on what you think we ought to be doing as a club with nearly £600m revenue.

I also agree that part of me finds it galling that our club can get "outspent" by Arsenal. But on the other hand I find it far more satisfying that we only paid £35m for Mac Allister instead of the £100m he's clearly worth (as dictated by the market).

Just on Ancelotti….  Did we look at him before Klopp?  I don’t know why we would rule him out. He has lived over here. His record at Madrid and Milan is pretty awesome. He can work with the superstar players/they all seem happy to play for him and respect him being one of the most successful managers ever. I think he would have been a great transition for A few years.

[Draex]

Fair enough. I always heard he was too slow for the league

Still don't think positionally he is someone we really need but fair enough

I heard the same but was very impressed with him against us, he's built like a tank as well!

He started out as a 6, seems to have moved foward this year.

[RedSince86]

I'm excited, that Ajax 6-0 thrashing video highlights have sold me.

Honestly though it seems a easier transition with Slot, the players we have are suited to Slot's Football, maybe 1-2 signings Slot wants and we'll be right at it again next season.

Good to see we have a Dutch contingent and Captain already here as well.

[Fitzy.]

And was one slip away from winning the league, not a fan of Rodgers but he's not the example some people think of FSG being shit.

Yeah - it's a bit 'The Internet Will Never Forget' type of thing. Someone is judged harshly for the rest of time because they once did a wrong.

[disgraced cake]

When all the talk was on Alonso and Amorim I was surprised not to have heard his name mentioned more given his achievements looked so similar to Amorim's with Sporting. Now he'll end up being the manager, funny how it goes.

Quite relaxed about things given my expectations aren't particularly high anyway. His performance with Feyenoord has clearly been very good and they'll have obviously done their due diligence with him. Hopefully he's not some yes man and he gets some money to bring in some real quality players. Given what he's done in his current job I have a feeling they've brought him to develop younger players. That'd be okay but only if there's an infusion of some real top quality players to take the team forward. If we can do that the potential will obviously be there to succeed.

Not the first man I'd have gone for by any means but probably one of the better choices all things considered. Expectations should be high from the start from his/the club's view, please don't erode standards post Klopp, I can't really be arsed with that after the quality we've seen under him. If this turns out to be a failure hopefully by the time all is said and done they've found their next project manager who'll set the team going forward.

[jillcwhomever]

It's a disgrace but I expect those 'fans having a go at his appearance probably think Mourinho should be given a shot.

As far as I'm concerned, that immediately disqualifies you as a true fan let alone having an informed opinion.

It really is distressing how many have gone on about Mourinho. The man's personality alone should discard him from being our manager. That's before you even begin to look at his mixed results.

[[new username under construction]]

We offer 5, they want 15, probably settle at 10

Which is the figure being bandied around recently so shouldn't be too hard

[B0151?]

And was one slip away from winning the league, not a fan of Rodgers but he's not the example some people think of FSG being shit.

People can say what they want, that 13/14 was one of my favourite seasons even if it ended with nothing. Although there were dodgy moments and awful signings along the way, Rodgers did build that side and the journey was fun too.

For sure having Suarez helped a lot - but Rodgers got the best of him - along with Coutinho, Sterling and Sturridge, and our squad has so much more class players for a talented coach to get the best of out now then it did then. Our structure is almost so much more defined and proven than it was then which caused a lot of problems.

It's really strange to hark back to it. So much has changed.

[stoa]

Of course they'd be stupid to not try their luck getting as much as possible out from a big club like Liverpool. But then again I'm sure all parties wants it be respectful. This will be done shortly, if it isn't already.

Same goes for Liverpool probably. The club would be stupid to just pay the asking price, but if they've identified Slot as the manager to take the club forward then he's clearly worth 15 million. It'll be a short back and forth between both parties and there'll probably be a quick agreement.

[rossipersempre]

No doubt whatsoever Slot is a lock for the job now (cheap pun for the Dutch speakers here).

Amorim will go to Barcelona or Chelsea.

[J-Mc-]

Got a feeling that Nunez is going to shine under Slot.

[mattD]

Just on Ancelotti….  Did we look at him before Klopp?  I don’t know why we would rule him out. He has lived over here. His record at Madrid and Milan is pretty awesome. He can work with the superstar players/they all seem happy to play for him and respect him being one of the most successful managers ever. I think he would have been a great transition for A few years.

What's with your obsession in getting big names? First Mourinho (have you been in a coma the last decade because you seem to neglect his putrid record of late) and now chequebook manager Ancelotti?

Ancelotti can only work with a fantasy elite squad. Indulges the massive egos of the very best and gets the best out of the attack he has.

Aside from that, hes utterly ordinary with anything below that. Lads like Muller at Bayern (a straight up guy who knows his stuff) slated him for not even coaching the side.

He may have won record Champions Leagues but its a record that overstates his abilities. We are not Madrid and we need a smarter man in charge.

[mickeydocs]

This is exciting and clearly well thought out by Edwards and co.

Michael Edwards yet again the master of deflection, as a fanbase we've been looking at Xabi and Amorim while our Football CEO has been looking at a candidate that can work with our existing squad and no doubt will be on board with what ever signings we have planned (and departures).

On TAW it was mentioned that he plays 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 (although Reddy did suggest 4-4-3, which would be truly game changing) and that he plays with an out and out striker.

Some interesting points on between game recovery and that he avoids sprints where possible to reduce the risk of injuries.

Hopefully we announce this and allow the fan base to unite fully behind Jurgen for the rest of his time here. Up the reds.