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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1760 on: April 24, 2013, 11:27:22 pm »

It certainly looks like one, a frigate perhaps, but no idea with that resolution and there didn't seem to be any captions on that site.
There's quite a few more views from the river if you follow that link Tsar.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1761 on: April 25, 2013, 08:20:33 pm »
Dunno how many added this week. About 70-odd I think, all from round Wavertree, Norris Green, West Derby, Anfield, Kirkdale, that way, and town of course.

Here's one that may be of interest...


Flagpole Corner, Anfield, 1953 in 2012 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1762 on: April 26, 2013, 02:15:41 pm »
Finding this shot fascinating from your latest set Keith:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithjones84/8676192318/in/set-72157632063149974/

Every time I look at the old shot, it makes me think of where you've taken the new shot from - yet the new shot just doesn't seem to line up very well, and the building details all seem a bit wrong. Finding it hard to understand. the signs all read the right way round so it can't be a mirrored shot though or anything like that?

see in the old shot, there's railings on the far left, which makes me think of that little patch of green which is now next to the staycity and little Tesco, but then Lewis's would surely be too far away if it was that far up Mount Pleasant?

At the same time, as you say some of the buildings in your shot look too old to have NOT been present in the first shop, the orange brick above the Kebab place a case in point. Great big 'Hmmmm?' from me on this!
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1763 on: April 26, 2013, 04:22:01 pm »

It's the edge of the old pre-war Lewis's building alright but I think the shot was perhaps taken from here in Renshaw St looking towards Lime Street.

As you said, the buildings just don't match up at all and I don't believe any tram lines ran up Mount Pleasant but they did along Renshaw. It would be some climb that going up Mt Pleasant, and as for going down if the brakes failed....

You can just make out the sign for Jacobs in the distance. Found a photo of original Lewis's and Jacobs here ...



I suppose Jacobs must have moved the other side of Ranelagh when Lewis's expanded pre-war.....Tsar-Richie?

I'm guessing when Lewis's was rebuilt post war after the bomb damage & fire, all of those buildings on the left in the photo were torn down, possibly they too have been damaged in the blitz.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1764 on: April 26, 2013, 06:12:39 pm »
I'm pretty confident it's where I say above now having done a trawl around. (See attachment pic at end if streetview not available)

Here's a picture up Ranelagh towards the Adelphi...



In it, top left and looking as if it's next to the Adelphi, is that very unique and identifiable tower roof that's visible on the far right in the background of the original photo in Keiths page....


So, I think it's around about here...(streetview perspective is obviously not precise)

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1765 on: April 26, 2013, 06:15:30 pm »
Yonks back in here there was a post re the tramstop outside the Adelphi and low and behold, what did I find but this....



Aren't those Liverbird finials great. I wonder what ever happened to them (or perhaps whose house they ended up in)?

Keith, if you haven't done that picture as a before and after, it could make a good one....
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1766 on: April 26, 2013, 07:04:36 pm »
Agree Gulley. The railings on the extreme left of the photo belong to the Independent Newington Chapel.

Newington itself is out of shot to the left of the railings. So in fact the whole of the block of buildings on view became part of Lewis's.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1767 on: April 27, 2013, 07:19:55 pm »
SATRA, Gulley Sucker, Tsar Kastik cheers that's great research, the original shot was titled Renshaw Street/Lawton Street, 1927, so I don't know if you saw it first but the first attempt I made was this one...


Renshaw Street, 1927 and 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

but I wasn't that confident because just none of the buildings compared. Then someone pointed out the railings on the left and suggested Mount Pleasant and I was immediately convinced it was that recessed garden bit by the Tesco.

I went up Mount Pleasant to redo it and just 'knew' it wasn't right because I realised the railings for that garden were much further up than I had imagined and as I said, the buildings looked too old to have gone up since 1927!

I think the one above is more likely about right, but when there is nothing still standing as it was, it makes it much harder to be sure! I had originally thought it was from Renshaw Street because I'd seen a similar shot  showing Jacob's and The Vines over the road, taken from the middle of Renshaw Street - after a wobble of belief leading me to have a go at it from Mt Pleasant, and your research/discussion, I'm now convinced again it's taken roughly from the above/Streetview spec.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1768 on: April 27, 2013, 07:21:33 pm »
Yonks back in here there was a post re the tramstop outside the Adelphi and low and behold, what did I find but this....



Aren't those Liverbird finials great. I wonder what ever happened to them (or perhaps whose house they ended up in)?

Keith, if you haven't done that picture as a before and after, it could make a good one....

Absolutely brilliant Gulleysucker - saved and on the list for next week! Am running very low on old pics from town to do at the moment so that's fantastic. Cheers guvnor!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1769 on: April 27, 2013, 08:47:50 pm »
This one's hardly changed at all - Hope Street




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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1770 on: April 28, 2013, 09:55:52 am »
Keith, I've searched through the Lime Streets on your Flickr page but couldn't see this one - but maybe I missed it (hard work all this cross-checkin   :))











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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1771 on: April 29, 2013, 09:30:20 pm »
Definitely haven't done that one Tsar, will se if I can do it! Cheers!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1772 on: April 30, 2013, 02:35:48 pm »
Don't know if this is the right place to put these or if anyone even cares but the house I'm working in at the minute has the original front page of the Liverpool Mercury from 1820 on the wall
Always like reading old papers to see what kind of stuff was printed back yonder
Here's a few pics from it, you might need a magnifying glass though ;D

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1773 on: May 2, 2013, 11:49:31 am »
Can anybody tell me what the big eyesore is on the skyline 2 minutes in on this video? It's a 1973 view from the bottom of St. Mary's Road, Garston.
I worked in Garston about this time (Ariel Parade), but don't recall it.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1774 on: May 2, 2013, 12:52:41 pm »
Can anybody tell me what the big eyesore is on the skyline 2 minutes in on this video? It's a 1973 view from the bottom of St. Mary's Road, Garston.
I worked in Garston about this time (Ariel Parade), but don't recall it.

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Great find that film, Tsar.
Annoyingly, on both my old 60's maps it simply says 'works' at that spot, just off (the old) Speke Rd.
By that what looks like a covered conveyor belt high up, I'm guessing perhaps some kind of food processing plant, definitely something that took some kind of small loose materials up high to drop through some kind of industrial process sequence, but I'll keep digging.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1775 on: May 3, 2013, 12:37:00 pm »

Tsar, I'd like to say I've found the answer but having exhausted search combinations involving Garston, Speke, Factory etc, it's got me well and truly stumped.

The film is a telephoto shot so the depth of field is very compressed, so I think that complex is actually quite some distance beyond and behind the white Bank at the junction at the end.
If you follow the line of view down St Mary's in the film (screen capture below) on satellite view I'm guessing it's probably where  that overgrown green patch right in the middle is now, to the right of the old Gas Works. I don't think it's any further away as I think that would put it a bit too close to old Speke aerodrome as it was back then and that thing looks pretty high. Annoyingly, there appears to be some lettering on the side of the building in the film but the resolution is just too low to identify it.

What I did find seriously depressing was the difference in St Mary's back then to how it is now. What was once a bustling road seems to be now just a run down procession of boarded up windows interspersed with the obligatory booze shops, tanning salons and bookies and it's not even as if that's a really old film. Terrible.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1776 on: May 3, 2013, 05:19:58 pm »
Gulley, as you say, whatever it was it must have been some way beyond the bank and its neighbours. Garston baths would have been in constant shadow otherwise, I reckon.

Looking at that screenshot again; could the raised railway line that ran along down thataways account for at least the some of the mystery? No, I don't think so either.

Present day St Marys Road.  I've walked up it 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years to catch the bus and you're right - a shadow of its former self.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1777 on: May 3, 2013, 05:40:34 pm »
For info about a business address or other
residents in streets, commercial or private
go to the main library in town and go to
the reference dept.
They have street directories going back,
year on year to the 1800`s.
Ask for Gores or Kelly trade directories.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1778 on: May 4, 2013, 12:14:35 am »
Great find that film, Tsar.

It is gulley mate and I don't have the answer to the question.
Regarding the Runcorn Town plans at the end, can you put a bit more on to the "Liverpool is desperate" statement?

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1779 on: May 4, 2013, 07:21:43 pm »
Usual shenanigams from me this week, with quite a few new ones - about 80 odd from town, Garston, Allerton, Dingle, Fairfield, Walton, Fazakerley, Anfield, Everton, Wavertree and Speke

Long day, that was!

Here's one or two


Heald Street Fire Station, Garston, 1906 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Allerton Road, Allerton, 1971 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1780 on: May 4, 2013, 08:55:16 pm »
Gulley, as you say, whatever it was it must have been some way beyond the bank and its neighbours. Garston baths would have been in constant shadow otherwise, I reckon.

Looking at that screenshot again; could the raised railway line that ran along down thataways account for at least the some of the mystery? No, I don't think so either.

Present day St Marys Road.  I've walked up it 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years to catch the bus and you're right - a shadow of its former self.

Just by coincidence with you talking about it, I did 4 or 5 then and nows in St Mary's Road, in this week's batch, one looking at that juction with the old bank...!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1781 on: May 4, 2013, 09:45:32 pm »
Ha, I've just popped in to put this pic up for your 'then & now' project - if you haven't already done it.

It's one of Ged Fagan's if you want to ask him first. It's taken from here...http://www.my-liverpool.co.uk/Gallery-Three(564668).htm
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« Reply #1782 on: May 4, 2013, 10:39:59 pm »
Don't believe I've seen this one on yours either...click a couple of times to enlarge







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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1783 on: May 4, 2013, 11:53:47 pm »

Keith, did you do these from way back on here?....



Streetview here

and..



Streetview here
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1784 on: May 5, 2013, 12:46:13 am »
Crikey, no I hadn't got any of those Tsar and Gulley. Will save them now and check em out!

I'll drop Ged a line to ask him on that one Tsar, I left a message for him on SkyscraperCity about some other ones but he hasn't been on there since I left it I don't think, though he has been absolutely ace and offered me access to his stuff before, which is brilliant of him.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1785 on: May 5, 2013, 12:54:58 am »
Just looking at those 1911 shots, and the other ones that are around, it must have been one mental time to be in the city mustn't it? I didn;t know too much about it until recently (and still don't know that much) but how chaotic it must have been, and then all the bother with the Birmingham police getting all heavy handed, massive meetings at St George's, the strikes affecting almost everything...Bloody hell!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1786 on: May 6, 2013, 08:44:33 am »
More great photos, thanks for putting them on,
I am fascinated by old photos.
How many of  those cavalry men were
killed in WW1, I wonder.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1787 on: May 6, 2013, 09:02:52 am »
How many of  those cavalry men were killed in WW1, I wonder.

Despite apocryphal tales of machine guns mowing them down en masse, the Cavalry Regiments got off quite lightly as they were hardly used on the Western Front, seemingly always being held in reserve to exploit the 'Breakthrough', which never quite seemed to happen.

Unlike the huge losses in the infantry regiments, only ten cavalry regiments suffered over 200 dead. wiki

Having said that, in those photographs, I don't think those troops are actually Cavalry. While the officers at the front are on horse, normal back then, the rest of the Battalion(?) are on foot marching behind.

But it's highly probable that many of the poor civilian sods standing around in those photo's ended up getting killed.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1788 on: May 6, 2013, 09:38:15 am »
Gulley, I think that it's probably a mix of infantry and cavalry troops boarding ship. A close look at the sleeves of some of the mounted troops clearly show them NOT to be officers - there are lance-jacks and corporals atop some of those mounts.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1789 on: May 6, 2013, 10:40:36 am »
The junior officer near front on the horse looks
to be about 15/16.

I wondered who was the man in the middle distance
with a bowler hat and hands on hips standing in front
of the foot soldiers.

A number of white horses ridden by cavalry men,
look out of place.


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« Reply #1790 on: May 6, 2013, 10:59:58 am »
Gulley, I think that it's probably a mix of infantry and cavalry troops boarding ship. A close look at the sleeves of some of the mounted troops clearly show them NOT to be officers - there are lance-jacks and corporals atop some of those mounts.
Johnno, while detachments of Cavalry units were present in the city during the strike (Hussars & Royal Scots Greys), I think those pictures show a unit of Royal Warwickshire Regiment.
From the ever excellent Yo Liverpool...

Liverpool Magistrate Start Deacon with Colonel East of the Second Warwickshire Regiment at Brunswick Goods Station.



and also...

1911: Soldiers of the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment disembark at Brunswick Goods Station on Sefton St/Northumberland St. This station was for a few years a major passenger terminus, until Central Station was built. This was the first time since 1874 that the station had been used by passenger trains. The soldiers were kept away from major flash points of the city centre and the immediate North End of the city.



Now I'm not a uniform expert so I could be wrong but if you look at the sleeve cuff insignia, it's the same as in the Edge Hill picture (but yes, you're absolutely correct that some of the mounted troops behind the officer at the front right hand side of the Edge Hill picture are indeed not officers)



There's a really good read on the events here..

Detachments of police and military arrived in the city on 10 August from Leeds, Birmingham, 200 officers from the Royal Irish Constabulary, together with 400 troops from the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, and were greeted with boos and catcalls outside Lime Street Station by thousands of strikers congregated on St. George’s plateau.19 The Lord Mayor asked for additional Police and troops in a telegram to Home Secretary Winston Churchill, and within days extra Police had arrived from Lancashire and Bradford. In addition to the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, extra troops from the Scots Greys, Hussars and The Yorkshire Regiment arrived in the city and were stationed at Seaforth barracks or billeted at Sefton Park.20 In total, an extra 2,400 police and 5,000 troops were in the city.21
 

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1791 on: May 6, 2013, 11:34:43 am »
There he is again Winnie eh - turning out the troops against striking workers. Did a fair bit of that did Churchill - and he STILL got a special funeral. Bleedin' hell.
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« Reply #1792 on: May 6, 2013, 12:03:54 pm »
I don't know what the story is about these 1911 strike 'refugees', but it seems like a lot of people decided to go on one of those 'holiday excursions'.
Incidentally, they're waiting against the same wall that can be seen in the Gloucester Street shot further up this page.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1793 on: May 6, 2013, 12:19:57 pm »
Incidentally, they're waiting against the same wall that can be seen in the Gloucester Street shot further up this page.

That's a good one.
Don't know if Keith will be able to do a before and after on it though (there's a challenge.... ;))
It looks like what's left of that wall behind them is in the middle about here on streetview above the staircase behind the silver bollards.
(There's a bit here pointing out where the street sign once was.)

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« Reply #1794 on: May 7, 2013, 11:48:11 am »
There he is again Winnie eh - turning out the troops against striking workers.

The navy too - and using our river to do it!

There's enough evidence here for a 'then & now', but hardly worth it.

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« Reply #1795 on: May 7, 2013, 12:31:06 pm »
They upped the ante in the '26 General Strike (that man Churchill was Chancellor at the time) and sent the Battleships HMS Ramillies and HMS Barham to the Mersey, ostensibly to land food supplies but to then lurk. Can't find any photo's of the event but it's well documented.




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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1796 on: May 7, 2013, 01:50:48 pm »
Remember reading in Matt Busby's life story that Matt as a 17 year old came out with the Belleshill colliery miners in the general strike as did his grandad alongside him.

Matt's father - also a miner at that colliery before the first war - would have been there too, except like so many fathers who came up the pit to go and fight in Flanders, he never came back.

Matt's grandad organised a boycott of that Scots favourite Harry Lauder's concert appearances throughout Scotland because Lauder had accused the miners of being guilty of a kind of treason. So an old Tory sycophant through and through was the "Keep right onto the end of the Roader". 
No doubt Scottish miners long remembered the kilted old sod fondly after that eh?
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1797 on: May 15, 2013, 03:30:02 pm »
Tsar, I'd like to say I've found the answer but having exhausted search combinations involving Garston, Speke, Factory etc, it's got me well and truly stumped.

The film is a telephoto shot so the depth of field is very compressed, so I think that complex is actually quite some distance beyond and behind the white Bank at the junction at the end.
If you follow the line of view down St Mary's in the film (screen capture below) on satellite view I'm guessing it's probably where  that overgrown green patch right in the middle is now, to the right of the old Gas Works. I don't think it's any further away as I think that would put it a bit too close to old Speke aerodrome as it was back then and that thing looks pretty high. Annoyingly, there appears to be some lettering on the side of the building in the film but the resolution is just too low to identify it.

What I did find seriously depressing was the difference in St Mary's back then to how it is now. What was once a bustling road seems to be now just a run down procession of boarded up windows interspersed with the obligatory booze shops, tanning salons and bookies and it's not even as if that's a really old film. Terrible.

Bloody hell, it appears I actually managed to get an image to load!!

Gulley, I've spent a bit of time on your Garston mystery, and I've come to the conclusion that the video has been doctored in some way.

Have a look at the pic below - its a Google maps screen grab of Garston. The dotted line is my best guess at the line of sight in that picture.

As far as i can see, there are only 2 possible sites for that humungous building:

1. The land between Speke Road [new bypass] and Speke Road [original route] i.e. where Woolton carpets is now, right behind the old bank, or
2. On the grassed area over the other side of the railway.

I discounted [1], because I've spoken to a couple of people who lived in Garston for many years [i.e. WW2 until the 90s], and no-one remembers a building like that on that location. they do remember various factories/works there, but nothing anything like the size of the building in the photo. I cant believe that something that big, right in the middle of Garston would be completely forgotten.
I discounted [2] because even accounting for the foreshortening effect of the lens, if that building is in location 2, then it's a good couple of hundred yards behind the old bank, and so would be a couple of hundred feet high to show up like that from St Mary's Road. Again, that means its absolutely huge, and surely someone would remember?

Couple of other things that make me a bit suspicious;
1. If you zoom in on the image, the building seems to "pop" from the rest of the picture. I'm no photograpic expert at all, but that part of the image just doesnt look right.
2. I have a 1964 copy of Kelly's [Gores] Directory, and there's nothing listed on St mary's rd or Speke Rd that would account for a building like that.
3. If you look at location 2, you can see the remnants of some old building foundations near the car park on the bottom left. I reckon that's the old Gasworks building, and the building on your image doesnt look like a gasworks to me [or like the many images available on the web of the old Garston gasworks buildings].
4. You cant really extend my dotted line any further, because you end up on Bryant and May land, and apart from the fact that theres no way that building was part of B&M, theres also no way it could be that far away anyway, because then it would have to be about 500ft tall to be spotted from St Marys road like that.

There were a couple of buildings in Garston docks that might have looked like the one shown -the old Ffyfes banana building had long chutes on it, and was very large, and the old salt silos were similar too. Problem is that as far as I can tell, both of these were way over to the right of the building shown, near the railhead on the docks.

I really enjoyed researching this, as I was actually married in St Michaels church [bottom left of my picture below] and lived in Garston for a year when we first got married.

I'll keep having a mooch to see if I turn anything else up on the subject.

Oh, and you're quite right about the state of St Mary's Road now. That bypass killed Garston-real shame.

« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 04:02:39 pm by Only Me »

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1798 on: May 16, 2013, 10:58:39 pm »
.....and I've come to the conclusion that the video has been doctored in some way.

No, as here's a shot showing the 'monstrous thing' taken back in '52 from here



From this picture, I'm beginning to wonder if it was perhaps the actual Coal Gas generation part of the gasworks although from memory, it looks nothing like the old Linacre Gasworks that I remember from back then which was all exposed pipes and strange retorts and belching chimneys and very strong sulpur smells. I suppose like that place,  if this is the Garston works, it would have all been swept away in the early 70's once North Sea Gas came on stream leaving only the Gasometers remaining on the site.

Not really part of this thread, but here's an interesting use for an old Coalgas works in the US... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_Works_Park.

Can't see anything like that ever happening here with our often overzealous concerns with H&S.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1799 on: May 16, 2013, 10:59:21 pm »
That's a good one.
Don't know if Keith will be able to do a before and after on it though (there's a challenge.... ;))
It looks like what's left of that wall behind them is in the middle about here on streetview above the staircase behind the silver bollards.
(There's a bit here pointing out where the street sign once was.)

I will be having a go at that! Cheers Gulleysucker!

Alreet all, been on a sabbatical after a mishap while out doing my then and nows.

30-odd added this week in the usual gaffs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithjones84/sets/72157632063149974/
https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolThenAndNow

Here's a couple with a musical bent.


Mathew Street, 1970s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Victoria Monument, 1963 and 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr